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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5095 |
Why people listen to "classic" SIDs more ?
Vincenzo wrote:
Looks like there's no active musicians on the C64 since the early 2000's :) No offense, everyone has a different taste for music and can make a selection based on personal preference.
I don't expect answers and I don't want to start a war obviously, I'm just saying there's so much more in the "newest era" (which is already 20 years since 2000') of SID music than the old classics. Aren't you guys bored to listen to the same tunes over and over?
To be fair, this is a nice and diverse selection of tracks, I just wouldn't prefer a couple of them in my own playlist because of the above mentioned reason. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11391 |
For me its different, i enjoy those modern tunes much more these days. And a lot of the "classics" i cant stand anymore. But i don't listen to either much, outside of compos or party context. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2263 |
Maybe the 80s classic are just like "dad rock" from the perspective of people who are too young to know them from 80s. Anyway, 80s pop music as well as 80s .SID music will always be my gate to another dimension or a time travel to my youth. I'm never gonna be bored by them. If that's nostalgia, then I'm guilty as charged. However, anyone who knows anything about music and 8bit must admit, there's plenty masterpieces that date from that golden era, actually no wonder, because that was the time when millions of people had a C=64 at their home.
But I'm aware that there's much more out there. To me, worshipping the classics and enjoying 90s and younger stuff and of course keeping up to date with present compositions does not mean any contradiction. And I guess(!) Vincenzo's assumption (C64 sceners ignore/disregard current SID music in favour of listening to 80s classics all the time) really doesn't fit for a meaningully big part of the scene HERE on CSDb. Might be different when you go to mere user forums. |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 454 |
We remember the music we learned when we were young and growing up. Old dog does not learn new SIDS. |
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Boogaloo
Registered: Aug 2019
Posts: 24 |
I guess I might have the "dad rock" syndrome, but I also enjoy the newer SIDs a lot. Mostly because they are so much more polished and they have a "tighter" sound, because they are mostly created for the 8580.
I have another, but similar pet peeve: I am quite annoyed that most SID nostalgia seems to revolve around game music, while there is so much better demo music out there. :-)
I assume that the the game music affection mostly come from people outside the demo scene, of course. Nevertheless, I get so bored every time I see some Youtube video with "Top 25 C64 tunes" and they are all game tunes. :-) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1105 |
There is one classic sid I play every once in a while: Jammin' Loose :) (Hi Boogaloo!) |
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Mibri
Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 214 |
There are definitely plenty of SID tunes from the old days that are engaging musically, as Ryker says, though I'll admit that for the most part I find the old stuff interesting from a historical point of view, thinking about how and why the tunes were made rather than getting real gratification from listening to them.
I don't think this is a zero-sum situation, anyway. I'm quite sure there are plenty of SID fans who have awareness of and enthusiasm for both the old school and the contemporary - the popularity of Max Hall's monthly Chip SID Show, which mixes the old and the new, should be ample proof of that. |
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Boogaloo
Registered: Aug 2019
Posts: 24 |
Quoting BurglarThere is one classic sid I play every once in a while: Jammin' Loose :) (Hi Boogaloo!)
A very good choice indeed! :-D <3 |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5095 |
Jammin' Loose
ooh, I love this one too, lets give it a spin :)
edit: btw I have found Jammin' Loose in HVSC around 2000's and still picked it up, so to contradict myself, I often feel like those "classic" sids have more depth to them, its a whole story usually, beginning, middle, climatic part, and closing.
one example: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/O/Ouwehand_Reyn/D.. |
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Ziaxx
Registered: Oct 2020
Posts: 18 |
For me it's pure nostalgia. I was active in the scene in the late 80s (and early 90s on the Amiga) and I only listen to SID music from that era. The new ones might be technically better but give me no emotional feelings. I prefer old school demos for the same reason, even though some modern demos do amaze me. |
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Matt
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 598 |
I listen very often to .sid music. I listen more to scene musicians than to games musicians. When I think about classic .sid musicians JCH, Mixer, Antti Hannula, Laxity come to mind.
Ask a c64 gamer and they'll tell you the opposite. With a bit of luck they might know who JCH or Laxity is, but usually their knowledge stops with Galway, Hubbard, Daglish, Gray, just to name a few.
I absolutely adore the newschool .sid musicians. There are so many gifted and talented composers out there, (too many to mention) that it feels like a privilege to discover new .sids on almost a daily basis. Loving it!
All that said, I don't mind a classic .sid composition every now and then too! |
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