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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 116 |
Blues
Are there any new Blues compositions or existing covers on the SID?
Or anything like the algorithmic composition in BallBlazer for the Atari 400/800 which is not in the C64 version? |
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Digger
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 422 |
Such classic https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/DRAX/Worktunes/.. |
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 456 |
> perhaps Blues genre characteristics are particularly hard
> for the subtractive analogue synth?
no, but blues as a genre relies heavily on expression and not composition, therefore doesn't make much sense stiffly programmed. if there are exceptions - they utilize blues characteristics (rhythm, licks), but emphasize songwriting aspect. you're warmly welcome to come up with a proper algo which generates blues, that could be an interesting challenge. |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 116 |
Quoting DiggerSuch classic https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/DRAX/Worktunes/..
Not blues but a most excellent composer, made me think of Taki when I saw Drax, another awesome composer:
https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/Taki/Draxish.sid
Quoting Hate Bush> perhaps Blues genre characteristics are particularly hard
> for the subtractive analogue synth?
no, but blues as a genre relies heavily on expression and not composition, therefore doesn't make much sense stiffly programmed. if there are exceptions - they utilize blues characteristics (rhythm, licks), but emphasize songwriting aspect. you're warmly welcome to come up with a proper algo which generates blues, that could be an interesting challenge.
Great insight I agree. I am working on an algorithm with an aspect to allow the listener to participate in the composition.
I was hoping to find algorithmic examples for the SID like the BallBlazer algorithm for Atari. Makes me wonder if there was a difficulty issue where that could not be implemented as easily on the C64 or just got left out of the port. |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 116 |
I have an algorithm that does soft Jazz and Charles Ives inspired modernist composition released in Breakout Pet Factory demo from Transmission 64 this past weekend.
Working on a most difficult Blues algorithm... |
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AüMTRöN
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 42 |
/MUSICIANS/T/Tonal_Teapot/Ubiks_Musik.sid song 4 is still the most bluesy thing I heard on C64. It's not exactly blues, but it does have a few I/IV/V in it, and the lead is somewhat improvised sounding. It eventually ends up in a out-of-sync cacophony, but it still rules hard.
Quote:blues as a genre relies heavily on expression and not composition, therefore doesn't make much sense stiffly programmed
This. I've tried to write blues on sid and it quickly feels pointless. |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 116 |
Quote: /MUSICIANS/T/Tonal_Teapot/Ubiks_Musik.sid song 4 is still the most bluesy thing I heard on C64. It's not exactly blues, but it does have a few I/IV/V in it, and the lead is somewhat improvised sounding. It eventually ends up in a out-of-sync cacophony, but it still rules hard.
Quote:blues as a genre relies heavily on expression and not composition, therefore doesn't make much sense stiffly programmed
This. I've tried to write blues on sid and it quickly feels pointless.
This has a nice sound.
This Jazz piece by Glenn Gallefoss is inspiring too:
https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Blues_Muz/Galle..
This one is nice too:
https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Bayliss_Richard..
Agree Blues is very challenging on the SID, I working on the Blues algorithm on the Atari too. Blues might be a genre the less advanced Atari sound chip is better at, jury is still out... |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 229 |
so, i'm just asking because i am really unsure, but this is some kind of blues right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QcdOsM9Io (Mikie Title)
Totally love that tune.
Like Boogie-Woogie Blues or something? |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 116 |
Quote: so, i'm just asking because i am really unsure, but this is some kind of blues right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QcdOsM9Io (Mikie Title)
Totally love that tune.
Like Boogie-Woogie Blues or something?
Yes this has a blues feel, closest I have seen so far on the SID. Very cool! |
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Mr SQL
Registered: Feb 2023
Posts: 116 |
Quote: > perhaps Blues genre characteristics are particularly hard
> for the subtractive analogue synth?
no, but blues as a genre relies heavily on expression and not composition, therefore doesn't make much sense stiffly programmed. if there are exceptions - they utilize blues characteristics (rhythm, licks), but emphasize songwriting aspect. you're warmly welcome to come up with a proper algo which generates blues, that could be an interesting challenge.
Here's my algorithm for the Blues from the Silly Venture Art Festival in Gdansk this weekend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iahkNyHnnKk
Interestingly the algorithm that allows this program to run on the Commodore 64 has an unexpected side effect of changing the Blues Sound to Jazz. I will be releasing it at a C64 demo party soon.
Here's my recent entry from Transmission64 with Jazz and modernist music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJNeu97_YW0 |
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