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Didi
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 486 |
Release id #147008 : Ring on a String +
Quoting User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 4 April 2016
Didi: Problem with your argument with Monster Buster is that Onslaught won that race with this equally untrained release (they were first on the majority of boards): Monster Buster - then they uploaded a new trained version later on.
Well, from my memory the trained version of Monster Buster was uploaded to the boards as well to prevent anyone to grab the points through the quality rule (a fact which is not documented by any post), and secure the firstie.
With the argument of being uploaded to the majority of boards you could have got any of our this years RGCD releases, because The Hidden was offline that night. Just wait until it is back and upload to all 3 and get away with it. That's why it is not the way I handle it. Majority is being first on 2 of 3 within 24h. And who was first can be seen in the directory listing on the board.
Well, for me it's the quality rule which fits this release and justifies giving the points to Excess here. Different mag editors have always had different ways to handle releases. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680 |
GG was also awarding "best" release to ones that had a bunch of stuff ripped out of them. But that's another argument.
On the serious side, if this *must* be taken seriously these days.
My opinion here is that more than just linking an intro to something should be considered a release at all. Not necessarily a trainer either, but put some effort into the release ffs. Any knob can download a PD release, intro link and upload to a board.
I have this opinion because with 99% of stuff these days there is *no cracking involved*. It should require more effort than this really. I understand the race completely, perhaps the rules should once again be revised for the modern times, even if only a handful of people care about it anymore. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357 |
Quote:Release under Hitmen and you are welcome to join
so the name of the group is now relevant?
you guys are so cute <3 |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 349 |
Quote: Quote:Release under Hitmen and you are welcome to join
so the name of the group is now relevant?
you guys are so cute <3
I think he means the "intention" of a group ... which is not less cute somehow! :D |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357 |
the intention is to have fun, obviously. and "banning" a group because of its name is just as silly as ignoring a release because you dont like the spelling of someones handle. |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 349 |
full ack! |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4723 |
If the group in question, be it Shitmen, Dinosaurs or whatnot, tries to ruin the tradition and just make fun of the cracking scene, or mock it, we can of course see it as fake shit. Having fun can be more than just making fun of something. I am fully aware that most people think the cracking scene on C64 of today is completely meaningless, thus a nice victim to mock or make fun of. When it comes to fake groups it's a combination - play retarded which can be quite fun, but also trying to ruin stuff for the few people that tries to uphold some kind of serious cracking scene. It's quite easy to identify. And has nothing to do with the name of a group. If Really Proud Lamers or Bad Taste do release a serious release it will be counted (but that is of course against their principles ad purpose, I guess). |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357 |
lol@serious release |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 349 |
@ hedning:
I respect your clarification at all. Maybe i am not as long in this scene to have the right to "judge" about cracking, but for me at least it's always fun to have a spectrum of different views and opinions.
Almost every discipline is an art for itself.
We are all different and we have all different "fun-factors".
I think it's hard to decide what is individual fun. |
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Fix
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 54 |
Then everyone agrees that an "untouched" original with just an intro can have the first points?
My 5 cents would be that it should be a "proper" crack, what that now would be... Should be qualified for first release points.
Maybe a good time now is to find a good solution that active groups can agree upon? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357 |
i like how simply releasing better releases than those evil "fake" groups (and making them irrelevant for the charts that way) is not an option :) if those "fake" releases ruin it for you it means only one thing: your releases suck. |
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