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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004 Posts: 443 |
GoatTracker 2 Fork - interested?
I fiddled around with the GT2 sources lately - just for my personal interest. It's just visual stuff for "shits and giggles" ...
Currently I'm asking myself (or asking *you* here) if someone else may find this useful.
Checkout http://gt2fork.jansalleine.com/ and tell me what you think about it.
For now I just provided an experimental win32 download, but of course I will share the sources and do some more work on it if anyone bothers ;-)
When I mailed my zeroes to dots idea to Cadaver he said, he liked it, but feels GT development pretty much to be "finished". So I don't know if he'll work on GT anymore.
The current version runs - at least for me - on linux and windows - don't know anything about OSX or whatever this apple system is called yet :-)
Have fun!
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004 Posts: 637 |
Quote: On modern machines you probably can quite easily afford to dump the entire song to a data structure for each undo step.
Exactly what I am doing. |
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TDM
Registered: Aug 2006 Posts: 10 |
Great initiative and I'm very glad to see this thread. I use Goat tracker daily since it has shown to be versatile and raster economic. I've tried a couple of other editors but for some reason I always get back to GT.
One thing struck me in most editors is that there are very coarse jumps between tempos, so even in Goat Tracker. A higher tempo granularity would open up a lot more possibilities. I have no idea if this is even doable within reasonable effort, but it would change the preconditions for creating music monumentally.
To give an example of what I mean: Today $03 is the fastest tempo and $6 is half the tempo of that. In an ideal situation $0C would be half the tempo of $03 and thus giving more tempo options. |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004 Posts: 637 |
Multispeed is your friend then ;) |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004 Posts: 443 |
@TDM: Tempo is directly tied to the frames on C64. So 03 is 3 frames etc... So as Linus suggested, if you i.e. want to go "half a frame" you've got to choose 2X speed, meaning the routine is called twice per frame. Still tempo (if you think possible BPM) is limited on raster / frame based playroutines. |
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Zirias
Registered: Jan 2014 Posts: 48 |
Quoting spider-j@TDM: Tempo is directly tied to the frames on C64. So 03 is 3 frames etc...
That. And another option I use sometimes instead of going multi-speed is "funk tempo" or what it's called. Having the time of a pattern step alternate between e.g. 5 and 4 frames, you get an "effective tempo" of 4.5 (and just have the smallest-unit notes a little bit "too late", which often sounds quite nice).
BTT -- I prefer the original color scheme and about the dots: This is no doubt an improvement to the UI design, still I miss the original zeroes, just because -- you know, getting used to something is strong. But I think if GT UI would change this way, I would like it after a few days of using it :) |
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TDM
Registered: Aug 2006 Posts: 10 |
Quote: Quoting spider-j@TDM: Tempo is directly tied to the frames on C64. So 03 is 3 frames etc...
That. And another option I use sometimes instead of going multi-speed is "funk tempo" or what it's called. Having the time of a pattern step alternate between e.g. 5 and 4 frames, you get an "effective tempo" of 4.5 (and just have the smallest-unit notes a little bit "too late", which often sounds quite nice).
BTT -- I prefer the original color scheme and about the dots: This is no doubt an improvement to the UI design, still I miss the original zeroes, just because -- you know, getting used to something is strong. But I think if GT UI would change this way, I would like it after a few days of using it :)
Goat Tracker has funk tempo, us $E and point to speedtable. Agree about the color scheme, it's as bit hard to read. |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012 Posts: 218 |
I personally hand you a medal and a cigar if you manage to implement a graphical pattern sequence editor add on-screen controls to resize and change patterns as well as a more intuitive instrument library plus an arpeggio/filter section that is optically divided rather than being one big cluster of numbers. But hey... when did i last compose a SID with goattracker? 2017? |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009 Posts: 321 |
works nicely here. has anyone produced a version of goattracker for windows that supports MIDI keyboards? that would be wonderful :) |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004 Posts: 443 |
On a request I did some new builds with black background. Did a little fixing and clean up.
Win32 releases here:
https://gt2fork.jansalleine.com/
Source code released publically on github:
https://github.com/jansalleine/gt2fork |
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booker Account closed
Registered: Jul 2003 Posts: 333 |
Why not template the color scheme and let people set as they'd like? ;-) |
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