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2016-02-16 20:07
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1088
X2016 Competitions: Your Input Wanted!

The 28th of october is still far away but getting closer and closer. The organizers have been getting busy and are now well underway to get everything sorted out for another smashing X!

Since entry delivery and running the compos at X14 went quite smooth and voting is now done in realtime, we believe we may have room for 1 or 2 more (small/fun) c64 competitions. Like a PETSCII compo or a 4k compo, or maybe you guys have an idea?
Or perhaps you think the straightforward demo/music/gfx compos are enough.

Let us know :)
 
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2016-02-20 17:01
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359
yes! finally a good idea in this thread :)
2016-02-20 21:50
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 427
@soci – you've pretty much described my point =)

Prerecording kills the Ghost in the Machine ;-)
The fear of your live running demo failing when beamed is a part of the thrill, isn't it? Why ruin it?

What if there was a surprise hidden part that required user interaction during the live show? How lame if that was also pre-recorded?
2016-02-20 21:56
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 519
if democompo will use recorded videos instead of the real thing I cancel my trip to NL.
2016-02-20 22:02
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680
pre-recording your demos is *the* stupidest idea I've ever heard for a c64 demo party. May as well stay at home and have a conference too.
2016-02-20 22:21
Brush

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 22
Avoidng labeling things as stupid etc. : our scene is the anti-thesis of "professional". The whole point of it is to ride the old hardware to the max. Which means that as in all extreme sports - there will be failures, casualties and the engine will not work in the worst moment. That's the beauty of the compo. My own demo in '92 hanged because the organizers played it on c128 and i've used old time cruncher in one place that forgot to clear the 2mhz flag. And THAT was the part of the party feeling. That was the adrenaline. If we go down the recording path. It'll be smooth. It'll be professional. It will be sterile.
If i want sterile - i don't fire up c64. Your mileage may vary.
2016-02-20 22:22
Conjuror

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 168
Quote:
Groepaz: wildcompo without compo recording.... yeah. schedule another day for that then :o)

How did this even get interpreted as a serious suggestion? Should be taken as seriously as changing the compos in anyway what so ever.
2016-02-20 22:49
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
Sometimes I don't get you, guys ;) Topic was about optional compos to be added to classic X'2016 menu. Somebody mentioned 2SID and it produced most probable issues with absolutely most obvious one being permutation of different compo machines to deal with in runtime. Actually it was never a huge problem at other parties featuring 2SID but fuck it. One of most obvious and logical solutions is just prerecorded stuff - it reduces multitude of cables, multiplexers, routers and whatever stuff is used to swap signal. Moreover it allows to reduce compotime which seems crucial due to amount of entries and usual demo compo hour. And suddenly whole thickheaded bunch cries how it kills spirit of christmas. So I guess it's best to fuck all additional compos and go as usual. No 2SIDs and any fancy faggotry. So why to put any idea here at all? ;) I'd really love more logical objections to the above instead of crying over kid's years when grass was greener and demos were crashing :P
2016-02-20 22:53
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 519
most crashing demo compo?
2016-02-20 22:57
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359
just for the records: i am very much against recording C64 demos at X. show them live and let them crash. AND FUCKING DONT SHOW THEM AGAIN IF SO.
and please use a proper 1541 for the damned compo too. not some half working emulator.
2016-02-20 22:57
Brush

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 22
Jammer,

I think you don't fully get what i was trying to say: demo compo is a LIVE event. There is a place for competition of videos: on youtube ppl are posting crazy videos all the time. and there is a place for LIVE compo.
Being a musican you for sure differentiate between live concert and studio recording.
That's exactly the same difference.
And that's why ppl dislike "playback" usage durince live concert.
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