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2021-04-25 18:07
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
Release id #203390 : Unity

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Submitted by Ze Smasher on 25 April 2021
great demo! I love the triple fisting part and the one with the big logo swing with that strange color fx (is it by you, Doc?).
I have a question tho (a simple straight question without malignity and bad feelings which I hope won't offend anyone): if you are the organizers of a party should your demo compete against other entries or be set out of the compo?
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Submitted by anonym on 25 April 2021
Appreciate the question. Something like this has happened at other parties many many times before, it took less than a minute to find several other examples here on CSDb.
For us, there were a number of reasons this happened, mostly because the timing worked out. For a new event, there are many risks involved. One of the biggest risks is a lack of release for the competitions. One way to address this is to have your own entry.
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2021-04-25 23:38
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
It's also a tradition that drama emerges when organizers win the compo of their party :)

What's the problem again? :)
2021-04-26 00:22
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
As long as there is public voting and not a jury deciding, there is no question of credibility, is there? :)
2021-04-26 00:22
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
Organizing Gubbdata and all; what to do as an orga then? Voting at Gubbdata has always being transparent, and counting and results summed up by Triad or LFT, so noone could call me or GP cheaters.
2021-04-26 00:27
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
And as for juries:

X'2000 -> Xenon 1st

Hard to find out these days when X started to have a jury and when they decided to abandon that practice, but i'm glad they did eventually. =)
2021-04-26 00:39
anonym

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 247
Quote: Organizing Gubbdata and all; what to do as an orga then? Voting at Gubbdata has always being transparent, and counting and results summed up by Triad or LFT, so noone could call me or GP cheaters.

That's a great practice <3 it. I want to be clear, I wasn't accusing you at all, just one of the first parties that came to mind that had (great) releases by a group of one of the organizers. I don't mind this practice at all, especially when it is handled so well.
2021-04-26 09:28
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
topic is not about cheating or else. Public/transparent voting is a fantastic thing. and no drama at all here.
I was just wondering if adding a rule like "organizers can compete but not win the compo" or "organizers can have entries but not compete in the compo" could make sense.
2021-04-26 09:50
Boogaloo

Registered: Aug 2019
Posts: 21
Quote: topic is not about cheating or else. Public/transparent voting is a fantastic thing. and no drama at all here.
I was just wondering if adding a rule like "organizers can compete but not win the compo" or "organizers can have entries but not compete in the compo" could make sense.


Why would that make sense? I don't understand.
2021-04-26 11:46
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
organizers can compete and win if they make a better demo than yours, solution is to be better. rest is just whining. ez.
2021-04-26 12:08
Medicus

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 43
Why no rule like: "Famous people/groups are not allowed to enter compos because of name-voting"?
2021-04-26 12:13
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
Quote: Why would that make sense? I don't understand.

because you are the prize giver AND the prize taker.
you gave us examples that this happened many times and it's common practice. I'm not whining nor complaining and I have no problems accepting that.
It'd be cool to have different examples: parties or csdb compos where the organizer says "we cannot win and/or partecipate".
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