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2020-09-02 02:42
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 446
Event id #2985 : Filterless $21 Compo 2020

What is this? Count me in!
 
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2020-09-04 22:01
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11127
Some ppl think their weird sounds make their music any better?

Make music not sounds
2020-09-04 22:11
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3136
Quote: Some ppl think their weird sounds make their music any better?

Make music not sounds


+1 this.
2020-09-05 22:25
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
I like making music with sounds :D
2020-09-07 08:34
Flotsam

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 81
I love sounds. I love melodies. I love rhythms. The combination of these allow a huge variety of music and I love it all (except Arttu Wiskari). There's no reason to try separate the components from each other or to compare them - they are a big mess that can't survive without each other.
2020-09-07 11:35
Mibri

Registered: Feb 2018
Posts: 200
Quote: I love sounds. I love melodies. I love rhythms. The combination of these allow a huge variety of music and I love it all (except Arttu Wiskari). There's no reason to try separate the components from each other or to compare them - they are a big mess that can't survive without each other.

Flotsam, I want this post tattooed on my forehead (excepting the Arttu Wiskari reference since I don’t know who they are, though I suspect that this is for the best).

Listen, the handling of sound spectra managed by dealing in timbres and textures (otherwise known as ‘making sounds’, I suppose) is an integral part of composition for a lot of musicians in involved in SID music and indeed beyond. Some musicians put a greater degree of emphasis on this than others, much like how some musicians are more concerned with writing ‘catchy’ melodies than others, some musicians are more concerned with devising clever and original rhythms than others, and some musicians are more concerned with trying to make the hardest, nastiest, most upset-the-neighbours stuff possible than others. Ultimately, it’s all valid!

I haven’t read the entirety of this thread and I don’t really wish to; I just wanted to pop in to try and encourage some understanding between the more orthodox, melody-driven composers/listeners and those of us who like to try on funny hats from time to time. Hopefully this compo will produce some great tunes of many sorts - the restrictions are brutal, but there’s always a way...
2020-09-07 15:27
No-XS

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 78
I won't enter, because I don't know what testbit is. I can make a wv21, but not sure about that testbit etc.
2020-09-07 16:58
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1380
Much love to Jammer, Flotsam, and Mibri for the sentiments you've expressed in the last few comments. Beautifully put, all of you.
2020-09-07 17:00
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1380
No-XS: Perhaps don't stress it, and write a tune anyway?

At this point I'm feeling inspired by all of the other rules, so I'm just going to try and do an entry before the deadline that passes on all those counts, and ignore the test bit dramas altogether. If it's out of compo, it's out of compo - it's still a nice excuse to try and make+release something a bit different :)
2020-09-08 07:36
booker
Account closed

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 333
Quoting spider-j

So that basically means in order to comply with the rules you can set HR ADSR to whatever you want and "1st Frame Wave" to $20, $21, $22, $23. But you can _not_ turn off HR completely – which means writing "1st Frame Wave" parameter one frame before new note (means: no frequency) into $D404, $D40B or $D412 with HR ADSR values in $D405, $D40C or $D413.


From manual, you can:

Instrument legato works as following: When HR/Gate Timer parameter has bit $40
set, no hard restart or gateoff will be performed. When 1st Frame Wave is also
$00, no 1st frame waveform will be set and gate flag is untouched. However wave/
pulse/filterpointers and ADSR are initialized normally. You can also use this in
conjunction with command 8XY to set another wavetable pointer for the note.
2020-09-08 18:19
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Nice idea. I need to think what I can compose with $21, $23 wave forms
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