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2010-01-27 18:40
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
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Event id #1610 : X 2010

The date is final: 1,2,3 October 2010 in The Netherlands.

New location!

More info will follow soon.
2010-01-27 18:43
Acidchild

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 465
yeah, the date fits very well for me...now i only need to find someone to go with me from dresden
2010-01-27 18:53
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227
yeah
2010-01-27 19:07
Oxbow

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 50
Party location is near Eindhoven Airport http://eindhovenairport.com/
which has several low cost airlines like the ryanairs and wizzairs..

2010-01-27 19:11
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886
And there's also a trainstation nearby, which is easy to reach coming from Eindhoven.
2010-01-27 19:26
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
I'll walk if I have to. \o/
2010-01-27 20:10
Ninja

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
/me cries a tear of happiness...
2010-01-27 20:32
null
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w00t! when can we sign up? :_D

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http://zomgwtfbbq.info
2010-01-27 20:37
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
Eindhoven \o/
2010-01-27 20:55
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
I am looking forward to read more details :-)
2010-01-27 21:06
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
New location?
Interesting... is it the place where Outline was held last time? :)
2010-01-27 21:22
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
Quote: New location?
Interesting... is it the place where Outline was held last time? :)


nope!
2010-01-27 22:07
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254
This place?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Evoluon.jpg

Or is that reserved for SciFi-cons only? ;-)
2010-01-28 00:27
Conjuror

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 168
Quote:
I'll walk if I have to. \o/

I'll fly if I have to. :D
2010-01-28 12:26
SIDWAVE
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round up the australian gang, and share the costs, so we can get whole aussie scene to X :D
2010-01-28 13:14
Conjuror

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 168
Can we have the location soon thanks?

Need to start planning my holiday around X!
2010-01-28 20:00
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Woo Yay Hoopla! Sheer joy and overexcitement abound.... \o/

Seconded is the request for the Aussie gang to show up! 8) Grab alih and tony while you're at it, willya?

I'll crawl there on bloody stumps if you cut off my arms and legs - there, eye rool you all! ;-D
2010-01-28 20:58
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269
Can I pay for all the offence members right away, a pre pay thing to ensure us getting places here?

We just need to go here... we want to even give out a small demo. We have been away from the scene in so many years now and we can not miss a real c64 party when we finally are doing something again on the machine, that would be a major downsetter for us!
2010-01-28 21:09
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
PAL: Yeah, you Offence guys deserve to come to X! But just make sure to sign up when that will be possible. :-)
2010-01-28 21:13
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269
I heard from GT that LCP were all sold out in 30 minutes. So it is also here maybe? We just want to go to a real c64 party again and release something and talk with all the dudes again. Plese let us have tickets, reserve some for us, about 5 at least.

How big is x party? is it like 500 people and alot of tickets or only very limited?
2010-01-28 21:17
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
I think it's been like 150-200 people the last few times.
The only problem last time when too many people signed up, was that the arrangers couldn't guarantee beds for all. But as far as I remember there were still some spare beds... Not everybody who signs up manage to show up, afterall :-)
2010-01-28 21:24
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269
We will show up if getting tickets that is for sure, that is why I could pay today... hope to get tickets... it would be so cool to be there.
2010-01-28 21:27
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
PAL: Yep, just remember to check the homepage everyday... And I can tell you that the real c64 party feeling is definately there, at the X parties. :)
2010-01-28 21:35
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Jan: nice idea, would love to come, so fucking expensive though.

Bring on the pardey!
2010-01-28 21:51
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1821
Ok, sick call for october already called. Will we be limited on the noise level at the new location, Burg, CBA? :)

l8r

Count Zero/CyberpunX/SCS*TRC
2010-01-28 23:26
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
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I've heard trustworthy rumours that the main live-music act this year be a peruvian flute-band, playing covers of your favorite SID's.
2010-01-28 23:33
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269
my ears and mind are broken now... just imagine that blew it all away... pppfffffhhhuuuu pppphhhfffuuuuu phuuuuuu huuuuu huuuuu phhhhfffffhhhouuuuu huuuuu phuuuu huuuu he hhhuuuu...phhuuu phhhuu phhhuuu huuuuuuuuu phhuuphhhuupphhuuu huuuuu huuuuuuu huuuuuuuuououuuuuu

...and to do it all burnout, they perform in native indian clothes with rasterbars as patterns and c logos to decorate it all.... the pain... the pain... I burnt off my eyes too...
2010-01-29 06:47
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 421
PAL, I don't think Twoflower was joking.
I've also heard that rumor, and afaik they're already practicing for it.
2010-01-29 06:57
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11111
remember to guard me outside then before this starts .... =P
2010-01-29 07:02
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
Quote: Ok, sick call for october already called. Will we be limited on the noise level at the new location, Burg, CBA? :)

l8r

Count Zero/CyberpunX/SCS*TRC


We had two good reasons for changing the location of the party.

1. Noise problem
2. We needed more beds

Both of them are solved.


PAL:

Don't worry about tickets, once the website is up, just register straight away.
2010-01-29 07:57
chatGPZ

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"1. Noise problem"

wtf? in the middle of nowhere ? will the new location be somewhere in the desert or so? :)
2010-01-29 07:59
cba

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Quote: "1. Noise problem"

wtf? in the middle of nowhere ? will the new location be somewhere in the desert or so? :)


Yeah I totally agree, we also were like WTF back in 2008.
All of the sudden there was a family living with kids at this old location and they started to complain during the concert of Reyn.

X-2010, new location, the Mongolian Gobi Desert.
2010-01-29 08:58
Conjuror

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 168
Quote:
Seconded is the request for the Aussie gang to show up! 8) Grab alih and tony while you're at it, willya?


Will do my best to get the others to come.

European holiday here I come \o/
2010-01-29 09:40
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487
Quote: PAL, I don't think Twoflower was joking.
I've also heard that rumor, and afaik they're already practicing for it.


How odd. Heard the very same rumour just yesterday!
2010-01-29 09:46
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
Quote: This place?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Evoluon.jpg

Or is that reserved for SciFi-cons only? ;-)


gee, I was there with my parents as a kid on a summer holiday :)
2010-01-29 12:14
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227
how much space does the new location offer? at X-08 it seemed to have reached the limit attendants-wise
2010-01-29 12:19
chatGPZ

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yazoo: how much bigger did you become ? :o)
2010-01-29 12:22
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227
Quote: yazoo: how much bigger did you become ? :o)

ahhh shut up ;-) just bring the obstler hehe i hope a-man will not mix me up with airwolf again lol
2010-01-29 12:27
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
Quote: how much space does the new location offer? at X-08 it seemed to have reached the limit attendants-wise

at X08 we actually were beyond the limit.

the new place is bigger and better.
2010-01-29 12:28
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227
Quote: at X08 we actually were beyond the limit.

the new place is bigger and better.


thats good news :)
2010-01-29 12:41
Conrad

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Posts: 833
That's during my 24th birthday! But luckily turning 24 is nothing compared to turning 18 or 21. :)

Anyone from Britain travelling there, let me know.
2010-01-29 13:52
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Hey Owen make sure to be there so we can finally have a beer!
2010-01-29 14:36
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
Quote: That's during my 24th birthday! But luckily turning 24 is nothing compared to turning 18 or 21. :)

Anyone from Britain travelling there, let me know.


I'll try to persuade (i.e. force) Ne7 to go when I meet him at Datastorm. Would be cool to meet up, Owen. :)
2010-01-29 16:35
daison

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 90
I'll be there.
2010-01-29 17:42
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487
Quote: I'll try to persuade (i.e. force) Ne7 to go when I meet him at Datastorm. Would be cool to meet up, Owen. :)

Yes!
Ne7 & Bizzmo & TMR, Conrad & Devistator & Neil & Tim & Leming & Shuze & Cupid & Mirage - we want you there!
(sorry if i forgot anyone :)
2010-01-29 19:35
Cresh

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Posts: 354
Bring Mr Bean, too! :)
2010-01-30 22:21
A Life in Hell
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time to put plan #3423 into motion,

completed:

step 1: budget aquired.
step 2: leave approved.

todo:

step 3: learn to fly, or failing that, use aeroplane.
step 4: make teh demoz.
step 5: party.
2010-02-01 09:46
FATFrost
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Hahaha. 'make teh demoz' !!!!!

2010-02-03 17:46
The Human Code Machine

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Posts: 110
I'll be there for sure!
2010-02-10 10:40
ne7
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i'm def. comin :)
2010-02-10 11:43
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 490
I'll miss BP 2010 this year and all my focus will be on X 2010. I hope I can make it.
2010-02-11 10:08
Linus

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Posts: 638
Quote: Bring Mr Bean, too! :)

... and MTR/ViruZ, of course!
2010-02-11 12:51
FATFrost
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Can i come to teh party? :(
2010-02-15 07:22
Jazzcat

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Just gotta clear it with work and will be there, albeit the weekend only but that's all that matters).
2010-02-15 07:55
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
Looking forward to meeting you there, Dave!
2010-02-15 13:25
Scout

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Quoting Jazzcat
Just gotta clear it with work and will be there, albeit the weekend only but that's all that matters).


Alright! \o/
2010-02-15 14:22
ne7
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conrad; pop yourself on #ukscene on ircnet mate - yes i'll be going for sure maybe we can arrange to get the same flight or something :)

jazzcat; would be great to meet up mate! :)
2010-02-15 15:52
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 459
Quote: Quoting Jazzcat
Just gotta clear it with work and will be there, albeit the weekend only but that's all that matters).


Alright! \o/


I will bring some nice stuff you can taste :)
2010-02-15 17:17
Scout

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Quoting Mason
I will bring some nice stuff you can taste :)


That sounds a bit...gay ;)
2010-02-15 19:48
Mason

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Posts: 459
Quote: Quoting Mason
I will bring some nice stuff you can taste :)


That sounds a bit...gay ;)


Dont worry... I make sure you can taste Gammel Dansk again
2010-02-16 07:49
SIDWAVE
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I want Carlsberg beer!

..
nah its a joke...

That Grolsch stuff is ok.
Bordeaux brought me a case last summer.. this is now my transfer case from/to the supermarket, as it has a handle in the middle :D
2010-02-16 19:39
DRAX

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 224
Those Grolsch beers are pure torture... But those Pitt beers were great ;)
2010-02-16 19:50
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
I vote for Pitt beers too! ;-)
But last time it was perfect... I think there were 3 brands or so to choose from. Should make most people happy :-)
2010-02-16 20:55
Jazzcat

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Boags Premium from Tasmania please ;))
2010-02-16 22:40
booker
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Quoting Conrad
Anyone from Britain travelling there, let me know.

No one goes from UK, dude!!

Most likely we will go by car with Leming and Dezert... as we always do. But that's a damn hell of the ride - will consider a flight+train this time.

Book your goddamn holidays NOW! :))



Jazzcat - you bitch! You're comming! I want new [O] shirt! :>

LOL

2010-02-16 22:45
booker
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Quoting Oxbow
Party location is near Eindhoven Airport http://eindhovenairport.com/
which has several low cost airlines like the ryanairs and wizzairs..


Cool man - how near? :)
2010-02-17 08:15
WVL

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Haven't measured, but it's about 30KM. Roughly 25KM from the centre of eindhoven.
2010-02-17 11:38
Linus

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Jeez, 89km for me. I consider coming by car :)
2010-02-17 17:59
booker
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Quoting WVL
Haven't measured, but it's about 30KM. Roughly 25KM from the centre of eindhoven.

Cool :)

Bah, there's a bus every 10 minutes to Eindhoven Central Station. Najs.

Quoting Linus
Jeez, 89km for me. I consider coming by car :)

:-P !

:)
2010-02-17 18:44
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 453
Quote: Jeez, 89km for me. I consider coming by car :)

das gluck ist mit den dummen :|
i was enjoying long car trips to X, now i wonder if 1200 (instead of 1100) km to travel can kill that enjoyment in me. plane? train? teleportation? fuck.
2010-02-17 19:47
psych

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 140
Michal,tell everyone why did you enjoy the trip so much ;)

because I was driving all the way there and back ;)
2010-02-17 23:30
Hate Bush

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it's always better to have a private driver. and a bodyguard. *smoker*
2010-02-18 16:28
psych

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Posts: 140
you can always count on me my brother ;)

I promise,this time I wont let you sleep during the demo-compo ;) *stonehead*
2010-02-19 14:43
Scout

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Follow us on twitter:

http://twitter.com/xparty

News about the official site launch (soon!!), updates and of course live twittering at the party itself in October.
2010-02-19 22:18
booker
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Follow us on twatter. Live twatting at X in October!
2010-03-14 09:10
cba

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The website is online !

http://www.scs-trc.net/x2010
2010-03-14 09:42
Mace

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Posts: 1799
Nice website!
I registered, please add me to the transfering team.
2010-03-14 16:11
Yazoo

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great location: http://www.dehoof.nl/index.php?pid=39&sub=26&subsub=71
2010-03-14 19:37
Mace

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Yay, woohoo, it's got a HotSpot!
Free internet for all! ;-)
2010-03-14 20:20
Danzig

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 429
Incredible!!! Already 140+ registrations!!!
2010-03-14 20:30
SIDWAVE
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>For both the music and graphics competition no visible >signature of the artist may be shown during the display of >the actual work, thus the production should be tagless. No >pre-screens with additional information are allowed >either. At request, artists should be able to hand over >working stages.

Last X, first 5 tunes were played anonymous, then someone started to say who done it.

Now please make up your mind: anonymous, or completely open so people have name on screen.

Dont mess it up again plz.

:D
2010-03-15 09:29
Jammer

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Quote: >For both the music and graphics competition no visible >signature of the artist may be shown during the display of >the actual work, thus the production should be tagless. No >pre-screens with additional information are allowed >either. At request, artists should be able to hand over >working stages.

Last X, first 5 tunes were played anonymous, then someone started to say who done it.

Now please make up your mind: anonymous, or completely open so people have name on screen.

Dont mess it up again plz.

:D


i'm definitely for anonymous entries. unquestionable and fair standard from polish parties ;)
2010-03-15 18:07
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
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Wowsers - hitting 200 in a minute. Awesome.

/cz
2010-03-15 18:57
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886
and I'm the mighty #200 :)
2010-03-15 19:08
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 675
May I propose a voting system?
Simplify things. My idea:
buy 1000 table tennis balls (or just something 'unique').
Hand one per category to each who paid entrance fee.
Voting = buckets or something.
Either one bucket/bag per entry or everyone writes a number on his ball (nice sentence) and throws it in the category-bucket.

Only one vote per category per scener.
I like the ball idea but thinking again, some piece of paper + pens should suffice.

This will make it SO simple, I'd hope more people would vote then.
Worst case: some guys pick steal balls from others (that didnt have the balls to look after their balls) and hence double-vote. Well, they made quite some effort for that then and the entry might deserve an illegal double-vote for that :)

Anyone with me here?

To sum up, I (personal opinion) favor:
- no electronic voting
- no big lists with lots of numbers
- NOT one vote per entry, but rather one vote (or two) per category (in words: "I like THAT pic the most" not "I liked pix number 27 the 13th most")

- simple, 'mechanical' counting of votes

Cheers,
enthusi
2010-03-15 19:27
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Enthusi, what if everybody agrees that one or two pics are the best in the gfx category.
How can we ever be sure what order to put the remaining pics in?
2010-03-15 19:28
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
great idea.

only, x08 had an obvious winner, 200 balls for Booze, what about place 2 till 10?
2010-03-15 19:53
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
Yes! Let's all count thousands of pingpong balls in the middle of the night when you're drunk as hell \o/

Should make some funny pictures ;)

@Jan, the actual show/listen rules for the compo's are still subject to change. The announcing last year was, uhm, crap.
2010-03-15 21:26
Frantic

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@Mace: Then again.. Should it be taken for granted that a list where every entry is assigned a position is needed? I have the feeling that party votes are generally somewhat random when it comes to lower ranked entries anyway. I mean.. the ping pong ball idea may be a little limited, but there may certainly be nicer ways of doing the voting than some complicated procedure. It is always kinda crappy when it takes a lot of time to count votes, whatever system is used, in the middle of the night after the compo when everyone is tired.
2010-03-15 21:38
enthusi

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Everyone gets 10 pennies to distribute freely among all entries (cups). Weight the cups in the end.
Just something like that :)
Back to good mechanics :)
I didnt mean 'balls' when I wrote 'balls'.
2010-03-16 08:36
Mace

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Frantic, you're absolutely right, and I hate long votinglists too.
But the idea Enthusi had, won't work either for the reason I mentioned. And that's all I wanted to point out.

The idea with the pennies sounds good, though!
Although I suspect there will be people who'll bet all their pennies on one horse ;-)

Oh, and make sure people won't be able to grab pennies from one bucket to put them in another...

Talking of which:
2010-03-16 18:00
enthusi

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didnt want to provoce pictures with my ideas.
I put a refined version of them in a mail directed to the staff ;-)
Case closed...
or is it?
2010-03-16 19:20
McMeatLoaf

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Any guys in here from southern Sweden coming to X?
2010-03-17 03:05
Jazzcat

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Posts: 1044
Mc: hopefully the Svârd brothers will go (Malmoe).
2010-03-17 06:34
Radiant

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Quote: Any guys in here from southern Sweden coming to X?

Most people registered from Sweden and travelling by car are from Scania or its general whereabouts.
2010-03-17 07:17
Dane
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The Boozemobile will be travelling from Weeze if anyone is interested.
2010-03-17 08:20
Archmage

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Posts: 185
Andromeda represents!
2010-03-17 09:24
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts:
We will most probably rent a bus as always (8 seats). Currently it's me, Oxidy, Puterman, Pernod. Normally Hollowman also joins in, and usually we pick up Krill in Hamburg. Can't see why this year would be any different. :)

So, there's room for one or two more I guess.

The bus travels from Lund/Malmö.
2010-03-17 10:02
Stone

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Some of us from Offence and Prosonix will be traveling from Oslo. I have no idea how we'll get there though. I see RyanAir have flights from Rygge to Eindhoven. Perhaps that's a good option.
2010-03-17 10:28
Linus

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Quote: The Boozemobile will be travelling from Weeze if anyone is interested.

Maybe we can arrange something. Weeze is my old hometown and I currently live about 30km away. My car provides *plenty* of space.
2010-03-17 11:04
SIDWAVE
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It can be a killer compo..

037 - Demo
024 - Graphics
030 - Music
142 - Nothing

there is less demos than 37 because people are in groups
but 24 gfx and 30 tunes... my god... that will be 1.5 hour music compo. jesus!!!! :D
2010-03-17 12:11
Scout

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.
2010-03-17 13:48
Mace

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Quoting Scout
.
What's your point?
2010-03-17 13:55
enthusi

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with all respect to musicians,
but I find long sid compos extremely boring.
But that might just be me.
Maybe you can think of some way to deal with that?
Start SID-compo very early ahead of gfx/demos?
Or no remote tune-entries?
Or pre-selection?
Or 1 tune per group?
Or people have to pay me for presenting a tune?
2010-03-17 14:09
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
Quote: with all respect to musicians,
but I find long sid compos extremely boring.
But that might just be me.
Maybe you can think of some way to deal with that?
Start SID-compo very early ahead of gfx/demos?
Or no remote tune-entries?
Or pre-selection?
Or 1 tune per group?
Or people have to pay me for presenting a tune?


We don't accept remote tune entries.
2010-03-17 14:19
Mace

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Don't accept entries that are only remotely music either.

And I think 15 to 17 tunes is the max, because this will mean a compo of one hour.
After that, our ears start to bleed!
2010-03-17 14:24
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
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there should at least be a break of 20 or 30 minutes in the middle of the competition. at x'2008 the sidcompo was a bit too long, and the tunes presented at the end had a big disadvantage because everyones ears were bleeding already.

and the sid-compo should start early i think. otherwise it will lead to the democompo taking place too late at night which means some ppl are falling asleep ;-)

just my 2 cents
2010-03-17 17:21
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
hold your horses guys, still 198 days left till X10. give us some time to come up with a good compo setup.
2010-03-17 18:13
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
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I suggest a "Applause-O-Meter".

And for those who think the sid compo is too long. That's an easy fix.
Limit the tunes to 2 minutes, or less. But watch out, don't make it too short. Otherwise we'll have a lot of compo-jingles and no compo-tunes. JUST KIDDING!!!

PS: Dont make the compos too late. I religiously get myself stronken and tend to pass out before the democompo every time. It's just too fucking late!
I'm an old man, you know.

2010-03-17 19:16
Burglar

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Quoting StainlessSteel
PS: Dont make the compos too late. I religiously get myself stronken and tend to pass out before the democompo every time. It's just too fucking late!
I'm an old man, you know.

maybe I shouldn't get you any this year ;)
2010-03-17 19:27
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The statistics are nice, but let's not forget that they're not facts; some people might not show up, or not bring a tune/demo/pic after all.

But yeah, Music compo shouldn't drag on for too long, or otherwise just early.

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2010-03-17 22:59
Stainless Steel

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Quoting Burglar
maybe I shouldn't get you any this year ;)
No Sir, you should absolutely positively get me some this year. Otherwise, I WILL HAVE TO SMOKE YOU! :-D
2010-03-18 03:31
ptoing

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I will try to come (pretty sure) and if so also try to get something entered into the GFX Compo :D

Also, to anyone German reading this and going by car.
If you are not too far from Freiburg by train I would appreciate getting a lift. I would pay part of the gas of course.
2010-03-18 06:59
SIDWAVE
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Quote: hold your horses guys, still 198 days left till X10. give us some time to come up with a good compo setup.

My best advice is, to keep the deadlines strict - so you can start early, and democompo wont start after midnight and run until too late.

As I see it, its about controlling the deadline.

18:00 music
(break)
20:00 gfx
(break)
22:00 demo

if you make all deadlines at 14:00 - you have plenty of time.

But you must be a bitch, and say "no exceptions".
the delaying is always made from extending deadline, because 1 or 2 demogroups are not done with their stuff.

just tell people: if you want to release at X, have your stuff ready when you arrive.

bugfixing in last minute on a party is crap anyway.

Go to X with a finished product, then you can talk and booze instead of slaving over some trackmo that wont link correctly. :D

my 2 cents..
2010-03-18 07:18
Conjuror

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Whats the big deal over time taken for the competitions with the party been over 3 days?

Why not have the individual competitions spread out during the main day?

I'd really prefer not to sit through hour after hour of entries without a significant break in between

Quote:

just tell people: if you want to release at X, have your stuff ready when you arrive.

bugfixing in last minute on a party is crap anyway.


AGREED!
2010-03-18 07:20
SIDWAVE
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My thoughts on compo entry disks:

Giving away a fragile 5.25" floppy with your music/gfx/demo, with a nicely made dir structure, only to see that you copy the stuff to other disks, break the dir art and so on..

its 2010

A large percentage is using a laptop, SD cards, MMC replay, 1541 ultimate.

Now please throw out that disk circus! :D

instead of the disks, let people come to a computer, where 1 guy sits. he collects all the material.
no running around, finding cba or another guy, let there be a drop station where all know where it is, put a big sign up! "compo upload!"

Now anyone can come with their laptop, SD card, usb flashstick or whatever, and you copy it to the compo pc machine.

Save everything as D64 or PRG, on a pc.

end of transfer hell, guys running around "can you transfer my music to a real 5.25 disk please" - end of that shit! :D

just let them come to you, and you copy it all to a pc.

when deadline is reached, you can write it all to real floppies if you need.

disk swapping demos, risk to bug when you flip disk on a 1541 U - but no swapping ones are perfectly safe.

try and run 10 random trackmos on a 1541 U to see how it goes, as a test. if you are satisfied, use 1541 U.

i just suggest this, because then you dont have that copy to real disk circus. only do that if really required.

well, i gave the suggestions..
i dont want to give you a good free disks every time, when the fact is that almost nobody even use a real 5.25 disk when they make demos and music - they use a pc! its 2010.
2010-03-18 07:46
Conjuror

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At Syntax we uploaded our entries via a web application.

All was taken care of from there. (not written to floppies though)
2010-03-18 07:50
Stainless Steel

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Quoting Jan
end of transfer hell, guys running around "can you transfer my music to a real 5.25 disk please" - end of that shit! :D
Amen brother. Nostalgy and all, but it's fricking 2010. USB STICKS FTW!
2010-03-18 10:15
Jazzcat

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Yeah I agree on that - as long as the compo stuff is shown on real machines then all is good.
2010-03-18 13:01
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Nice try, Rambones, but what if I code something on my real c64 and have no means to transfer stuff to a USB drive?

I think your idea is stupid and people should decide for themselves how they submbit it (as long as the orgas are fine with it).

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2010-03-18 14:13
SIDWAVE
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Quote: Nice try, Rambones, but what if I code something on my real c64 and have no means to transfer stuff to a USB drive?

I think your idea is stupid and people should decide for themselves how they submbit it (as long as the orgas are fine with it).

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then you give them the 5.25 disk ofcourse.

you have misunderstood what its all about, its about that people can just come and deliver their entries, on the medias they have, and not have to transfer all to a 5.25
2010-03-18 14:25
Yazoo

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yep :) good idea... i dont have a working 1541 anymore (well, i have 3 drives, but they all seem to be broken)... so i just use my 1541u...

so, i say YES to the invention of the USB-stick, SD-Cards and whatever ;-)
2010-03-18 16:18
Stainless Steel

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Quoting knoeki
I think your idea is stupid
No, acutally it's not. Maybe it wasnt well thought through, but it's not stupid. I'd suggest both posibilities.

c64 Discs AND USB (or whatever other modern mumbo jumbo you prefer)

I've had the problem myself at the past 2 X's. I dont have either any floppy discs nor any real hardware.
And i know a couple of other composers who have the same problem.

And running around, begging for a disc and finding someone to transfer your shit is honestly a pain in the ass.
2010-03-18 16:54
SIDWAVE
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to cut it simple:

1) person has his release
2) compo crew copies it, no matter what media its on

if they want to run all from 5.25 floppy, its their business.

i just dont wanna give them a damn floppy every time i go to a party.

1) because i dont want to give away floppies
2) because i have my release on a D64 on a pc, SD card etc.
2010-03-18 17:45
Burglar

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Quoting Jan Harries
to cut it simple:

1) person has his release
2) compo crew copies it, no matter what media its on

if they want to run all from 5.25 floppy, its their business.

i just dont wanna give them a damn floppy every time i go to a party.

1) because i dont want to give away floppies
2) because i have my release on a D64 on a pc, SD card etc.

yawn harries, you're generating problems where there are none. if we can read your data on whatever media, its fine.

hell, you can just email your entry prior to the party.
2010-03-18 18:36
Acidchild

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Quote: Quoting knoeki
I think your idea is stupid
No, acutally it's not. Maybe it wasnt well thought through, but it's not stupid. I'd suggest both posibilities.

c64 Discs AND USB (or whatever other modern mumbo jumbo you prefer)

I've had the problem myself at the past 2 X's. I dont have either any floppy discs nor any real hardware.
And i know a couple of other composers who have the same problem.

And running around, begging for a disc and finding someone to transfer your shit is honestly a pain in the ass.


you don't mean this for real, do you? didn't you see the transfer-team in action? common!
2010-03-18 18:53
Stainless Steel

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Quoting Acidchild
you don't mean this for real, do you? didn't you see the transfer-team in action? common!
I did, and i appreciate your hard work. But i didn't think to go and bother you as i knew you probably had more discs to transfer than time.
I didn't really know you guys that good enough to feel comfortable with asking to interrupt your (important) transfer work, give me a free disk etc etc.

Instead, I bummed GRG or Jan for a disk and had to wait for Devia to finish his compotune (felt like hours) so Jan could transfer my stuff on his c64 (and the deadline was like 10 minutes ago).

I didn't feel comfortable with that either, but i knew Jan has a soft heart :-D BTW : Thanks Jan!

2010-03-18 19:12
Acidchild

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feel comfortable to ask me this time, ok? :)
2010-03-18 19:15
Mace

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Quote:
(...) i didn't think to go and bother you as i knew you probably had more discs to transfer than time.(...)
You knew wrong, my friend.
Let me point this out: there is no moldy, wrinkled, stained or cut-to-pieces floppy more important than compo entries!
At X-2010 I'd be more than happy to interrupt the rather tedious work of flipping anonymous floppies to transfer any PC media to 5.25" floppy in order to see a happy face and learn the name that comes with it :-)

Quote:
I didn't really know you guys that good enough to feel comfortable
And vice versa, but what better opportunity is there become acquainted with eachother?! ;-)
2010-03-18 19:18
Stainless Steel

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Duly noted. Thanks guys!
2010-03-18 20:10
Burglar

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So I guess it's safe to say that if the organizers are nazis, you can go to the highly appreciated transfer team to get something copied to disk :P

we will state our preferred media on the X10 website for compo entries. I remember scout or wevel saying it was a bitch getting things converted to d64 first lol ;)

one thing remains: all compo's will be run on the real thing with a 1541. old and new sid.

just talking on personal behalf, but I'm sure scout and wvl can shed some light on what they prefer.

PS: lets all hug Joe now ;)
2010-03-18 21:10
Danzig

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Quote:
Instead, I bummed GRG or Jan for a disk and had to wait for Devia to finish his compotune (felt like hours)


Felt like hours, felt like hours. You were just too mf stoned, Mr.Steel.
2010-03-19 10:25
Stainless Steel

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Quoting Danzisch
Felt like hours, felt like hours. You were just too mf stoned, Mr.Steel.
No way, me ? Now that's just slanderous talk :-D
Quoting Burglar
So I guess it's safe to say that if the organizers are nazis
That goes without saying :-D
2010-03-22 09:01
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SLIK!

One week after the dates are final, and already 257 registrations? I'm late.

Hopefully not too late :).
-- La vie, c'est la guerre des dualités.
2010-03-22 14:16
booker
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Question to the organisers :)

There might be several people not wanting their nicknames to be said before playing their compo tune. (the nick won't be there in C64 screen as well, to be coherent).

Do you guys think this can be arranged?
2010-03-22 20:02
Burglar

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Quoting booker
Question to the organisers :)

There might be several people not wanting their nicknames to be said before playing their compo tune. (the nick won't be there in C64 screen as well, to be coherent).

Do you guys think this can be arranged?

There might be several people wanting a public compo instead, but to be honest, we haven't decided yet.

I'd say there are basically 3 options: handle/group+title on screen, number on screen or number on audio.
2010-03-22 20:55
Yazoo

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number on screen is preferred here :) last time i didn't understand some of the handles (audio) because of all the noise around :)

and yes, i'd prefer that compo to be anonymously
2010-03-22 22:28
booker
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Quote: Quoting booker
Question to the organisers :)

There might be several people not wanting their nicknames to be said before playing their compo tune. (the nick won't be there in C64 screen as well, to be coherent).

Do you guys think this can be arranged?

There might be several people wanting a public compo instead, but to be honest, we haven't decided yet.

I'd say there are basically 3 options: handle/group+title on screen, number on screen or number on audio.


Hi Burglar

I just meant without breaking public compo - in case of general rule by handle/group+title on screen nevertheless to allow the entry to be anonymous if asked.

2010-03-23 00:38
SIDWAVE
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how hard can it be to write #2 on screen, displayed from a pc, then switch off display and run c64 exe.

so we dont have to pack 2 versions of our music.
one with blank screen, and one with info.

?

:D
2010-03-23 03:48
Jazzcat

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Yeh number on the screen would be best and anonymous!
2010-03-23 04:39
Ninja

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Displayed by a C64 not PC, of course!

(SCNR! I trust the orgas. There are a million of details to care about which we will never see... If I had a vote, I'd also go for anonymous, though)
2010-03-23 05:45
Mace

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Why not also silence the C64 sound, so you can not hear any 'sound signature' or typical sounds of a certain musician?
The orgas can than read out loud a description of what the music sounds like, to further anonymize the compo.
2010-03-23 06:00
Conjuror

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And while we're at it, lets make demos anonymous :D
2010-03-23 06:19
SIDWAVE
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yes, no group logos allowed in demos, just hardcore zoomrot routines allowed! D:D
2010-03-23 09:31
Stainless Steel

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Quoting mace
The orgas can than read out loud a description of what the music sounds like
I'd rather see the orga's do a barbershop style version of each tune in the compo. Wearing proper outfits.
2010-03-23 11:24
SIDWAVE
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no, everybody hands in sheet music, and reyn or jt plays it live on a standard piano!
2010-03-25 10:17
booker
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Quoting http://www.scs-trc.net/x2010/info.html

C64 Competitions :

{...}

- For both the music and graphics competition no visible signature of the artist may be shown during the display of the actual work, thus the production should be tagless.(...)


Excellent!

Respect.
2010-05-28 09:46
Steppe

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Mace, Jan, Joe, your ideas are well worth considering! :D
2010-05-29 09:48
SIDWAVE
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The website goes on in the old stiff fashion: "your entry must be delivered on a floppy disk, and disks will not be returned"

No mention, that you can come walzing with a usb stick/sd card, and get the compo organizer to copy your stuff to his own pc.

I think you should write that this is possible to do, on the website. Since you said it would be possible (Burglar).
2010-05-29 10:04
Hein

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I think all demo entries will be handed in on floppy disc anyway. Most musics too, only lamers like me don't test it on a real c64. Only gfx might not be tested on a real c64.
2010-05-29 10:47
Jazzcat

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I will be spreading some stuff on Friday night via floppy disks and maybe some cds for those with their laptops.

NUFLI flickers on a real C64? Has anyone tested? :)
2010-05-29 11:24
enthusi

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Heya...
Naaah, nufli is no interlace at all.
MUIfli does flicker potentially :-)
But (afaik) neither work for ntsc so far.
2010-05-29 12:37
chatGPZ

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Quote:
No mention, that you can come walzing with a usb stick/sd card, and get the compo organizer to copy your stuff to his own pc.

I think you should write that this is possible to do, on the website. Since you said it would be possible (Burglar).


i think those who cant even copy their c64 stuff to a c64 disk should be disqualified by default, and sleep outside with the cows.
2010-05-30 00:36
SIDWAVE
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Quote: Quote:
No mention, that you can come walzing with a usb stick/sd card, and get the compo organizer to copy your stuff to his own pc.

I think you should write that this is possible to do, on the website. Since you said it would be possible (Burglar).


i think those who cant even copy their c64 stuff to a c64 disk should be disqualified by default, and sleep outside with the cows.


well some dont use floppies anymore, but a 1541u and a real c64. its not 1992 anymore.
2010-05-30 01:05
chatGPZ

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still the compo setup is a c64 and a 1541, not some half working emulation of any of those.
2010-05-30 03:48
SIDWAVE
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which is close to being outdated
2010-05-30 05:38
Ninja

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c64 is getting outdated?? you mean, everyone is going to buy an amiga now???
2010-05-30 08:53
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C64 + 1541 outdated? shit, I wish I knew that earlier. Oh wait, I did.

...does it even matter? I for one applaud that they actually play the demos from the real thing, as they're supposed to be. Wanna bet that if they'd use a c64+1541u (or videos, or emlation) people would whine too?

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2010-05-30 09:05
Conrad

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Isn't C64 + 1541 traditional though? ... even if we are in the 10's now. I guess we'll all have to take SD cards with us. :P

rambones: I think you're just too excited with your 1541u :)
2010-05-30 11:58
Dane
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Quote: I think all demo entries will be handed in on floppy disc anyway. Most musics too, only lamers like me don't test it on a real c64. Only gfx might not be tested on a real c64.

I am indeed a lamer like you.
2010-05-31 08:33
Stainless Steel

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What's a real c64 ?

But the bigger question is, will the Booze lamers be able to top their X08 achievements ?

2010-07-16 11:14
Scout

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Some news/info about beds was posted in the news section of the X2010 site.
Be sure you read it!

http://www.scs-trc.net/x2010/news.html

To stay up to date about X2010 news it's also possible to follow us on twitter: http://twitter.com/xparty
2010-07-17 15:34
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wtf @ #315 on the registration list... O.o

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2010-07-18 20:57
Pex Mahoney Tufvesson

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I guess I'm the one to blame for the new bed policy... I almost gave up on registering because of the previous phrasing about people signing up late.
Bad thing: You might not get a bed.
Good thing: I'll be there. I took your bed.
I hope the good things will well enough compensate for the bad things! ;)
2010-07-18 21:06
Hein

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Quote: I guess I'm the one to blame for the new bed policy... I almost gave up on registering because of the previous phrasing about people signing up late.
Bad thing: You might not get a bed.
Good thing: I'll be there. I took your bed.
I hope the good things will well enough compensate for the bad things! ;)


It's only a good thing if you bring data. Showing up is not enough, bed or no bed.
2010-07-18 22:05
Danzig

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Quote: I guess I'm the one to blame for the new bed policy... I almost gave up on registering because of the previous phrasing about people signing up late.
Bad thing: You might not get a bed.
Good thing: I'll be there. I took your bed.
I hope the good things will well enough compensate for the bad things! ;)


Nah, the bed policy is not that fresh of an idea.
2010-07-18 22:19
hollowman

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So, who's up for a little "just friends"-spooning ?
2010-08-06 13:16
Scout

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NEWSFLASH-NEWSFLASH-NEWSFLASH-NEWSFLASH

The band 6581 will perform at X-2010 !

6581 consists of Andreas Wallström (Morpheus/Flash Inc.), Eike Steffen (Romeo Knight/Red Sector Inc.), Anders Larsson
and newcomer Anton Johansson. They did their first live performance at Back in Time Live Stockholm 2008
and are really looking forward to play at X2010. Their set, which consists of songs like Game Over and Commando,
will without doubt satisfy any fan of SID music. Bring your recording devices!

You already know that there's a disk copying service (bring those disks!) but there's also a tape copying service this X offered by TCE/Hokuto Force!
So bring those tape originals you want to preserve (and/or share).

For more (previous) news: http://www.scs-trc.net/x2010
Or follow us at Twitter: https://twitter.com/xparty
2010-08-06 13:57
Mr. SID

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\o/
2010-08-06 18:43
JackAsser

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Quote: So, who's up for a little "just friends"-spooning ?

Count me in! :P
2010-08-06 19:17
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I'll probably be bringing my tapes over then. I don't care who takes them, but I don't need them back. I've only kept them all these years because I know there's some people that would likely kill me if I threw them away and/or dubbed music over them ;_)

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2010-08-06 19:26
chatGPZ

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Quote:
You already know that there's a disk copying service (bring those disks!) but there's also a tape copying service this X offered by TCE/Hokuto Force!
So bring those tape originals you want to preserve (and/or share).


and countzero and me are going to dump cartridges... so bring your cartridges too! =)
2010-08-06 19:32
Grue

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Does anyone want old turbotape cassettes? I have box full of them waiting for me to decide what to do with them.. I dont want them back either ;)
2010-08-06 20:21
Angel of Death

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Quote: Does anyone want old turbotape cassettes? I have box full of them waiting for me to decide what to do with them.. I dont want them back either ;)

Yo!
I'm interested in any originals. (or copies of originals. or if it fits in my car, together with the disk-boxes I'm bringing, I'll take the lot)
I will be at x-2010 all three days...
2010-08-06 20:24
macx

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Quote: Count me in! :P

\o/
2010-08-07 01:36
Jazzcat

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Bring your C64 scene paper mags for me to scan! (Illegal, CCCP, Business, Gridpoint Observer etc etc) check WANTED on http://mags.c64.org for a complete list.
2010-08-09 07:39
Rough
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Bad news. I might not be able to go to X2010, because I'll be in hospital for the next months. I try to get some free days off to go to Holland, but probably health insurance will say no to a short holiday trip. Usually German insurances only allow one day off when you are in-patient else they say that you arent sick.

I'll talk to the doctors when I'm in the hospital if there's a chance to solve the problem and if not, fuck them, I'll go anyway.

By the way is the entrace fee to be paid in advance or in cash when entering?
2010-08-09 07:57
Sander

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Quote: Bad news. I might not be able to go to X2010, because I'll be in hospital for the next months. I try to get some free days off to go to Holland, but probably health insurance will say no to a short holiday trip. Usually German insurances only allow one day off when you are in-patient else they say that you arent sick.

I'll talk to the doctors when I'm in the hospital if there's a chance to solve the problem and if not, fuck them, I'll go anyway.

By the way is the entrace fee to be paid in advance or in cash when entering?


Hope you're ok! Sounds serious :/
2010-08-09 08:36
Steppe

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You pay in cash at the entrance. Get well soon, Adam!
2010-08-09 10:47
TDJ

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I'll be missing out as well: I'll be in Turkey on a company holiday.
2010-08-10 08:03
Jazzcat

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TDJ: the company? Do they make good demos? if not - come to X...
2010-08-10 08:40
TDJ

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Quote: TDJ: the company? Do they make good demos? if not - come to X...

It just so happens that we have demos every week - part of the Scrum methodology we're using ;) There is a serious lack of sid-dancing though.

There is a (very) small chance I'll skip the company holiday, depends on if I visit the SOA symposium in Berlin the Tuesday & Wednesday after the X, in which case Turkey is out for me. But I'll only go there if my first option (a masterclass starting later that week) won't go through.

Apart from that, I'm not really sure if I would visit X anyway - kinda lost touch with the scene lately. I'm at csdb more out of habit than out of interest.
2010-08-10 09:01
Skate

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@TDJ: Man, if you have chosen any other date interval for visiting Turkey, I'd like to meet you and show you hospitality. But I'll be at X with some other Turkish sceners. Ironic...
2010-08-10 23:06
Jazzcat

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You can get all the touch'ing you want at X Marco.
2010-08-11 06:15
TDJ

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@Skate: what's making it even more ironic is the fact that I once promised never to go for a holiday in Turkey again (went to Bitez in 2004, absolute disaster) but hey - this one's free, and we Dutch love us some free vacations!

@Jazzcat: that's what I'm afraid of. Too much touching, too few women doing the touching, no thanks.
2010-08-11 07:02
Skate

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@TDJ: Bodrum is a great place for vacation but Bitez is the worst choice. Me and my wife had a holiday there 4-5 years ago and it was terrible too (the hotel was empty, servise was bad etc.). Try "Kemer/Antalya" or "Fethiye" next time or come to Istanbul and visit Istiklal Street and Ortakoy seaside. I can be your guide if your want. I know the best and worst places to drink. It'd be your call. ;) I've done this a few times before for my foreign scener friends who wanted to visit Istanbul. They left here drunk and happy. :)
2010-08-11 08:49
Jazzcat

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TDJ: or you could just have a few beers and catch up with some people. Who knows? You might even enjoy yourself - no risk no fun.
2010-08-11 21:37
Count Zero

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Quote:
no risk no fun


is what _WE_ used to yell at you, hm, Jazzy? :)
2010-08-12 02:07
Jazzcat

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C0: oh yes, and I agreed. Just the "No.1" bit I had troubles with ;))
2010-08-17 07:34
Cresh

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I have just checked the list of registered participants.
Come on! Just two guys from Hungary want to come?!
Ok, Edhellon wants to come, too. That makes super nice coder trio... But...
Do something and bring more Magyars with you! :)
2010-08-18 10:22
Rough
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Get Mr.Wax to come, I'd like to have him next to me to have a serious talk, among all old friends.
2010-08-18 10:40
DaTucker

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I will definitely will be there! Really looking forward to the event and performances! I hope to meet and speak with some fellow C64-remixers there.
2010-08-18 12:26
Trap

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Wouldn't it be a good idea with an 'I'm going to X'2010' facebook group?
(I'm leaving it to the organizers to do it to avoid any confusion :))

Cheers

Trap
2010-08-18 12:36
cba

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Quote: Wouldn't it be a good idea with an 'I'm going to X'2010' facebook group?
(I'm leaving it to the organizers to do it to avoid any confusion :))

Cheers

Trap


Not everybody is on facebook, so that's why we ask the people who made a reservation to confirm it.

This worked great the last 5 X parties.
2010-08-18 19:00
Trap

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Well, I didn't mean for it to be a practical thing - just for fun.
2010-08-18 21:53
Perplex

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@Trap: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=308226730929
2010-08-19 07:28
macx

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Yep, that sure is funny (-:.
2010-08-19 13:06
Trap

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Awesome! thanks.
2010-08-19 13:35
maestro

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if anyone needs any floppies for music,gfx,demos or what ever then i have 13 boxes of brand new unopened 5 and quarters.if i can sell them to good homes then that would be really cool

anyway let me know if i need to bring them
2010-08-20 18:47
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So what's the easiest way from Eindhoven airport to the party place? Go out to the motorway and show some leg until the Swedish bus picks us up?
2010-08-20 19:51
Cresh

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1. TAXI? If you share it with 2 other guys, should not be that expensive.

2.

Walk to busstop 'Airport' in Eindhoven.
take Bus 401 destination Station NS. Get off at busstop 'Station NS' in Eindhoven.
take Bus 20 destination Helmond. Get off at busstop 'Kapelletje' in Someren.
Walk to 'De Hoof 18' in Someren. 16 minutes walktime.
Booze. ;)


http://journeyplanner.9292.nl/Default.aspx

http://www.oveindhoven.nl/index.htm

Maybe locals have some better ideas...


2010-08-20 20:11
cba

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Quote: So what's the easiest way from Eindhoven airport to the party place? Go out to the motorway and show some leg until the Swedish bus picks us up?

Just read what we have written down on the site.

http://www.scs-trc.net/x2010/contact.html

Take the train from Eindhoven to Heeze.

"A phone number will be published on this page some weeks before the party.
You can use it to announce that you'll need to be pick up from train station."

;)
2010-08-20 20:58
Stainless Steel

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Quoting Dane
show some leg
Now to see that, i would pay some hard earned money for :-D
2010-08-21 09:03
Linus

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I wouldn´t :)
2010-08-30 13:04
cba

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For all of you coming by plane to Amsterdam on Friday.

There is a meet up at 13:00 in front of the GWK office
at Amsterdam Central Station.

We will take the train from 13:38 to the party, let me know
if you join in.

More info : http://www.scs-trc.net/x2010/contact.html

2010-08-30 13:28
macx

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Quote: For all of you coming by plane to Amsterdam on Friday.

There is a meet up at 13:00 in front of the GWK office
at Amsterdam Central Station.

We will take the train from 13:38 to the party, let me know
if you join in.

More info : http://www.scs-trc.net/x2010/contact.html



The Scandinavian and thus viking posse of myself, ZZAP69 and Devia will meet up with Aussie Jazzcat, Conjurer and ALiH for some Amsterdam berserk starting Wednesday morning. It is safe to assume that we will meet up with you fellow nerds on Friday.
2010-08-31 05:40
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I found out that the easiest was to cancel. Sorry.
2010-08-31 07:41
Stainless Steel

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Quoting Geir
I found out that the easiest was to cancel. Sorry.
Oh come on Geir you got to be kidding!
2010-08-31 08:46
Jazzcat

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Geir: WTF?
2010-08-31 08:50
Skate

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after not being able to find my passport at home lately, finally my new passport arrived today. it was a real headache for me which is solved now. if nothing unexpected happens, i'll be there.
2010-08-31 09:27
Cresh

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Geir, hvis du kommer ikke firebrigade fra Oslo voldta du!
2010-08-31 09:57
Devia

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Quoting Geir
I found out that the easiest was to cancel. Sorry.

aaaaw, c'mon.. it's cheap! only NOK 2292,- takeoff at 08:15 friday, home again 14:55 sunday
still.. it IS easier to cancel.
2010-08-31 22:32
SIDWAVE
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I want to hold hands with CBA, Morpheus and Jeroen Tel, dancing merrily around in a circle to "Rasputin" by Rob Hubbard.
2010-09-01 12:00
Stone

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Don't worry, Geir will come. He just doesn't know it yet.

(Note to self: Install soundproofing in car trunk)
2010-09-01 13:38
Mace

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It might be easiest to cancel, but life doesn't always have to be easy!

Growth comes from hardship (did I hear anybody say HardSID?).
2010-09-01 15:26
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@Devia. Which flight was this? I couldn't find any decent times for travelling. Norwegian flies 19:05 from Oslo friday evening to Amsterdam. Then train. I wouldn't be there until 0:00 at night at the party. Then return is very late on Sunday (21:00 or something). Ryan Air have no flights on friday, and return not until tuesday!! Privately I don't know yet if I can manage to travel cos of 1. studying, or 2. a new job? suddenly showing up one of these days.

@Stein. You've bought tickets behind my back? :D
2010-09-01 15:32
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Quote: Geir, hvis du kommer ikke firebrigade fra Oslo voldta du!

LOL. Nice one. You used google translate? hehe.
2010-09-01 16:26
SIDWAVE
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As I know my big little bro, he never use google translate :)
2010-09-01 16:50
Cresh

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Yea. I am half Norwegian. ;)

When going to X, do consider Duesseldorf or Dortmund airports, too.
It is just 1,5 h of driving to the partyplace.
But you have to rent a car - ca. EUR 80,- for 3 days (have 3 more guys and it is so cheap!!) or ask some nice German guys to pick you up.

There's convenient Oslo-Gardermoen - Dusseldorf connection operated by Norwegian.

Book your flight or firebrigade really comes. ;]
2010-09-01 19:58
PAL

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Offence will be there too... we have booked flights and all... we will party in amsterdam for 2 days and then come to the party place, so be gentle with us... Will be so fun to be on a party of a bit larger scale again... Love it!
2010-09-01 20:39
Devia

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Quoting Geir
@Devia. Which flight was this?

SK821 to Amsterdamn and SK822 back. SAS booking via kilroy travels. From Amsterdamn it's a 2 hour trainride, iirc?
Price just went up to NOK 2847,-

In the future use momondo.com for flight searches.. be specific about searches and check out the low price agencies who don't appear in the search results (there are links to them at the very end of the search results) - oh, and be ready to book.. cheap flights are only cheap for a very short time ;-)
If it's too much of a jungle, call my wife at have her fix you a flight.. it'll cost you an oil-rig, but the service!? ...damn!

2010-09-01 21:35
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Can a dutch guy tell me how to get from Dusseldorf (DUS) airport to Someren? Is this airport the main one in Dusseldorf by the way? Is there some connection with trains to Venlo, then a taxi perhaps from Venlo to Someren (I see it ain't far away). Then I can avoid going to Eindhoven first. Is there some dutch guy that can pick me up at Dusseldorf, then drive me back on Sunday for the 14:45 flight? :P
2010-09-01 21:50
PAL

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Geir... dahhh.... why do you not come to amsterdam first and hang out with us... it will be fun... we take train from there... 1.5 hour or so...
2010-09-01 21:54
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Quote: Geir... dahhh.... why do you not come to amsterdam first and hang out with us... it will be fun... we take train from there... 1.5 hour or so...

Amsterdam is full of sex stores, hookers, lots of robbery, lol. Not safe when I come. :D
Can't stay for that many days PAL.
2010-09-01 22:00
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None going to X that is from Dusseldorf area?
2010-09-01 22:06
Cruzer

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The Düsseldorf route seems like a good idea. It's both cheaper to fly there (at least from Copenhagen) than Amsterdam/Rotterdam, and car rental seems cheaper in Germany than the Netherlands too.
2010-09-01 22:08
PAL

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We will just have a good time with some nice dinners and drinking and puffing.

Will be great at x.... next wedensday I hold a meltdown again... please com if you want...
2010-09-01 22:15
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Quote: The Düsseldorf route seems like a good idea. It's both cheaper to fly there (at least from Copenhagen) than Amsterdam/Rotterdam, and car rental seems cheaper in Germany than the Netherlands too.


It's not about the money. I'm quite rich at the moment. :)
Even though, it seems less hassle with Dusseldorf, as it goes better flight routes than Eindhoven (which by the way don't go to the main airport in Oslo, but Dussel does). It only cost NOK 995 by the way to Dusseldorf, Totally! Amsterdam flights has no good time schedules left that fits, and it is quite expensive "just" for this gathering.

@PAL. You're not dutch, my questions gets lost here. Call me instead, or walk to me, you're just 10-15 mins away from my flat. And when I come to think of it, you haven't been in my flat yet. lol
2010-09-01 22:21
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In Oslo we have something called "Pirate taxi". Isn't this common in da netherlands? :P
2010-09-01 23:13
Cruzer

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Quote:
It's not about the money. I'm quite rich at the moment. :)
Well, I'm not, so that's why it sounded like a good idea ;)
2010-09-01 23:33
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Seems like I'm joining in with PAL and Stein and the gang. Norwegian flies quite late evening, but taking a vacation for a couple of days, staying at hotel in Amsterdam, it will work out. The flight is cheap aswell, NOK 1205 totally.
2010-09-02 06:44
Devia

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lol.. why don't you guys meet up with us for a beer then ;-)
2010-09-02 07:20
Perplex

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Quoting Geir
Seems like I'm joining in with PAL and Stein and the gang.


\o/
2010-09-02 08:53
Oswald

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some more info on train eind-> heeze please ? is there a bus from eindh to the train station ? seems like there's two trainstations at eindhoven, which one should one take? etc :) also I'll be at 08:00 at eindhoven, maybe something thats worth watching there? is there an exhibit at evoluon?
2010-09-02 09:03
cba

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Quote: some more info on train eind-> heeze please ? is there a bus from eindh to the train station ? seems like there's two trainstations at eindhoven, which one should one take? etc :) also I'll be at 08:00 at eindhoven, maybe something thats worth watching there? is there an exhibit at evoluon?

Why would you want to take a bus from Eindhoven to Heeze when you can simply take the train ?

(If you really want, check : http://journeyplanner.9292.nl/)

You have to leave from the main train station called Eindhoven, the other smaller one is called Eindhoven Beukenlaan.

http://www.ns.nl/cs/Satellite/travellers for more info.

Contact Hein or Bordeaux for more info about Eindhoven, they live there.

2010-09-02 10:15
Cresh

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Oswald, if you want to get from the airport to the midtown (and central station - Eindhoven Station NS),
take bus no. 401.
6/7 buses per hour. Easy as 1, 2, 3.

Timetable:
http://www.oveindhoven.nl/EhvAirport.htm

Maybe you can take a ride with tram on tyres - Phileas (like Phileas Fogg).
I do not know if they are back. Google for more. :)
2010-09-02 11:11
Oswald

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Sorry I ment airport -> trainstation bus, but cresh has answered that one. thanks :)
2010-09-02 11:27
Oxbow

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Here's the official tourist information site for Eindhoven:
http://www.vvveindhoven.nl/en/things-to-do/museums-en-art
2010-09-03 07:55
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Plane tickets: OK
Hotel: OK

Staying at Chic(ks) & Basic hotel in Amsterdam from the 29th till 1st. and making the streets in Amster unsafe.
2010-09-03 08:02
cba

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;-)
2010-09-03 08:42
Intensity
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Ok guys, now there comes teh ultimate begging shit...

Is there anybody who could lend me 100-120 EUR for X? I would pay it back in rates by 20 EUR steps for a month.

I also would have a chance to drive with Raze/Padua maybe, have to ask Steppe if he comes too, and if he can pick me up.

Otherwise I will probably not be present. And well, i never was on any X so far :(

Thanks!
2010-09-03 10:11
Stone

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@Geir: Great, now we'll see you running around the red light district screaming "EGKD!" ;-)
2010-09-03 13:08
Morpheus

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Quote: I want to hold hands with CBA, Morpheus and Jeroen Tel, dancing merrily around in a circle to "Rasputin" by Rob Hubbard.

I will be on stage playing, but there will be a nice track for you to dance to! We can hold hands during the demo compo if you want.
2010-09-03 13:16
Sander

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Quote: I will be on stage playing, but there will be a nice track for you to dance to! We can hold hands during the demo compo if you want.

:)
2010-09-03 18:45
PAL

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Devia: we will be in Amsterdam... so yes... just pm me and we can call you when we are there...
2010-09-03 20:28
6R6

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I will arrive at Amsterdam Schiphol 15:20 on friday, and will jump on the first train to Heeze. I guess I need travel support from there.
2010-09-05 01:46
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Quote: @Geir: Great, now we'll see you running around the red light district screaming "EGKD!" ;-)

Mangler bare Einar nå. Hehe. ;)
2010-09-05 11:31
SIDWAVE
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Quote: Mangler bare Einar nå. Hehe. ;)

If you take Geir to the redlight district, his dick will fall off!
2010-09-05 13:19
cba

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Quote: I will arrive at Amsterdam Schiphol 15:20 on friday, and will jump on the first train to Heeze. I guess I need travel support from there.


As always a number will be posted a week or so before the party that you can use to get picked up from the train station.
2010-09-09 12:47
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Got a hotel confirmation from "Basic Chicks" Hotel Amsterdam as Mr. Geir Tjilte. Looks like I'm going undercover. Da-Da.
2010-09-09 15:12
ptoing

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Probably not gonna make it this year :/
2010-09-09 15:45
Sander

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Quote: Probably not gonna make it this year :/

That's a real shame :(
2010-09-14 13:47
BLiTZ

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Hi There.

Is there any Danes who are driving to X-2010, that have an empty seat i can take, i will offcause pay for fuel and whatsoever.

Thomas - BLiTZ / 2000 AD
2010-09-14 21:15
Morpheus

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Hey guys, I got a picture for the graphics compo. How do I convert it to an executeable C64 file the easiest way?
2010-09-15 02:15
SIDWAVE
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Learn to code ? rip ? :)

What format is it ?
If you mail me, i can make an exe

If its secret, be sure what format it is, and i can send the code
2010-09-15 06:27
MagerValp

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For fuck's sake: Executable Image Release 2
2010-09-15 06:51
Scout

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What MagerValp said. Or even better: KoalaLinker V0.1 [win/dos/linux/macosx]

:)
2010-09-15 16:57
MagerValp

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And if you're using a graphics mode that isn't supported by r2, I have an unreleased version 3 that supports a bunch more formats and things like FLI with FLI bug colors. No one seems to be using xi though, so I haven't bothered releasing it.
2010-09-17 18:12
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Will be driving from Stuttgart, there's room in the car if someone's still without transportation.
2010-09-17 20:28
ptoing

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Heya Tape, I might still be going after all. And Stuttgart is not too far from Freiburg, so I could jet there by train on the 30th I guess, if I could stay at your place for the night.
2010-09-17 21:20
Tape
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ptoing, answered in mail.
2010-09-17 21:29
ptoing

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replied by mail. haha
2010-09-19 10:27
Madhead

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would be great if organizers take quality video recordings of compos. so we, unlucky people can atleast see the atmosphere, crowd reactions, etc...
2010-09-20 14:35
Stainless Steel

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Heyall,

My ride to X2010 (Raze) just informed me that he wont be going and now i'm left with no means of transportation.

Anyone able to give me a lift from Frankfurt ?

2010-09-20 15:46
Dane
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Quote: would be great if organizers take quality video recordings of compos. so we, unlucky people can atleast see the atmosphere, crowd reactions, etc...

Good idea. I think the internet will break in half if someone uploads a quality video recording of Hollowman spooning. Let's wait and see!
2010-09-20 17:17
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Quote: Heyall,

My ride to X2010 (Raze) just informed me that he wont be going and now i'm left with no means of transportation.

Anyone able to give me a lift from Frankfurt ?



What about going by train to Kleve and I´ll catch you there?
2010-09-20 20:45
Steppe

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Joe, as usual, we can drive by at some parking lot at the A3 and pick you up. Just let me know.
2010-09-21 10:13
Stainless Steel

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I would greatly appreciate that Stephan :-D.

But please, dont cram me in between the floppy drives,the monitors and under the beercases, my knees were killing me last time :-D
2010-09-21 11:45
SIDWAVE
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EXOMIZE him! then in a diskbox with him!!
(you can always unpack him later, Krill will help)
2010-09-22 05:20
Steppe

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It's a pretty comfy A4 this time, you won't have to share the back bench with our computer gear this time. It'll all fit in the trunk.
2010-09-22 05:54
Devia

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Quoting Steppe
It's a pretty comfy A4 this time, you won't have to share the back bench with our computer gear this time. It'll all fit in the trunk.

Yeah... arms, legs, heads... everything! It'll all fit in the trunk, no worries.
2010-09-22 10:55
Steppe

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Muahaha.
But Joe already survived the latest trip to X with us, I'm confident that we'll deliver him safe and sound this time too. And in one piece. :-)
2010-09-22 18:37
Frantic

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I guess you're all just bringing laptops anyway in these days, so... ;)
2010-09-22 19:04
Count Zero

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..and cartridges, manuals and such I hope :)
2010-09-23 09:29
Linus

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Quote: Muahaha.
But Joe already survived the latest trip to X with us, I'm confident that we'll deliver him safe and sound this time too. And in one piece. :-)


In case you´re crossing the A3 again I´ll take him from there and put him into the touring´s trunk.
2010-09-23 19:51
FATFrost
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Anyone from uk driving??
2010-09-24 07:42
booker
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Yes, in 5 but we're full now. Looking to rent people carrier eventually so it would be cheaper in 6. PM me. Leaving 6am on Friday from Oxted, going back around Sunday's midday.
2010-09-25 08:37
macx

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It is now only a few days left until the Viking berserkers merge with the Aussie forces in the morally deprived and whore infested township of Amsterdam. The continental Europeans tremble out of fear.

Me, Devia and ZZAP69 will meet up with Jazzcat, ALiH and Conjuror on Wednesday morning. The Pan-Scandinavian Thule posse will be reinforced as Norwegians will join the Nordic + Southern Cross Legion later the same day.

Another chapter will have to be written: http://www.theancientweb.com/explore/content.aspx?content_id=38

Either Valhalla or X. Forward men, forward!
2010-09-25 14:32
SIDWAVE
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Quote: It is now only a few days left until the Viking berserkers merge with the Aussie forces in the morally deprived and whore infested township of Amsterdam. The continental Europeans tremble out of fear.

Me, Devia and ZZAP69 will meet up with Jazzcat, ALiH and Conjuror on Wednesday morning. The Pan-Scandinavian Thule posse will be reinforced as Norwegians will join the Nordic + Southern Cross Legion later the same day.

Another chapter will have to be written: http://www.theancientweb.com/explore/content.aspx?content_id=38

Either Valhalla or X. Forward men, forward!


who has made that crap page ?

the picture of gorm the old, is actually holger danske... jesus!!
2010-09-25 18:33
Mace

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Quoting Steppe
It's a pretty comfy A4 this time (...)

I actually made sure that I'd have a new car too, before going to X.
Instead of a Corsa, it's an Astra stationwagon this time ;-)
(Filled with hardware that is for sale)
2010-09-25 19:54
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What beer is it gonna be... Grolsch, Pitt...? How's taxfree alcohol prices in amsterdam airport compared to the regular stores? You all know that a bottle of vodka costs a "billion dollars" in Norway. :)
2010-09-25 20:15
Cresh

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Booze at Schiphol's 'duty free' is quite cheap:

http://www.schiphol.nl/Travellers/ShopRelax/AfterPassportContro..

And they have huge selection.

I assume you want to bring a bottle or two back to Norway?
Grab some good whiskey.


Other prices at AMS should be +/- like in here:
http://www.dutyfree.de/
2010-09-25 20:24
macx

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Quoting Cresh
Grab some good whiskey.

Caol Ila. Single Malt Whisky.
2010-09-25 20:44
Frantic

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macx: Bring a bottle of that one for me too. I really like it. :)
2010-09-25 21:50
macx

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Quote: macx: Bring a bottle of that one for me too. I really like it. :)

I can really recommend the Cask Strength version. Beats everything in my collection.
2010-09-25 22:38
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Single Malt Scotch and some cigars please.


ALL:

** I collect Phantom and Conan comics, so if anyone has any they can give away (especially if they are in foreign languages - please bring!).

** If you can't be bothered scanning or mailing me your "scene" paper mags that are missing on http://mags.c64.org then please bring them (I will take them back with me, scan and then snail-mail back).


See ya all soon for some sweaty data-boy spooning...

2010-09-26 10:44
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 75
I'm going to X2010, starting from Hannover. Someone to pick up on the way? Just msg me.
2010-09-26 12:39
Conjuror

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 168
I'm flying in from London.

I have some sway with the captain, so maybe a spot near the landing gear :D
2010-09-28 09:19
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487
For those who are in Amsterdam prior to the X - please email or pm me.
We'll have a meetup on wednesday and thursday - so if you're interested, lemme know.
2010-09-28 13:46
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Anybody arriving in Rotterdam/Hoek van Holland by boat or plain on Friday afternoon?
2010-09-28 20:18
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
when do shuttle service start ? I'll bore my ass off in eindhoven from 08:00 :)
2010-09-28 20:27
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
Oswald! \o/
2010-09-28 21:32
DaTucker

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 23
Just 2 days until the party starts!

I'm ready for it. I've selected several C64-remixes, old and new electro and house/dance tracks and prepared my gear for the gig. Unfortunately my DJ-controller came up with a little technical problem last weekend so I'm crossing my fingers and hope that it won't let me down during my DJ-set on Friday...

See you at the party!

2010-09-29 04:51
SIDWAVE
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"Murdock.. ... I'm coming to get YOU!"
2010-09-29 07:37
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
"The 2nd Battalion was at Kud Sank."
2010-09-29 07:43
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
"Mission... accomplished."
2010-09-29 14:04
6R6

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 244
Anyone bringing a synth/keyboard with midi connections to X 2010 ?
2010-09-29 15:10
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
I could do that, do you need a c64 midi interface to test aswell?
2010-09-29 15:40
FATFrost
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Have a good time party dudes!!!!

I might come to a party one day.................
2010-09-29 17:38
6R6

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 244
Quote: I could do that, do you need a c64 midi interface to test aswell?

Hi Linus, yes, will you ? We could do some sid jamming. :) Are you bringing a c64 aswell ?
2010-09-29 20:15
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
I could bring one with me :) Are you going to bring a mixer/speakers then? =)
2010-09-29 21:52
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 102
For us who couldn't make it there...

Will there be any kind of a video broadcast ??
2010-09-30 05:55
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
Quote: For us who couldn't make it there...

Will there be any kind of a video broadcast ??


No, only radio, check http://scenesat.com/
2010-09-30 09:45
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568
Remember: TODAY is the LAST DAY to mail your graphics and/or demo entries!!!1one
2010-09-30 10:16
6R6

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 244
Quote: I could bring one with me :) Are you going to bring a mixer/speakers then? =)

I can bring some small speakers. See PM.
2010-09-30 15:08
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 490
in less than 12 hours, i'll be flying to X together with 3 Glance members. \o/
2010-09-30 15:50
SIDWAVE
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My compo tune is now done, except one thing...
the pulse lead program is not right.... want to get a special feeling into it that could take all night to find.. argh! :)
2010-09-30 18:11
Fanta

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 26
i reckon you'll fail. :-D
2010-09-30 19:10
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 453
in less than 2 hours, we'll be going to X by car, via Szczecin: Lolita, Jammer, Jericho, Psycho and my humble self. wish us safe journey, and see ya there!
2010-10-03 16:00
Intruder/Remember
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Back from the party! After 14 Years I visited a X-Party again and have to thank you guys for this great event.
2010-10-03 16:54
Wile Coyote

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 637
Quote: Back from the party! After 14 Years I visited a X-Party again and have to thank you guys for this great event.

That must have been X'96
Time sure flys..
2010-10-03 19:19
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
I see the nordic people ruled the demo compo. ;)
2010-10-03 19:44
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886
And finally all the official results!

C-VOTE Results

Graphics                                             score
 1. 25 Years of Yie Are Kung Fu / Veto               8.884
 2. Must Ache the Moustache / Duce                   8.500
 3. D.Y.M. / Bimber                                  8.437
 4. Dislocate / Deev                                 8.238
 5. Blood Vanilla / Louis64                          8.047
 6. Still Waiting / Carrion                          7.954
 7. Dreamlands Gate / Yazoo                          7.777
 8. 5.7 / Oxidy                                      7.722
 9. Gollum / SIT                                     7.700
10. Tiger / Electric                                 7.312
11. Erdkonig / Twoflower                             7.187
12. Demoscene Logo / Sander                          6.941
13. Mental Fall / Frost                              6.916
14. Mrs. Murphy / Sphinx                             6.833
15. Captain Nino's Show / Riskej                     6.800
16. Ancient City / Kacuk                             6.750
17. Tv Hoofd / Harlequin                             6.636
18. Boeser Alter Mann / Zeldin                       6.562
19. Dragon / Miras                                   6.466
20. Scull / Scarab                                   6.437
21. Cyborg / Almighty God                            6.357
22. Hires or Die / Wackee                            6.352
23. Don't Turn / Ooz-Agenda                          6.250
24. Headgear / Motion                                6.222
25. Addicted to Addicted to C64 / Raven              6.142
25. Headache / Ptoing                                6.142
27. Woe Baby You're A Nag / UKA                      6.000
28. Dragontamer / Grass                              5.800
29. Flying Dragon / Joodas                           5.750
30. Pixellicker / Hedning                            5.538
31. Elephant's Nipples / Leming                      5.363
32. Witchblade / Warp8                               5.250
33. Ride to Earth / Camper                           5.153
34. Taking Care / MRC                                5.000
35. Batman / JSL                                     4.866
36. Flow / Lolita                                    4.666
37. Mushroom Chief / YLE                             4.000
38. Painted Live @ X / Sebaloz                       3.500

Music                                                score
 1. Bored Teenagers, Expensive Shoes / Randall       8.500
 2. Evolver / Jeff                                   8.368
 3. X "Jazz" / Booker                                8.000
 4. Stormy City / Fieserwolf                         7.769
 5. Manky The Toilet Warrior / SounDemon             7.615
 6. 8580 Doped Pigs / Linus                          7.600
 7. F00king DMC / Psycho8580                         7.500
 8. 242 / Conrad                                     7.400
 9. X-2010 / Klax                                    7.307
10. Exten-sified / -V-                               7.187
11. Golem / Wackee                                   7.153
12. Hold The Line / Stainless Steel                  6.875
13. Richard Bayliss Is Not Here / Radiantx           6.857
14. Aluminum / Ole Marius Pettersen                  6.833
15. I'm Telling Ya / Jammer                          6.789
16. Octavarium / Kordiaukis                          6.750
17. Wafadrive in 101 / ZZap69                        6.727
18. Oceans of Niburu / Intensity                     6.600
19. Inception / Jan Harries                          6.411
20. Elephant's Huge Nipples / Leming                 6.222
21. Finding A Way Back Home / Bordeaux               6.000
22. I Don't Care / Knoekie                           5.666
23. Tainted 8bit / Zenox                             5.272
24. X Jingle / Trurl                                 5.111

Demos                                                score
 1. Another Beginnin / Offence                       8.921
 2. We Are New / Fairlight                           8.850
 3. Mekanix / Booze Design + Instinct                8.756
 4. Cubase64 / Mahoney                               8.305
 5. Frighthof / Arsenic                              7.633
 6. Portal / Lepsi + Miracles                        7.161
 7. The Year We Make Contact / Onslaught             5.923
 8. Exotic Excitement / Camelot                      5.909
 9. Pigametrics / SLP                                5.625
10. Fu Chen / API                                    4.625
11. 16 Years Metalvotze / Metalvotze                 4.590
12. Topless / Abyss-Connection                       4.285
13. Chanel No 64 / Arise                             4.000
14. It's Cold / ROLE                                 3.777
15. Meatthing / Metalvotze                           3.578
2010-10-03 20:38
bepp

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 263
Wow! What a great event this was! Many many thanks to all the arrangers! So many nice people, so much creativity, so much beer... So much FUN! Good compos throughout! This is a big inspiration and a vitamin injection to the scene. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to X2012!!!
2010-10-03 21:21
booker
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Outstanding!!!!!!!!!oneone111234
2010-10-04 00:15
SIDWAVE
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It has begun
2010-10-04 03:19
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Quote: It has begun

And ended. Wish it wouldn't have had to end though. ;) What a blast!

My only complaint to the otherwise flawless job by the orgas is the bigscreen, which wasn't very big, and most importantly not very C64 friendly. Usually things look a lot better on a projector, since they have a nice blurry effect, but on this one you could clearly see each pixel like a rectangular lego brick. It looked just like Vice in double size without PAL emulation. Maybe it would have helped to just unfocus it a bit?
2010-10-04 06:36
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Quoting WVL
C-VOTE Results


Wow, C-Vote worked for you? Congrats :) We haven't managed to use it for a few years here...
2010-10-04 07:09
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886
Quote: Quoting WVL
C-VOTE Results


Wow, C-Vote worked for you? Congrats :) We haven't managed to use it for a few years here...


Ehr.. why wouldnt it work? Are there mysterious problems and was I just lucky? (I did test it a lot before using it, though..)

The only nagging thing is the 16 entry limit, so this time we had to divide the gfx over 3 categories and manually resort the results into one big category.
2010-10-04 07:14
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Whatever happened to keeping the music compo anonymous ?
2010-10-04 08:00
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487


Didn't get a t-shirt?
Send me a PM or email, i can supply you some file to take to your local print shop. (or possibly we could do a reprint, much depends on the number of requests).

Otherwise, a great (!) party, as always - thanks a million to the organisers and the other visitors. It was great meeting you all again.
2010-10-04 08:31
SIDWAVE
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Thanks for a great party to all, and to the organizers to making us all able to feel like one big family.

And now the nagging part:

This didnt go so well as the other times, several problems:

Self service at beer bar: result = chaos, mess, missing opener tools, no cold beer, at times no beers at all to get.
Toilets, no paper, basement filled with smoke making people sick because staying there in all that hash and having to stand up..

Kitchen: placing food handout at a counter with only room for 3 people, who then mindlessly stand in cue for 45 minutes to get something, instead of placing the stuff on a big table so 20 people can be served on same time...

If compos cannot be made in upper main hall, i dont think this place is usable. i understand you wanted to make x bigger, with more visitors, but then this basement is fail, as there is not enough room, for 200+ people.

Bitching over, its still the 2nd best party ever, the x2008 was in my mind the best ever and is hard to top :D
2010-10-04 08:35
SIDWAVE
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Note: for 80 euro i feel entitled to nag. at a typical swedish party in a fucked up party place with an extreme low entry fee, i dont say anything, because i dont expect to get anything, since its so cheap.. :)
2010-10-04 08:47
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
Quote: Thanks for a great party to all, and to the organizers to making us all able to feel like one big family.

And now the nagging part:

This didnt go so well as the other times, several problems:

Self service at beer bar: result = chaos, mess, missing opener tools, no cold beer, at times no beers at all to get.
Toilets, no paper, basement filled with smoke making people sick because staying there in all that hash and having to stand up..

Kitchen: placing food handout at a counter with only room for 3 people, who then mindlessly stand in cue for 45 minutes to get something, instead of placing the stuff on a big table so 20 people can be served on same time...

If compos cannot be made in upper main hall, i dont think this place is usable. i understand you wanted to make x bigger, with more visitors, but then this basement is fail, as there is not enough room, for 200+ people.

Bitching over, its still the 2nd best party ever, the x2008 was in my mind the best ever and is hard to top :D


Have another beer jan and organise something yourself ok.
2010-10-04 09:19
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
To all of you, I have forgotten my X orga t-shirt, contact me please if you have found it!.
2010-10-04 09:21
cavey

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 68
Jan, stop bitching. For 80 euro's you get a shitload of free beer, food and a sleepingplace to boot!

Considering the logistical sides of things: it kinda sucked bigtime to have the fridges either in the bunker, or the kitchen. So transparting crates of beer all the time kinda sucked. Maybe next time we should rent some fridges orso to keep the beers cool. Then again, with 200 beer hungry sceners, the beer doesn't really have time to get chilled anywasy :P No matter what we throw at it (even using the deepfreezer to get things going!)

About the kitchen: yeah, that could have been done better, and yes, mainly there were sceners just hogging the line waiting for whatever "yes, it takes 10 minutes for the other stuff to be heated up enough to be ready for serving"... and they just keep waiting for 10 minutes >_< Come on guys, just walk a couple of more times. You've handed in your food voucher anyways, so basically it's an all you can eat :P

Btw, using a large table for food handout doesn't really work that well when there's not enough seating available, nor plates'n'stuff :)

So Jan, do like CBA said: drink another beer and organise your own party with
a) food included
b) beer included
c) sleeping place included
d) big ass soundsystem
e) 200+ people possible

and try to keep the price down...... good luck!

Oh, and don't forget: first time new venue, always bound to have some logistical issues with everybody getting used to the new setup.
2010-10-04 09:27
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Haha.. yes.. If you managed to use C-Vote entirely without problems then there was probably at least a bit of luck involved. This is not to complain at C-Vote, because it has certainly been very useful on the BFPs and LCPs where we used it, but there is at least one or a few bugs in there which would have to be fixed before I would dare to use it at LCP again. :)

Last LCP we used another system that I coded myself. It is similar from the voter's point of view, but a bit more "basic" from the votesheet generator's point of view. The entries are entered directly in the source code instead of via a tool, and then the vote sheet program is generated directly by the assembler instead.

By the way.. How many visitors turned up at X in the end?
2010-10-04 10:20
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227
hey... this party was really awesome. and i dont really want to complain - it was just great and i will be back in 2 years for sure (i hope there will be an X)...

about what jan said... its not totally wrong in a few points (kitchen). but with the beer it worked all quite well for me.

my main-problem was, that there was just one machine for coffee which i needed quite much. so i ended up just having a half coffee the whole party after waiting 30 minutes for it :-) a 2nd machine will solve that problem easy the next time i guess.
well, i survived it, but thats just a not so unimportant thing for the next one eventually since i heard some ppl complain about that.

i know its really hard to organize a party perfect with all that stuff (we tried hard for oxy-party) and you guys really did a great job with it.

what i also missed was a bit of data-feeling in the hall - because the big screen was downstairs in the somewhat small basement. with bad air. i would have enjoyed a demoshow or something in the mainhall but you cant have it all.

eventually another little improvement could be the prizegiving. you know - when you have worked your ass off you would just like to know the result you have made - also if you are not in the top3 - but not a big deal - since you uploaded them very fast on sunday.

dont get me wrong - i dont want to really complain - i just want to make a few suggestions for the next time.



and now for the positive things which is quite the most of it... so forget about the negatives i typed

- sound equipment was awesome
- biggest c64 only party (woa, 230 attendants - just great)
- great and friendly atmosphere
- very peaceful
- you did not run out of beer (!!!!!!!)
- enough parking space
- nice beds
- enough toilets
- friendly organizers
- our gps could find the partyplace (not so in hengelo)
- nice competitions with a good presentation
- lots of more positives - i cant just name them all...

in the end this was awesome - and i wish you never stop organizing these X-party series forever.
2010-10-04 10:30
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts:
The party was a blast, once more! For me the best ever, even though the bigscreen room in the basement was a bit small for all the people. Organisers, this time you were all constantly busy, running around, organising stuff. Really, your efforts are much appreciated, thank you so much! Greetings to everyone I had the pleasure to hang out with. Polish party posse, you rocked as usual, and thanks for the welcome sandwich!
2010-10-04 10:30
Tim

Registered: May 2003
Posts: 74
Quoting Jan Harries
Thanks for a great party to all, and to the organizers to making us all able to feel like one big family.

And now the nagging part:

This didnt go so well as the other times, several problems:

Self service at beer bar: result = chaos, mess, missing opener tools, no cold beer, at times no beers at all to get.
Toilets, no paper, basement filled with smoke making people sick because staying there in all that hash and having to stand up..

Kitchen: placing food handout at a counter with only room for 3 people, who then mindlessly stand in cue for 45 minutes to get something, instead of placing the stuff on a big table so 20 people can be served on same time...

If compos cannot be made in upper main hall, i dont think this place is usable. i understand you wanted to make x bigger, with more visitors, but then this basement is fail, as there is not enough room, for 200+ people.

Bitching over, its still the 2nd best party ever, the x2008 was in my mind the best ever and is hard to top :D


On behalve of the organisation of X2010:

Your right Jan, there is numerous room for improvement. We interpret your post as positive critisism from which we can learn a lot to organise an even better party in the future.

The main challenge this year was moving to a new party place. This was inevitable as we got complaints about the soundlevel and the limited amount of beds.

We didn't have any clue about how things would work out beforehand. This made X2010 the hardest party to organise and that took a lot of effort beforehand and afterwards.

Considering this we spoke with quite a lot of people and I was under the impression that the majority had a good time and that is what is most important to us.

We will take your remarks into consideration at the party evaluation.

2010-10-04 10:38
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Quoting WVL
Ehr.. why wouldnt it work? Are there mysterious problems and was I just lucky? (I did test it a lot before using it, though..)

I'm guessing the problems are related to the development branch that we've been using.

Quote:
The only nagging thing is the 16 entry limit, so this time we had to divide the gfx over 3 categories and manually resort the results into one big category.

There's an entry limit? That might be why we're using a later version then :)
2010-10-04 12:23
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833
What a bloody awesome party! \o/ That 8-10 hour journey has definitely paid off! :D
Thanks everyone for the great times !!
2010-10-04 13:12
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
The party rocked! Pulling off something like that on a new venue was extremely well done, period. Never you mind the naysayers. Hugs to CBA, Tim and the rest of the friendly staff who never got too busy for a chat and a joke. And to quote the speaker: give it UP, y'all!
2010-10-04 14:33
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Was the compo schedule eventually followed, or did the compo take longer time than planned? Interested here from an LCP point of view. :)
2010-10-04 14:40
SIDWAVE
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Tim, thanks for seeing my nag as 'evaluation' and thats really just what i mean to do.

CBA, saying "do it better yourself or shut up" - take a course in receiving critics Niels :D

Yes, i do want to orga a party, located in Denmark.
We dont have one for many many years, and we should, with the historic legacy that dk scene has... really

I guess i just have to throw aboard all my concerns about north of dk people not coming, and south too.

Why dont more swedes go to holland, and why are there no south people in swedish parties, so my concern is, will people travel as long for dk as they are willing to for X ?

So its better to just forget these "oh no, will they come ?", and move it up to realizing level, and just give it a try.

More on this in spring 2011..
2010-10-04 14:43
SIDWAVE
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If anyone has ALL X releases in a zip i would like.. clicking all those links to dl it all seems an overwhelming task for me.. a virus has taken me over in the train home and i am now fucking sick..
2010-10-04 15:19
TPM

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 109
@jan: So you have enough time to download all releases, ZIP them and post the ZIP here ;)
2010-10-04 15:20
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833
Regarding the venue...

I personally thought there was nothing wrong with the organisation, especially when it comes to moving the party to a new location.

There were the odd minor problems. The amount of beds were very limited and I ended up sleeping on the floor because of it (though the vodka helped the pain ;)) There was also a shortage of coffee sometimes, but that was obviously due to not knowing the amount of visitors at the party.
Finally, the power consumption did cause a few trips on the electricity (at least on the desks where I was)... though this always happens I guess... the same happened at Silesia 4.

Apart from that, it was a great demoparty! Lots of beer/vodka, lots of data, lots of SID music, really friendly sceners! What more can you need?
2010-10-04 15:20
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
@Jan: I think there was actually a substantial number of non-Swedes at the last LCP. A guess is that around half of the visitors last time were non-swedes. ...possibly because the party was held in the very south of Sweden. So.. I don't think it is impossible to get some Scandinavians/Europeans to a .dk party (if the invitation/concept gives the right vibes. :)

Then again it might be better to go for a small scale party first, and let it grow gradually for a few years. Both for your own sake (getting a firm grip on the organizing part) and to be able to eventually fool enough people into showing up. :)
2010-10-04 17:39
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269
WHAT A GREAT PARTY!

THEY EVEN DID DRIVE US TO OUR HOTEL WHEN WE ARRIVED...

Very very good party... I kinda loved the basement underground vault place for the compo...
2010-10-04 17:40
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
Quote: If anyone has ALL X releases in a zip i would like.. clicking all those links to dl it all seems an overwhelming task for me.. a virus has taken me over in the train home and i am now fucking sick..

I just posted the graphics :

All GFX releases (ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64/Party/2010/X/X10_Graphics.zip)
2010-10-04 17:46
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
Quote: Tim, thanks for seeing my nag as 'evaluation' and thats really just what i mean to do.

CBA, saying "do it better yourself or shut up" - take a course in receiving critics Niels :D

Yes, i do want to orga a party, located in Denmark.
We dont have one for many many years, and we should, with the historic legacy that dk scene has... really

I guess i just have to throw aboard all my concerns about north of dk people not coming, and south too.

Why dont more swedes go to holland, and why are there no south people in swedish parties, so my concern is, will people travel as long for dk as they are willing to for X ?

So its better to just forget these "oh no, will they come ?", and move it up to realizing level, and just give it a try.

More on this in spring 2011..



You can take a lot of courses about other things ;)

Just skip X parties and go to professional ones in the future Jan, they probably suite you better.
2010-10-04 17:52
macx

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 250
An awesome party organised by a brilliant crew!

The new place is all in all much better than the one it has been held the past events. This for several reasons:

+ It can hold more people and thus more c64 nrrds can show up.
+ The house with the sleeping facilities is separated from the barn where the party is held, making grumpy geezers being able to get their beauty sleep.
+ The Someren place encourages outdoorsy activities. Together with the physical training that comes with über dancing, X might even be an event that is beneficial for the health of the common scener. Making sceners live longer will prolong the life of the c64 scene.
+ The main hall has more of a data party vibe.

However, obviously, some baby diseases are to expect:

- The downstairs area was !FAB! for the gigs (6581 rocks!), however it was less well suited for holding a looong compo. During compos people sit down and for this reason, and a few others, the main hall would be much better. I understand the problem of then having to have two separate sound systems, but if I had to choose I would rather the gigs had to compromise than the democompo.
- Lack of coffee error.
- When a R.I.P. Jerry of Triad picture appears on the big screen prior to the compos, a silent minute is expected, not "MEK SZOME NOISE YA'LL!!".

Together with the Nordic, Aussie and American pre-partying in Amsterdam this has been a helluva week. Now my liver needs some rest.

It deserves to be repeated: Fabulous effort and hard work by the organisers. I am thankful.
2010-10-04 18:40
The Communist

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 485
It was a brilliant party. A big big big thanks to the orga team. I had lots of fun and haven't been drunken like then for some time. Meeting the old folks again, some after more than 17 years was great too. To be honest, we still look as great as we did back in the early 90s. ;)

About the organization I do not want to complain at all. There are always things to improve anywhere, mistakes get done. But in the end most of it got solved. I hope that some of the dutch organizers think about their plan not to organize another x and let happen the next one latest in 2012.

But up to then I think there is a fucking big gap which has to be filled. I only hope that my expectations I could have on those parties won't be too high now. But in the end you can't comnpare apples with pears.
2010-10-04 18:41
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
X-2010 was great!
If I'd really have to nag it would be about... err... well...

There were enough beds, although during the first night I slept in a different bed than the second night. For the better, as Booker kept half the barn awake with his "sound track". Can't say the beds were a point of complaint.

The compos in the basement were long, and if it hadn't had a floor, I would have had to stand up... instead, I sat down on the floor. Standing on the other hand wasn't that bad, as I had been on my ass for the entire day already... nope, can't say I'd have to complain about it.

And standing in line for the food gave me the opportunity to talk to sceners I'd otherwise not have spoken. And the fresh air was welcome to. Nope, no complaints either.
Food was fine too, even the crappy shit-on-a-stick ;-)

Let's see, what's more...?
Oh, right, the shortage of coffee.
I don't drink coffee.

Ah, wait... the picnic bench gave me a sore ass.
Next time I'll bring a little pillow (or arrive earlier and get a spot with a proper chair).

Give it UP, y'all!
2010-10-04 18:49
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
Quote: The party rocked! Pulling off something like that on a new venue was extremely well done, period. Never you mind the naysayers. Hugs to CBA, Tim and the rest of the friendly staff who never got too busy for a chat and a joke. And to quote the speaker: give it UP, y'all!

+1
2010-10-04 19:27
Poeba
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Some X'2010 Party pics me and Axe made, enjoy!

www.art4people.nl/x2010
2010-10-04 19:28
SIDWAVE
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Quote:
You can take a lot of courses about other things ;)

Just skip X parties and go to professional ones in the future Jan, they probably suite you better.


Quite arrogant statement Niels..
You have organized 10 X parties, so i would call that quite professional..
2010-10-04 20:04
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
Awesome party. Much respects to the organizators for all the effort and heart put into making this a success :) You just secured yourselves some Polish regulars for the upcoming editions! ;) Of course there were minor glitches here and there, but who cares when the overall experience is so amazing. Thumbs up!
2010-10-04 21:37
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts:
Hah, blame the Booze Design guys for all that. Only since EoD people are used to a flawless presentation in every aspect and now they start complaining about "tiny bugs here and there", unnecessary flickering of screens due to unstable electricity rasters or something. But honestly, next time please get some proper Latte Macchiato for breakfast. I'm used to that for chrisssakes, I can't change habits so easily at my age anymore!!!11
2010-10-04 21:52
Sir Garbagetruck

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 8
Freaking _killer_ party.

Jan: I have an opener. Living in Finland, you learn after about 3 minutes of being on .fi soil that you need an opener AT ALL TIMES (: Find me if you can't find one. (Goes for anyone, but you know. (: )

Out of coffee error: next time I pack enough heavily caffeine laden tea. Then we just need hot water. (This works better than instant coffee, which, ugh what a horrible thought I think I'll think about good tea now...)

OK, at least one person who attended is saying they aren't going to go to ANY Dutch parties anymore because the attendees (NOT the organizers) wouldn't stop smoking even when asked repeatedly to stop.
Um, seriously, wtf, we're all supposed to enjoy this, and just like if one of your friends drinks too much you take care of 'em, you take care of the people who are nearby who can't breathe. I mean, move away or summat, or wait to smoke til you get thru with the compos, or shout for a bathroom break so we can do important personal things like beer or smoke or stuff. (I could seriously have used one, I went the entire demo compo without a beer cuz I wasn't gonna miss a damn minute of the compo in case something was THAT awesome. I normally solve this by just getting a case and handing 'em out to people around me during the compo, but I sort of wasn't able to do that AND bring a chair.) Seriously. Don't f*ck someone else's party over being a dick about stuff, people will see that you're a dick and no one needs that crap bringing them down during a party.

Now, we'll get thru the idea that it was just a one time thing, and that next time it's not gonna be an issue cuz you know, we'll be sure that it doesn't if they just hang with a larger group who doesn't smoke anyway during the compos, but still. Some people hate smoking and in an enclosed space it sucks, and we don't need a freaking rule or any of that crap to "enforce" it. Just be cool to everyone LIKE WE FREAKING ALWAYS DO.

You know, the whole "Be excellent to each other" stuff which always happens and is why even when shit goes all wrong, demoparties still kick ass. Because of people and just having everyone's back.

Oh, and, yeah, I can't stand up anymore after sitting on the floor for more than 10 minutes. And standing for long periods makes my feet go "will you sit the EFF down soon sheesh." I'm b0rk3d that way (shut up I'm only 6 mentally shut UP I am not old I'm b0rked.) So yeah, chairs for the compos gets my vote.

Anyway. Cripes what a freaking excellent party.
2010-10-05 06:33
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
All music releases ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64/Party/2010/X/X10_Music.zip
2010-10-05 07:33
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 675
Hell, we're all grown up and can handle smaller discomforts :)
Awesome party and personally I really liked the split between machine-hall and compo-floor.
That way I could actually talk to people upstairs!
And probably helped those that coded as well.
240 (+) people, only very few dead-drunk no riots I witnessed - man, that seems to be rare!!
Cudos and well done :)
2010-10-05 07:55
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 273
A very big thank you to all the orgas, it is a lot of stuff you have to do for the party to happen that you don't see when you are just a visitor.

Besides the fact that it was a bit troublesome to find a bed when you arrive late, as there were no signs/lists on the doors (no, I don't count permanent Edding stuff as a sign)everything was done to make it a cosy event.

You may say you had to wait for your coffee, ok that kind o sucks, but you could use the time to have a chat, maybe there is always stuff that could be done better, may the party cost 80 euros or just 5 euros. what really counts is, do you really need a 5 star hilton place to have a nice party?

The new location was fine, having 2 halls was very nice for chatting without the need to shout because some sid-rockers do their best to get the audience deff.

The only thing I never get are those idiots puking all over the toilet when there are just 2....

11/10 for partymood and coolness of the party 07/10 for the eating stuff (the dinner was a lot better at the last x, but breakfast was fine though)

It was very nice to see a lot of old farts again that you saw like 15 years ago or so. I cannot remember seeing ppl like mixer, stein or the other Norwegians before, that really was nice.

keep up the good work, if there ever will be an X again, sign me up for sure, lovely party
2010-10-05 08:04
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
Totally agree with Slator.
X-party arrangers, you guys are amazing.
X-Party visitors, you guys are amazing aswell.
Had a blast at this years party aswell.
Only bad thing is as usual, that I could have needed more
time to hang out and talk with people. Again I missed talking
with quite a few.
It's so beautiful that people with so many different backgrounds can meet in peace and have a so good time together. The rest of the world could learn from that, I guess.
C64 scene - You've got my love for sure!
2010-10-05 08:15
Pantaloon

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 124
The best party ever! huge props to the organizers!
2010-10-05 08:15
Axis/Oxyron

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 91
Wow, I just cant believe, that this really happened. Year 2010 and such a big and amazing c64 party with so many attendents and great releases. So many heros from the past returned and even guys from the pc realized how much c64 rocks. A fantastic start for a next amazing decade of c64 scene. Keep on organizing this and I´m sure everyone will be there again. And please organize a second coffeemachine.
2010-10-05 08:44
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Well, great party no doubt. Minor annoyances : During breakfast, food supply was bugged. Lots of cheese but no butter/ham. Coffee shortage was obviously a downer, especially in the morning. Announcements could have been handled better, i totally missed dinnertimes. Sound-wise the compo room was great, but i'd rather have it upstairs where you can sit down and spread out a bit. Oh yeah and the benches on the tables were a real ass killer.

Lots of these issues were likely due to the new location. Things seemed to go smoother back in hengelo, but i'm sure the problems will be sorted out during the next 10 X parties :-D

Otherwise, lots of great people to meet and fun to be had. Will definitely be there next time around.

Props to the orgas, it was obvious you guys were under some real pressure.

Hell, Enno didn't even have time to get stoned properly :-D


2010-10-05 09:22
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Quoting Jeff
Again I missed talking with quite a few.

Really, I tried, but you were so worn out by the party that it was senseless ;-) :-D
2010-10-05 09:40
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
Mace: but hey, we did meet for a short chat.. about the time we we're about to leave :-)
2010-10-05 12:20
endo
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Thanks to all the people there & orgas for their effort, it was a awesome party! unforgettable!

Here you can download ~1.8 GB movies & photos:

800x600 pics & videos:
http://www.moldibi.com/x2010/index.r

High quality versions (2816x2112)
http://www.moldibi.com/x2010/big/index.r

Sorry no time for thumbnails.
Enjoy!
2010-10-05 12:32
The Ignorance

Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 85
Yeah, it was fun again and we need 90 more X to get 100 full.

Poo-on-a-Stick is so.... Lovely to kill rats.

No complaints.

But the deadlines should be on thursday and nobody should be
allowed to code, paint or edit sth during the party.
Only BOOZING ALLOWED!
2010-10-05 12:44
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
It was again super awesome. I expected a lot of releases but not quite as much. And the fact that there were some non-sceners and also sceners from very far away was very cool.

Can't wait for the next X :D
2010-10-05 14:48
ne7
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Posts: 17
awesome awesome party, thanks to the organizers and also all the peeps I bumped into there for making this one a really ace event! \o_ really can't wait for the next one :)
2010-10-05 15:17
DaTucker

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 23
The party was awesome!

I really don't understand all these nagging comments.

Yes, I had to wait a few minutes sometimes for my beer. That was no problem, it was an great opportunity to chat up with others and meet new folks that were waiting too! And after all, I could have gotten more beers than I could handle. So the waiting part wasn't annoying at all, it was fun instead!

Keep in mind the organization consists of volunteers. They're no pro's and did a hell of a job. I even like it things aren't working out smoothly all times: this keeps me aware of the fact the party is organized by sceners in the first place, not some commercial and profit making company.

Please keep in mind too that the crew (like 10 people I believe) had to manage all kinds of stuff while 230+ others just are consuming and enjoying. I wonder if everyone is aware of the effort that has to be put in the organisation.

For 80 euro's this party is a bargain. Beds to sleep, beverages as much as you can handle and a great atmosphere during 2,5 days.

Organizers, please don't let the nagging you get to decide to quit organizing X-parties! I and many others say that this was perfect!
2010-10-05 15:39
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Quoting DaTucker
all these nagging comments
I for my part was merely giving some feedback. No nagging involved.
2010-10-05 16:08
GT
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I really liked the party place. Thumbs up to the organizers and visitors. Nice meeting you all! Amsterdam was very nice too, just a little bit too much of Dutch Breeze for me. :) Respect to those who'd travelled all the way from USA and Australia.
2010-10-05 17:51
macx

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 250
Quote: Quoting DaTucker
all these nagging comments
I for my part was merely giving some feedback. No nagging involved.


Yep, that goes for me as well. Having read the comments after my post yesterday I am a bit at odds with what people claim as nagging (if they refer to my post, that is). Some seem to take what was meant as constructive critique towards an already awesome party as an almost personal insult, immediately going into defence-mode on behalf of the organisers.

Well, you do not have to. I am passionate about them all and the effort they put into the party. It is an act of c64love2 this beauty of a beast.

It is possible to totally appreciate the awesomeness of X and at the same time mention a few things to keep in mind when organising another party. We are grown ups and can discuss, everything is no longer black and white as in the war between WCC (yeah!) and SCC (bläh!) :-).
2010-10-05 17:57
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
@macx: While you are right in theory, you are wrong in practice. As an organizer, you're so tired and worn out the day(s) after the party so you just give a shit about constructive criticism, i.e. whining about obvious details that you are already too well aware of. You yourself may rather be surprised that the whole place didn't explode or so. ;) 3.867 days after the party, it is more than ok to provide some constructive criticism though. :)

Well, I exaggerate of coz, and a whole lot too, but I just wanted to bring that aspect in. :)
2010-10-05 18:11
macx

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 250
Frantixxx: I hear what you are saying and agree. I spent a few hours with Niels on the airport after the party and I sure as hell reassured him of the supremeness of the event while he told me about all the hard work put into it.

The thing is that the complaints about "nagging" here does not come from the organisers, but from other people (which I was trying to point out two posts ago). And to defend myself I still see my post from yesterday as way positive with some minor thoughts of what could be improved. Next time I will wait a few days or just shut the fuck up (and hope that trolls here will do the same).
2010-10-05 18:15
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
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@macx. sure.. and in any case, if I remember correctly, you even pointed out explicitly (in your initial post) that it was just some feedback basicly or so, so I agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. :)

(Although I do suspect that those who label posts like the one you wrote as "nagging" do it precisely because of precisely that worn-out-organizer-syndrome..)
2010-10-05 18:34
DaTucker

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 23
You're right, there is a difference between nagging and constructive criticism. The latter one is not what I meant by nagging comments, so don't have hard feelings if you only tried to do some suggestions for improvement :-)

I meant people nagging about minor details like having to wait for beer, complaining about the entrance fee and so on.

2010-10-05 18:41
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Now give us some nice anecdotes from the party instead!
2010-10-05 19:14
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
Quoting Frantic
Now give us some nice anecdotes from the party instead!

Rumour has it that a certain sweet-talking swedish scener was effectively cockblocked when DeeKay ruined the mood by showing his (boring straight)porn stash on bigscreen for what felt like an eternity.
2010-10-05 19:23
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Nagging you say? I'll give you nagging! Why the fuck did you show my demo for such a short time?? Because I asked for it you say? Well, I was drunk!! You can't take anything drunk people say seriously!

Srsly, this was the best party I've been to this millennium. And with the kewlestest T-shirts evar! Really glad I got one of the last ones.

Other highlights include talking to a lot of different people. I was a lonely camel most of the time, but that meant I was forced to talking to a lot of other weird and inspiring geeks, both people I knew already as well as newcomers to the scene and old legends that I finally got to shake hands with and tell them how they inspired me.

Also having a demo in the compo was really great, although it was just a small one. Really glad I got it finished in spite of a nasty bug that I kept fighting with until 15 mins before the deadline, and that Linus was able to provide a tune with only a few days notice.
2010-10-05 19:25
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
rumor has it that there's a video of JT singing for the last ppl awake on sunday morning
2010-10-05 20:26
SIDWAVE
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yep, 10 guys who had too much to drink and all wanted to go to bed, but felt like a little family, and then jt sings one of his songs of how to come over the loss of a gf.. some magic minutes there.
2010-10-05 20:38
BHF
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Great to see the C64 alive and kicking :)

My first pt in about 19 years, loved it. Thanks to all.
The best demo won, it had soul ! Offence/Prosonix :D

/BHF
2010-10-05 20:47
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
oh, and the polish table with food and drinks was fun! thanks for that ;) such a nice idea
2010-10-05 20:58
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
Quote: rumor has it that there's a video of JT singing for the last ppl awake on sunday morning

Truely nice moment indeed :)
2010-10-06 07:53
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
One great moment was being fed by the generous Polish people from Arise (I think). Traditional Polish food ftw! Also bringing my old friend Hyde, the ardent PC coder, and hearing him gradually soften up to coding something for the C64 during the party was quite cool. Rocking out to 6581 was cool too. The scariest moment was waking up in the middle of the night with a zombie pirate sleeping standing up in our room. He turned out to be Duce. The daftest moment is a close tie between the discovery of there not being any soap available and DK's lame porn show.
2010-10-06 08:42
Edhellon

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 20
I think it says a lot about the organisers great work when after doing the party in a completely new place with way more people than ever, the bulk of complains is like: "yeah... and it'd be nice to have a second coffeemachine next time" :-)

Thanks guys for an absolutely mindblowing party, one of bestestest ever (I think only X'08 comes close) and see you again in two years!
2010-10-06 08:58
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
Quoting Archmage
One great moment was being fed by the generous Polish people from Arise (I think). Traditional Polish food ftw!

Props for the idea go to elban/arise, but the execution was a joint, cross-group Polish effort. A quite ambitious excercise in logistics ;) But we are all very glad so many people enjoyed that!
2010-10-06 09:07
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833
Indeed. Polish cuisine was definitely a highlight at X. I actually enjoyed that bread and lard spread. :)

btw, Wacek: I feel really bad for not having a chance to talk to you, as I really love your C64 music... I've also been listening to your latest Razor Point album, brilliant d'n'b stuff!
2010-10-06 13:37
Shadow
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Quote: Quoting Frantic
Now give us some nice anecdotes from the party instead!

Rumour has it that a certain sweet-talking swedish scener was effectively cockblocked when DeeKay ruined the mood by showing his (boring straight)porn stash on bigscreen for what felt like an eternity.


How the hell do you get cockblocked at a C64-party? The amount of females present is usually at a steady 0.00% !

-edit- Eh, ofcourse I neglected to take under consideration the possibility that there might be people "playing for the other team". In that case, the whole scenario suddenly makes a bit more sense! :D
2010-10-06 13:53
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Shadow: There might be some gay sceners, perhaps?
2010-10-06 14:20
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 490
we love partying with 250 men together. isn't it gay enough?
2010-10-06 14:28
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 453
nice to hear that so many people enjoyed the food we brought. come all to the silesia party next year, we'll feed you with more and even better stuff :)
2010-10-06 14:43
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227
i missed that polish food'n drinks :( carrion told me about it - but it was too late. life stinks :-(
2010-10-06 15:03
The Communist

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 485
I may have been drunk most of the time at the party but I could always notice the "Norwegian Invasion Tits".
2010-10-06 15:34
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
The polish food was indeed very nice. I also enjoyed the Kwas Chlebowy a lot. Good stuff.
2010-10-06 17:57
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
By the way, is there any recording of JT's performance? I have a few minutes of his concert shot in HD and would gladly up it on youtube for everyone to enjoy, but the mic level was a bit too high on the camcorder and sound is ruined in most part... Could replace if someone has recorded just the sound in decent quality...
2010-10-06 18:01
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quote: The polish food was indeed very nice. I also enjoyed the Kwas Chlebowy a lot. Good stuff.

real home-made kwas chlebowy is even better ;)
2010-10-06 18:04
Garvin

Registered: Sep 2009
Posts: 5
Party was a blast. The Polish food saved us from starvation until dinner was served ^^ Especially the pickled cucumber, polish vodka and Kwas Chlebowy (I think) combination certainly had me going =) Thanks to the organizers as well as all the people who made it an unforgettable weekend!
2010-10-06 18:10
Garvin

Registered: Sep 2009
Posts: 5
Quote: By the way, is there any recording of JT's performance? I have a few minutes of his concert shot in HD and would gladly up it on youtube for everyone to enjoy, but the mic level was a bit too high on the camcorder and sound is ruined in most part... Could replace if someone has recorded just the sound in decent quality...

Check http://scenesat.com for recordings and broadcasts from the party.
2010-10-06 18:22
GT
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Quote: nice to hear that so many people enjoyed the food we brought. come all to the silesia party next year, we'll feed you with more and even better stuff :)

Randall, Jammer, Booker, thanks for that food. Especially Booker's nice gesture serving me. Was really nice meeting you guys!
2010-10-06 22:52
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Epic cars spotted at the parking lot. Wonder if the number plates were customized or random...


2010-10-07 03:29
camper

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 16
last picture shows the car from 'brainstorm' - i arrived with him, bugjam and some other 'the dreams' members.
2010-10-07 05:48
Cresh

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354
Cruzer, they are custom plates.
As we have been told by Kordiaukis, that is quite cheap in Germany. His plate is "666" something. ;)
In Poland they cost extra EUR 250,-
2010-10-07 06:23
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
What is the fun in BO FH 4242?
2010-10-07 06:30
Cresh

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354
Bastard Operator From Hell?
4242 = port no.?
Just my guess.
2010-10-07 08:36
daison

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 90
...And the Arsenic Tour wagon had FLI on it's plate I noticed ;)
2010-10-07 08:49
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886
Goddamn! You really *are* a bunch of freaks!
2010-10-07 09:00
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 833
The van in front of the black Astra has HH and JT on the plate...

HH = Hein Holt
JT = Jeroen Tel

=)
2010-10-07 09:20
TPM

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 109
*LOL* @ the plates

real freakin'! :D
2010-10-07 10:26
daison

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 90
Quote: Bastard Operator From Hell?
4242 = port no.?
Just my guess.


42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything! :)
(Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)
2010-10-07 11:18
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Cresh: Seems like everything is cheaper in Germany, and Poland. In Denmark they're about 830€.

And yeah, Cresh and Daison are right about BOFH 4242. Too bad I missed the "FLI" plate.
2010-10-07 13:53
j0x

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215
Cruzer: More like €990 if you actually want the plates and not just the rights to them :(

Whenever I'm visiting relatives in Flensburg, I look at the FLI and FLD plates and wonder if I'm looking at a Flensburg scener's car.
2010-10-07 14:18
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Quote:
More like €990
Argh, think I'd rather use the money on having my car pimped like Brainstorms then. :) Or maybe I should just brush off my Deutsch and move down to that wonderland of cheap joys.
2010-10-07 14:53
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227
Quote: Cruzer: More like €990 if you actually want the plates and not just the rights to them :(

Whenever I'm visiting relatives in Flensburg, I look at the FLI and FLD plates and wonder if I'm looking at a Flensburg scener's car.


yeah, there must be a reason for us oxyrons and arsenics to live in flensburg... its the plates like: FL-D, FL-I, FL-DI... to be continued :)
2010-10-07 14:58
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
And in Nuremberg I guess you could get NU-FLI
2010-10-07 15:02
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
BOFH -> BOFH:Servers Under Siege
2010-10-07 16:32
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
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20 Euros it's here. But of course, it has to be free (the letter/number combination must not be taken by someone else), and you only get to pick two middle letters and the numbers (first letters are region code). So, no NU-FLI 64 or something.
2010-10-07 21:11
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
Quoting Frantic
@macx: While you are right in theory, you are wrong in practice. As an organizer, you're so tired and worn out the day(s) after the party so you just give a shit about constructive criticism, i.e. whining about obvious details that you are already too well aware of. You yourself may rather be surprised that the whole place didn't explode or so. ;) 3.867 days after the party, it is more than ok to provide some constructive criticism though. :)

Well, I exaggerate of coz, and a whole lot too, but I just wanted to bring that aspect in. :)

HEAR! HEAR!

I finally start to recover from X (not to mention sunday night where all hell broke lose, so I had to work till 08:30 am on monday) and I'm trying to put things in perspective finally.

1. it was a fucking *shitload* of work.
2. it was a huge success.
3. we had a super crew! also the new guys (ream!, 2hype!).
4. new location was great.
5. stunning compos.
6. 6581! LIVE! JT! DaTucker!
7. new location requires lots of fixes in organizational terms.
8. I will never clean that shit again. lol

and to the people with constructive criticism, yes, plenty of things can and should be improved, if not only to relieve the crew. also a smaller screen/sound setup in the main hall is required.

AND PEOPLE SHOULDN'T CLOG UP THE DAMN TOILETS! THAT'S NASTY!

edit:

I forget the most important: ALL THE COMEBACKS! Omega Supreme, Stein, Danko, OMP, SIT, PAL, and the "new" ones pantaloon. louie64, etc :P
2010-10-08 10:09
DaTucker

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 23
In relation to the clogged up toilets, your choice for the word 'shitload' is excellent! ;-)

Really liked the party and I am wishing to make this an annual event. Any chance?
2010-10-08 10:27
booker
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Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 333
Annual is too often :) X would kill every other party throughout the year.
2010-10-08 10:41
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
annual X? no way! we're trying to have non scene life too, you know ;)
2010-10-08 10:42
Yazoo

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227
Quote: annual X? no way! we're trying to have non scene life too, you know ;)

skip the real life plz :)
2010-10-08 11:07
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Btw, I think my fetish for number plates started on the way to the last X:
2010-10-08 11:18
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254
Instead of making X an annual event, which would no doubt exhaust the organizers into calling it quits after a couple of years, someone else should take it upon themselves to start a new event taking place every year when there is no X. No, I'm not volunteering. :-P
2010-10-08 11:22
DaTucker

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 23
I would volunteer! If only I could get some others interested as well, because I really can imagine it is a hell of a job to get things right...

Any volunteers available?
2010-10-08 11:29
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1031
didn't rambones want to organize a party, or did he leave the scene again?
2010-10-08 12:06
TPM

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 109
he left the scene... again ;)
2010-10-08 19:12
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
Quote:
someone else should take it upon themselves to start a new event taking place every year when there is no X

I think right now we have (at least) a candidate for that position, being Silesia Party 5.0 in 2011 :)
2010-10-08 19:25
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
There will be an LCP in 2011. I am currently looking for a party place which is large enough for a big C64 party. (If someone has a good idea for a party place in the Lund/Malmö area, send me a PM!) That will be the 9th or 11th LCP party, depending on whether StLCP and the BFP parties are counted as an "LCP" or not. :)

LCP is usually held the last weekend of July, but a more exact date will be reported later on. (It is usually no more than one week after or one week earlier than the last weekend of july though.)

You may have noticed that there was no LCP this year. The reasons for this were only temporary and there are no plans whatsoever of ending the LCP party series. So start working on your demos, tunes, pictures and so forth! It is only about 8 months until the deadline! :)

LCP 2011 - The year the scene war started
2010-10-08 19:38
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
\o/
2010-10-10 11:54
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11111
Quote:
annual X? no way!

ok, monthly then. i'll be there! =)
2010-10-12 21:39
Sphinx

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 20
i´ve posted some video stuff i´ve taken at the party, have fun! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JidhW4_Nx2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbtQc9cA0jw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_F6c_6dCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzWaKgPlHZg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9-BCoyWPRw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwprDUvz248
2010-10-12 22:52
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 490
@Sphinx: Thanks dude, great shots.
2010-10-12 23:49
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Agree with Skate, nice to relive the compos and performances. I like Glance's videos a lot too, especially MVI_1015.AVI, which gives a nice roundtrip of the main hall. You should consider uploading that to Youtube as well.
2010-10-13 01:10
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
Videos and pics from X2010 by me
http://partyreports.sidwave.com/
2010-10-13 07:46
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932
Cool X10 photos by Tron

http://www.scs-trc.net/parties/index.php?list=67
2010-10-13 19:18
camper

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 16
Quote: Cool X10 photos by Tron

http://www.scs-trc.net/parties/index.php?list=67


it seems that tron really likes me and my c64.... lol
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