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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
What is Onefile Demo, what is Graphics...
I recently started to go through a lot of art on here to put on my SD card for enjoyment on real hardware purposes.
Then I came across Industrial Dawn which is just a picture with music. I don't see anything else going on. (That said, it is really nice, both music and pic).
It is entered as One-File Demo, while a lot of pictures with music (could link a whole bunch by Mermaid for example, but also loads others), which are just entered as Graphics.
I guess there is no super easy way to draw a line here. Any thoughts?
IMO, demo would include at least some kind of effect, or a scroller maybe. But then people had a discussion about this when I released my Headache pic in the gfx compo at X'10. |
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Carrion
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317 |
at first my thought was - I'm OK with it too, but then I checked X16 combo entries.
and here it gets interesting...
If only native gfx modes are allowed the results of composition would be:
1. duce - disqualified (sprites)
2. ptoing - disualified (asslace)
3. mermaid - disualified (border sprites)
4. electrin - in
5. yazoo - in
6. leon - out (lace)
7. jok - out (sprites)
8. Aomeba -in
9. Sphnx - in
10. DeeKay - out (NUFLI)
11. booker/wacek - out (NUFLI)
12. lzwerch - uknnown
13. Zillii - in
14. Pal - out (sprites)
15. redback - in
16. Ohli - out
17. grip - in
and I think first 3 (but also others too) are really good images and I feel blessed to see them. with rules discussed above we could probable never see them. or?
I think I'm even more convinced now. everything runnable is OK. but allow to #tag in CSDB. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357 |
that logic is flawed. for example there are/were quite some parties/compos who dont allow usage of samples in music compos. did that stop people from doing great sample tunes? clearly not. |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
Of course you would have seen them, at least mine. I do not need compos to release images, so pretty much what Groepaz said. |
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Carrion
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317 |
not convinced here...
the best pictures in last 12 months were released at compos. we dont do these kool pics for demos where we are restricted by coders/rastertime/loadtime etc
we do these pics for competitions. denying it makes you ignorant.
ofcoz I have nothing against pure multicolor/hires/char compos at parties, as Hein suggested.
introduce it slowly to the audience (as JB suggested with tags) or making it another ranking in parallel with normal gfx compo. |
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Carrion
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317 |
@ptoing.
wrong
you will release them but it's not 100% sure I'll see them. I'm not following all releases at CSDB any more.
But I come here when some important party took place and I want to check who released what, who won, who used new interesting technique... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11357 |
lol |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
I personally make C64 stuff because I like it, and one reason I like it is the different modes that are possible.
If I would do pixelart only because I want to win compos I would do way way less stuff.
If you can't be bothered to do a simple search for latest gfx releases that's on you :P |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 945 |
Quote: not convinced here...
the best pictures in last 12 months were released at compos. we dont do these kool pics for demos where we are restricted by coders/rastertime/loadtime etc
we do these pics for competitions. denying it makes you ignorant.
ofcoz I have nothing against pure multicolor/hires/char compos at parties, as Hein suggested.
introduce it slowly to the audience (as JB suggested with tags) or making it another ranking in parallel with normal gfx compo.
I suggested what? :) I just walked in, minding my own business. |
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Han
Registered: Apr 2017
Posts: 8 |
Quoting lftBut CSDb is an attempt to document what goes on at demoparties. It's not the other way around. We can't ask compo organisers to do things differently just because it would fit the current database scheme better.
You're right, I just got carried away thinking about that whole subject :)
So to the original question (..put on my SD card for enjoyment on real hardware purposes): for an own collection I wouldn't bother if the release was meant to be a One-filer or whatever. If you like it only for the pictures then put it in the 'graphics' folder.
Here on CSDB there should of course be stated in which category a production was handed in at a demo party.
@all: please note that I did not suggest allowing only static native modes. I wrote 'pure data in a well documented format'. That could also be one that allows border sprites or whatever. The important point is that no coder should be involved.
Apart from this, an own 'Native Mode' compo might make sense, since the technical possibilities of new and native modes differ so vastly. (An 'Oldschool-compo' at a C64-Party.. Sounds weird ;) ) |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
C64-Oldschool and C64-Newschool, lol. |
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