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2009-11-25 21:53
Morpheus

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 152
Best program to draw C64 graphics with on a PC and on a MAC?

One of the very best artists from days gone by wants to dabble with C64 pixels again, so I'm asking on his behalf.

Cheers, Morph
 
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2009-11-26 00:45
FATFrost
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Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211
sarge.
2009-11-26 06:59
irwin
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Registered: Feb 2009
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Quote: Why not on C64? :)

Probably because he wants simply paint - not fight with unknow GUI, specfic file load/save, very limit gfx tools (no layers) and many more. ;)
2009-11-26 09:46
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576
Quoting irwin
Probably because he wants simply paint - not fight with unknow GUI, specfic file load/save, very limit gfx tools (no layers) and many more. ;)

Can't speak in the name of all C64 graphicians around, but I for myself really love the vintage, limited ambience of working purely on a C64.
For me, PC software is useful only when no real C64 is around or have to get done something really quick. And even then, I tend to enjoy minimalistic interfaces like P1.

The conclusion is: don't think that an easier option is always a better option :)
2009-11-26 10:18
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
<personal_experience>
There is an advantage for the pc tools - you cannot take the 64 with you to work and pixel some things during a boring meeting... :D
</personal_experience>
2009-11-26 10:26
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Grafx2 is excellent if you want a DPaint clone. Recent betas have support for loading and saving koalas.
2009-11-26 10:51
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576
Used Gfx2 in the DOS-era and liked it a lot. Can't download shit at the moment to test it. How it is dealing with Koala limitations in painting mode?
2009-11-26 10:59
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
for multicolor purists 0xpaint is also a neat tool. very simple usage, has vice and codenet support.

otherwise i second celtic, though i would not recommend p1 for tablet users (without a mousewheel zooming is pain).
2009-11-26 11:19
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576
Quoting Veto
otherwise i second celtic, though i would not recommend p1 for tablet users (without a mousewheel zooming is pain).

Interesting, I use P1 mostly with a tablet and that never occurred to me as a problem. Preview is always set to 200% and I never zoom in/out the main window.
Like always, seems that everything is down to the graphics artist's personal taste and/or habit.
2009-11-26 13:02
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Quoting Jailbird
Used Gfx2 in the DOS-era and liked it a lot. Can't download shit at the moment to test it. How it is dealing with Koala limitations in painting mode?

It's currently in development. You can share your thoughts on the matter in the bug tracker:

http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/issues/detail?id=202

A couple of other interesting issues in the tracker are:

http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/issues/detail?id=171 (8x8 grid)
http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/issues/detail?id=211 (C64 load/save)
2009-11-26 13:46
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576
I remember trying out the first couple of versions of the new Gfx2 but haven't followed the progress for quite a while now. All these changes sound very, very promising. As soon as I'll find an opportunity to test it, I'll share my thoughts.

Anyone else who tried to pixel in the updated versions? What do you think?

BTW, although I never liked its UI, according to others, ProMotion is also a nifty tool for pixelling C64 stuff on PC. IIRC, it's developed by the same guy who made Gunpaint, but I might be wrong here. Oh yes, and unfortunately, it's not free.
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