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2020-09-02 02:42
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 446
Event id #2985 : Filterless $21 Compo 2020

What is this? Count me in!
 
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2020-09-04 13:00
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1717
Quoting ChristopherJam
The test bit has nothing to do with the envelope, it only resets the oscillator phase.

In common HR usage it does however blank out the oscillator output during the initial attack phase of the envelope, effectively truncating the start of the env curve.
2020-09-04 13:01
F7sus4

Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 112
Quote: The test bit has nothing to do with the envelope, it only resets the oscillator phase.

Yes, obviously, but that wasn't the point. Again, if any tracker happens to use testbit in its restart routine because of the internal code, such tune cannot comply to the current rules right now. The same applies to zero waveform and from what I see, this was an issue for @spider-j.
2020-09-04 13:29
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1380
Ah, of course(s)! Thanks tlr & F7sus4.
2020-09-04 14:28
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 224
With so much energy on a pedantic level of the rules I'd expect nothing less from the results at this compo, You guys are hilarious!
21 used to be the bus-line from school and home as expressway for me in my youth, so the number is kind of special.
I bet one could do just as much as one ever dreamed of, with just sawtooth waveforms; drums, leads, solos, arpeggios, chords.
Good luck guys, I'll be listening and vote as usual: "The gfx-guy who is a sucker for music".
2020-09-04 14:48
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: Yes, obviously, but that wasn't the point. Again, if any tracker happens to use testbit in its restart routine because of the internal code, such tune cannot comply to the current rules right now. The same applies to zero waveform and from what I see, this was an issue for @spider-j.

They do comply. That use case is explicitly allowed:

"No testbit or zero waveform allowed ___outside___ routine's hardrestart phase"
2020-09-04 15:33
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 224
So? Seriously would that even make any difference? I hear lousy musicians cry in vain ;D
2020-09-04 15:52
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting F7sus4
Again, if any tracker happens to use testbit in its restart routine because of the internal code, such tune cannot comply to the current rules right now. The same applies to zero waveform and from what I see, this was an issue for @spider-j.


You brought it on yourselves, guys, didn't you? :D First draft of rules was both friendly and specific on the subject - what Jackasser said, basically ;)
2020-09-04 16:12
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
Are we allowed to release our tracks with specific instructions? Like having to throw a blanket over the speakers before hitting that play button to compensate for the missing lowpass filter? Couldn't find anything about blankets in the rules :(
2020-09-04 16:15
Joe

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 224
I have to agree: Fesus just gives 5-6's to his competitors material on CSDb in general, but writes ok stuff about it, whilst he hits them in their back? It's quite lame from a guy who does ok stuff himself? He is on my future shit-list onwards.
2020-09-04 16:29
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1717
Quote: They do comply. That use case is explicitly allowed:

"No testbit or zero waveform allowed ___outside___ routine's hardrestart phase"


Though the last comment was "Ok, so here is yet another update. Zero waveforms, or $00, is not allowed in this compo. Furthermore, hard restart is not allowed, and the only bits allowed in this compo are $20, $21, $22, and $23."

I think it's quite fresh that it's so restricted. Will force people to do unorthodox sound design. :)

And you still have up to 16-speed to play with. Not too limiting IMO.
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