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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 519 |
Event id #2643 : Plain PETSCII Graphics Competition 2017
question for the organizers:
in wild petscii compo you say it's allowed to use ECM. but with ECM only the first 64 chars are useable, so basically only letters and numbers. that sux.
so is it possible to pick up any chars you like from the CBM font and copy them into a new charset in the first 64 positions? or that's against all the rules on Earth? |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2968 |
A wild PETSCII appeared! |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942 |
Quote: Imho Smasher's logo is as pure as hires PETSCII using nonzero $d021 and should be treated equally with the rest, being inside the compo. Moreover it's great proof of concept and looks cool. What's the big difference between modifying $d021, $d022 and $d023? Charset is unchanged ;)
Plain PETSCII in ECM mode should get teh same treatment. Let's positively discriminate all modes, then. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335 |
Quoting TheRykModfying background does not change look of characters/tiles.
Switching to MC does not modify charset, only reads it different - looks shouldn't matter at all. Imho not quite an argument ;) |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: Quoting TheRykModfying background does not change look of characters/tiles.
Switching to MC does not modify charset, only reads it different - looks shouldn't matter at all. Imho not quite an argument ;)
Like PETSCII-fli? |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2968 |
Quoting JackAsserLike PETSCII-fli? Brings to mind the original PET-FLI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktUguF1TnJk - almost indistinguishable from actual bitmap graphics. Almost. :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
thats a nice trick to achieve bitmap on pet :) |
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Marvin
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 8 |
Quote: Like PETSCII-fli?
I've actually been working on a PETSCFLII for a couple of days now... (:
It's a fun format with all the drawbacks of PETSCII and FLI combined. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2218 |
Quote: Plain PETSCII in ECM mode should get teh same treatment. Let's positively discriminate all modes, then.
quoting ze rules
Quote:
a) Plain PETSCII (= main competition C64 Graphics)
"Plain" in my definition means an executable .PRG file displaying 1000 bytes screen RAM using CBM Character-ROM font and 1000
nibbles color RAM, nothing else, no ECM, no sprites, no interlace effects, no splits, no animation, no scrolling, no open borders,
no hankypanky of any sort. ...
b) WILD PETSCII (= side competition C64 Wild):
Anthing using the C64 Character ROM (<- only rule here) that violates any of the rules above,
so you can use border effects, sprites, ECM, do an animation of several frames, scrolling... or whatever you like :)
ECM's explicitly in WiLD, to me it does not make sense to treat MC differently, it's sort of hankypanky, so it's WiLD ;) |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335 |
So rules should explicitly exclude $d020/$d021 as well because it violates file scheme ;) |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2218 |
maybe they should, but they do quite the opposite :P
Quote:Background and screen color ($d020/$d021) can be picked by competitors, black is beautiful, though
So black is recommended, nothing more, nothing less.
No one said it's a BBS gfx compo.
However, we've had great art picking other values, e.g. $0C, for $d021 last time.
Perhaps we should have another philosophical debate before there's any 20?? compo. ;)
I see your points and read any sort of suggestion/criticism with interest, but this time, I feel it's better to defend the rules as they were set for the remaining 48+something hours. |
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