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2018-11-05 09:38
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 478
Event id #2757 : Intro Creation Competition 2018

Preface: Please use this thread for questions, discussion and everything else concerning this competition.


After ChristopherJam had the chance to run a similar compo last year, this year I am back with the known ruleset, with only slight change.

Runnning the competition after X party turned out to be a great timeframe, so I stay there.

Competition runs from November 5th, 2018, until January 6th, 2019. So you have a full 2 months to deliver your creations. This should be enough for an intro.

THE RULES:
Your intro...
- has to work on a plain stock C64 (PAL standard) without any extensions.
- has to be a one-part intro. Short fade-ins and fade-outs are OK.
- has to contain at least one Logo at whatever size you like.
- has to contain a changing or moving text message (e.g. scrolling text, different lines fading in & out, etc.)
- has to contain music (not just a humming sound, please).
- has a maximum RAM footprint of $4000 bytes at one block, at whatever location you like. Screen RAM counts as used memory. Exclusions are system addresses like VIC (inkl. Color RAM), SID, CIA, Stack, Zero-page, IRQ vectors. This means RAM besides chosen $4000 bytes area and exceptions has to be the same before and after running the intro. What happens during runtime is up to you.
- has to be interruptable any time by pressing SPACE-key (exception are short fade-in and fade-out).
- does not need to have exclusive graphics, charsets or music. But the code should be exclusive, so reuse of existing code with just exchanged graphics and music is not allowed.
- has not been publicly used before entering the competition.
- has to be handed in as executable format startable with RUN (.prg or embedded in .t64 or .d64).

Maximum 3 entries per participant. Entries might be taken back from the compo until deadline. That means if you want to remove one of your works from the compo to make space for another entry from you, this can be done until deadline.
Deadline for entry submission is Sunday January 6th, 2019 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm) CET.
Voting closes at Sunday January 13th, 2019 at 23:59:59 (11:59:59 pm) CET.
Voting platform is CSDb (with all disadvantages it may have), therefore entries have to be posted here.
Entries will be ranked by weighted average of CSDb votes. Entries with the same weighted average are ranked by their percentages of 10s, 9s, etc.

No prices to win, just the fame. May the best creation win!
 
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2018-11-07 09:37
Golara
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Registered: Jan 2018
Posts: 212
another question.
You say any continuous $4000 memory is ok
but if we need the basic upstart then we're limited to the memory around $801 right ? or can you put the basic line somewhere else ? I tried didn't work. I started coding my intro with 4000-7fff in mind.
2018-11-07 10:10
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3128
You can (and have to) obviously crunch memory 4000-7fff, the memory usage after decrunch is what matters. The crunched prg is at $0801 because it has to be RUNed normally.
2018-11-07 11:07
Golara
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Quote: You can (and have to) obviously crunch memory 4000-7fff, the memory usage after decrunch is what matters. The crunched prg is at $0801 because it has to be RUNed normally.

But say my intro is exactly 16kb from $4000 to $7fff and I crunch it to 4kb from $801 to $1801. Doesn't that break the rule of having all ram besides the chosen $4000 bytes be untouched ?
2018-11-07 11:12
Dwangi

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 129
Golara:
No doesnt matter.
Should be in one 16kb block while the intro is running.
so if you keep the intro between $4000 - $7fff then it is okay.
But then dont use screen ram $0400-$07ff.
2018-11-07 11:48
Golara
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gotcha. Thanks
2018-11-07 11:50
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1359
Excellent news! Looking forward to this :)

Thanks Didi for your blessing to run last year's compo, and thanks for taking up the reins again this year.
2018-11-07 13:30
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1359
Just checking my understanding of the memory restriction:

I gather *post decrunch* anything you touch anything outside

- $0000-$01ff
- your chosen 16k block
- $fffc-$ffff
- the IO area (VIC, SID, CIA 1&2, colour RAM)

must be be restored upon exit.


Is that correct?
2018-11-07 13:49
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2804
Quoting ChristopherJam
- $fffc-$ffff
Plus $fffa/b, i hope? :)
2018-11-07 14:45
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Quoting ChristopherJam
[...]must be be restored upon exit.
As I understood it from earlier years, you couldn't touch anything outside these areas, regardless of whether it was restored.
2018-11-07 15:09
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1359
From the rules:
Quote:
RAM besides chosen $4000 bytes area and exceptions has to be the same before and after running the intro. What happens during runtime is up to you.
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