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2008-01-04 23:56

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

Group id #1754 : Triton Technology

So, j0x made the next comment regarding Real D.Y.S.P.:

"I'd say this wasn't released in 1987, but in (early) 1988. It was apparently made as a response to Triangle's d.y.s.p. demo (PhotonDYSP, released in December 1987), mentioning that Dosman had made Triton's d.y.s.p. "back in november 1987" and the scroll ends with "jokes are all (c) by the triton headquaters 1988!!"

At first my gut feeling told me he was wrong, but then I did some digging, and now I'm not so sure anymore.

First of all, the year that Triton T. was dissolved is set to 1987. I might even have done this myself, based on the fact that I really believed The Funeral, their last demo, to be from that year. However, checking the scrolltexts of that demo mentions a (c) 1988 ex-Triton T. Also, there are at least 2 other demos from 1988 (High Tech and Cosmic Copyparty).

So, although Dwangi mentions in the trivia that "Most of the members of Triton Technology formed Upfront in late 1987.", I now think that yes, 1988 is the year this group stopped their activities. And Real D.Y.S.P. was probably released that year as well, just like j0x stated.

But what really puzzled me is the "Most of the members" part of Dwangi's statement. The memberlists shows only 2 people being in both groups (Ray and Zoro). Does this mean that some people changed their handles? Or was Dwangi off again?

To me this group was one of the great from those days, so I hope somebody here can shine more light on this matter. I'll start by setting the dissolved day to 1988.

One more thing: I also noticed that somebody reset the release type of The Funeral to music collection. Ofcourse I have no idea who this is but please people, just because a part has several tunes in it that can be selected by pressing various keys, doesn't mean it's a music collection! Such parts were very common back then, mainly because most music was taken from games.

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2008-01-07 16:06

j0x

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215

No, I realize that Johannes was from Grenå. I just meant that area, that part of Denmark. .. you were in contact back then, right?

Also note, that some of Henrik's tunes are in MUSICIANS/J/Jensen_Henrik/ and some are in MUSICIANS/N/Nike/ . The latter are erroneously credited to Nike. In fact, only one tune can be credited to him (Marchmeeting (part 11)), the rest being Henrik's. At least they're written in Henrik's routine.

I've found about three tunes by Henrik which aren't in HVSC.

2008-01-07 16:38

Nike/Triton T
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Registered: Jan 2008
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Thanks for the welcome, guys.

cba: I don't know much about the unreleased demo, as I was always more interested in trading games than in demomaking. However I have forwarded your questions to Lars (Groucho)

The Dark Judge: Earlier today I asked Claus about it, he says he doesn't think he was ever a member of Upfront on the Amiga.

DRAX: I had many tunes lying around which was never really finished, however as for the completed songs, I think everything was released. Not sure though. Yes, on occassion I still make music today. I'm using all original software, which has cost me a small fortune :-) The stuff I did most recent was a mock-up of the beginning of Brahms 1st Symphony - you can find it here:

http://www.garageband.com/artist?|pe1|WszTMELdsaSkZFG3YWA

(pick the version that has 011107 in the name)

j0x: Yes, Johannes and I were in contact back then. We made an agreement that I could use his music routine as long as I paid him 25% of what I earned with it. However I only made the music for two games, Unitrax and KGB Agent. Johannes got 25% of what I made on Unitrax, but for KGB Agent, Henning had written a new and superior music routine for me, which I used from then on (it took much less raster time than Johannes' routine)

Best regards,
Henrik

2008-01-07 16:45

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

Henrik, I didn't mean Upfront amiga, it's only Upfront c64 I care about ;) But I guess those two groups had the exact same memberstatus or something?

2008-01-07 16:51

j0x

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215

Nike: Very interesting info on the music routine, thanks.

2008-01-07 19:10

SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238

Quote: No, I realize that Johannes was from Grenå. I just meant that area, that part of Denmark. .. you were in contact back then, right?

Also note, that some of Henrik's tunes are in MUSICIANS/J/Jensen_Henrik/ and some are in MUSICIANS/N/Nike/ . The latter are erroneously credited to Nike. In fact, only one tune can be credited to him (Marchmeeting (part 11)), the rest being Henrik's. At least they're written in Henrik's routine.

I've found about three tunes by Henrik which aren't in HVSC.

So where's the creditfix mail ?

i just got a strange move of that one tune to demos/ from ramos, and NO explanation. i cant know that those tunes are really by henrik..

tsk tsk

2008-01-07 19:25

cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935

Quote: Thanks for the welcome, guys.

cba: I don't know much about the unreleased demo, as I was always more interested in trading games than in demomaking. However I have forwarded your questions to Lars (Groucho)

The Dark Judge: Earlier today I asked Claus about it, he says he doesn't think he was ever a member of Upfront on the Amiga.

DRAX: I had many tunes lying around which was never really finished, however as for the completed songs, I think everything was released. Not sure though. Yes, on occassion I still make music today. I'm using all original software, which has cost me a small fortune :-) The stuff I did most recent was a mock-up of the beginning of Brahms 1st Symphony - you can find it here:

http://www.garageband.com/artist?|pe1|WszTMELdsaSkZFG3YWA

(pick the version that has 011107 in the name)

j0x: Yes, Johannes and I were in contact back then. We made an agreement that I could use his music routine as long as I paid him 25% of what I earned with it. However I only made the music for two games, Unitrax and KGB Agent. Johannes got 25% of what I made on Unitrax, but for KGB Agent, Henning had written a new and superior music routine for me, which I used from then on (it took much less raster time than Johannes' routine)

Best regards,
Henrik

Thanks , hopefully he can tell us more about those 2 demos.

2008-01-07 19:31

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

Niels, can you fix the entries of Henrik, Claus & Hennig here?

2008-01-07 19:34

cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935

Quote: Niels, can you fix the entries of Henrik, Claus & Hennig here?

No, only Perff can merge entries...

I've merged by hand , Groucho with QRT.

2008-01-08 15:37

pulped
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Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 2

Hi folks, Henrik pointed me at this fun little trip down memory lane.

I've updated some of my pages with what little I can remember...

As for the missing demos, I don't think I ever had them. Henning might still do, I'm sure Henrik already asked.

At the end of our c64 career, we had tremendous production difficulties, primarily because we really really stressed the little beige fucker. Typically, Henning would've come up with some new technique on his c64, and we'd throw some music+graphics+(last second) text at it, only to discover that it basically only ran on Hennings c64, abusing some timings of his specific model.

I'm not even sure it was all due to the different production models of the c64, but maybe even down to the humidity at the plant or whatever. It was obscene the problems we had at parties where we had to make a finished demo that actually ran on some c64 we weren't allowed to use before the demonstration. That's at least some part of the story behind the two missing demos (plus possibly the lack of incentive to finish them after they hadn't won :-) )

As for why Triton "changed name" to Upfront. Around the time, the antipiracy folks in Denmark were getting pretty damn efficient, and we were happily cracking, trading AND leading a semi-public life in Triton. Clearly not the smartest. So we moved the demo stuff into a new group, chose fresh handles, and stole the name from a new local radio station (I'm sorry to say).

As for the cracking stuff, we didn't actually stop. We created a second group, Secret Society, using Claus' "gift" for alliterations (like Starlight Strikers and Triton Technology before it). I don't think we were active with SS for much more than a year or so, having one or two firsts in that time - getting the originals became a burden... I can see that the list attached to SS is certainly not complete (having difficulty recognizing the two games, so it may even be another SS), but I don't have access to any of my old floppies here.

2008-01-09 06:44

DRAX

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225

Damn, it is cool to see some of the old danish elite here. Pupled are you in contact with any of the old Bones guys?

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