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Knight Rider
Registered: Mar 2005 Posts: 131 |
Event id #3294 : X-2024
I was having a discussion with a few guys over beers in X'2023 and the compos. I was telling about my days as OR8 pilot in the RC world where we had junior, hobby and pro categories for the races.
To make it abit more motivational the people/groups who aren't 20 members strong each with 30+ years of demo coding experience it might be worth while considering other options ?
eg. some of the ideas we discussed:
. Having a pro (ie previous winner category) and hobby section so that contributors are compared to peers of similar experience
. Splitting the voting/ranking for 1 filers from multi disk entries
. Newcomer award for those individuals or teams who never submitted to X before |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007 Posts: 625 |
Why does anyone want to change anything? Weird IMO… X compo is perfect as is.
Annual is too much for many of us, sure.. and the timing complicates it for many too. Maybe 2025 could shift back to Autumn?
In terms of how many demos could be released etc… work harder, faster, sheeple :p .. or just release every 2, or 3, or 5 years? Nobody said you have to release at every X.
Also.: re: the big leagues, little leagues, etc.. why? I want to fight with the big groups. Who dictates the league anyway? If it’s “the people”, that’s not fair.. if it’s the group themselves.. what’s to stop Booze deciding they want to fight in the little league?
I would just leave things alone… if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. |
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Boogaloo
Registered: Aug 2019 Posts: 24 |
Quote: Are you aware what you are asking for? This would mean, some people should hold back on their fun creating content, gfx, code, music. That people contribute to more than one project lies in their high activity. Who are you to limit others fun? :-D Fun is the only thing that drives me in the process of creating a demo and the luck of having quite some sparetime to spend into doing demos. I might think of holding back if you spend and pay me some travel and holidays :-P
I was just interpreting Wile's suggestion. I agree with you. :-) |
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Wile Coyote Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004 Posts: 646 |
@Boogaloo You got it. Spot on!
It would put an end to either a coder, musician, graphician, designer etc appearing in (being credited for) more than one demo in any one ‘Demo’ compo.
@dyme The restrictions would apply across the board to old and new groups :) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 2940 |
Quoting Wile CoyoteIt would put an end to either a coder, musician, graphician, designer etc appearing in (being credited for) more than one demo in any one ‘Demo’ compo. And why is that a problem. Seriously. |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004 Posts: 675 |
And no one should be above 1.70m tall, I suggest.
Not trying to ridicule an ongoing discussion but I find it indeed quite weird to tell people what (not) to do in their free time.
Plus: this X was (again) super amazing. Why change it or anything about it? |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004 Posts: 1069 |
Funny thread this, people trying to change the rules so they can win. Not by merit, but by adding restrictions for our best coders, graphicians and musicians. The answer is no :)
Collaboration is key in the demo-scene, something that should be encouraged and cherished.
What many of you are forgetting is that this was the first X after 5 years, it's only logical that so many sceners and groups went all-out, resulting in the biggest and best X compo ever. Yes it was overwhelming, yes beating any of the top 10 will be impossible for most, yes, this was X :)
Since we are throwing another one in less than a year, all of the suggested restrictions are irrelevant: there simply is not enough time for any group to deliver the same huge size and quality of demos.
Quoting Groepaz... i think that annual party actually makes the compos more "approachable" again. ... this :)
It doesn't mean we may do some small changes to the setup, but we need time to relax and evaluate. I still haven't fully recovered :) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 2940 |
Quoting BurglarSince we are throwing another one in less than a year, all of the suggested restrictions are irrelevant: there simply is not enough time for any group to deliver the same huge size and quality of demos. As was mentioned above, it's possible when skipping an X (or two). A few big players haven't participated this year... =) |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007 Posts: 625 |
Quote: Quoting Wile CoyoteIt would put an end to either a coder, musician, graphician, designer etc appearing in (being credited for) more than one demo in any one ‘Demo’ compo. And why is that a problem. Seriously.
IRQ loaders are one problem. How many used Bitbreaker loader this time? Quite a few I believe..? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 11293 |
Quote:As was mentioned above, it's possible when skipping an X (or two). A few big players haven't participated this year... =)
So the obvious thing is to make participation mandatory. OR ELSE! |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 2940 |
Quoting RaistlinIRQ loaders are one problem. How many used Bitbreaker loader this time? Quite a few I believe..? So? What's your point? Why is this a problem? :) |
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