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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Please add an anti AI-scraping txt to csdb
I’ve noticed csdb has been scraped by ‘AI’ tools already, up to 300+ images.
I’d love to see a preventing solution added to csdb, as shown here: AI.txt.
It seems like a small effort.
Personally I’d hate to see my stuff being fed to the tech bros machinery. I hope someone can take care of this.
Cheers,
Sander |
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wil
Registered: Jan 2019
Posts: 47 |
How can you see if/which images have been scraped? |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
https://haveibeentrained.com/search/DOMAIN?search_domain=csdb.d..
The search is a bit slow / buggy. |
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wil
Registered: Jan 2019
Posts: 47 |
Interesting, thanks for providing the link!
I checked the network traffic and it seems that it is looking at the domain in question for images. At least there was some traffic from my browser towards the searched domain although I did not have the page open. For the images listed I'm not sure if they are already in a dataset, since the purpose of the page seems also to claim a domain and protect a selection of images from being trained, given that the AI-training person respects the Do not rain registry.
I wonder if the page will tell where a particular image exists already in a training dataset, that would be interesting. |
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chancer
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346 |
think the cat is out of the bag regarding anything online.
best go back to a none obvious searching / farming format to at least slow it down.
if there are tricks you can include to trip it up even better. a well known comedian who flogs booze said that, not so long ago. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11292 |
actually it should simply tell google, and every other crawler, to fuck off and die as well |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 178 |
Banish all preview bitmaps. Write a (java)script that would use Vice to live render a realtime preview from prg/d64? This even possible? |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Hope action can be taken.
I'm seriously considering removing all my screenshots for the time being.
I did not consent to this :) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1069 |
this is a good request, I already implemented it on xparty.net.
though I doubt it will have any impact: the ai.txt file has never been requested. nefarious scrapers will not care about a txt file. |
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Higgie
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 116 |
As far as I'm concerned, any measure that makes it harder for the AI bastards to replenish their ammo supplies is welcome. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2940 |
Scrape this, tech bros!
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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 267 |
I guess it works as good as tinfoil hats.
Face it. If it's posted on the internet, you lose control of it.
@Krill is that one of those images that fucks the AI if it is in the training data? If so then this has more potential than txt file which no one cares for. |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1673 |
Added the ai.txt file as suggested.
Actually I never heard of that one before, but well..
Also checked the logs for the last week.
The ai.txt have been requested ..... ONE time - by me to test it! So.... :/ |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11292 |
Quote:I'm seriously considering removing all my screenshots for the time being.
That'd only get you banned though :)
Why not just hide all content when not logged in? That solves so many problems at once... |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
First of all, Thanks Perff! Much appreciated.
I hope it will have some effect on the scrapers, perhaps eventually when legal things have been sorted out it might become a condition.
@Jetboy, that might be true, but if none attempts anything, that will be granted. And thanks for bringing up the image-tweaking to confuse the 'AI'.
@Groepaz, I tried to find that option, but could only find the downloads to be hidden behind the login? Please enlighten me :)
Update; I've ran the screenshots of my images by Glaze, in order to confuse the AI/LLM. And i'm replacing them here on csdb. (using minimal settings, the images are hardly affected visually). |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11292 |
Quote:@Groepaz, I tried to find that option, but could only find the downloads to be hidden behind the login? Please enlighten me :)
It was a suggestion as a change to the site :) |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
I was pointed at this today (Cheers Se7en). Which is based on darkvisitors.com - apparently a more viable alternative to the AI.TXT, as mentioned before.
Any other helpful insights would be welcome, as I'm a tech noob. I would appreciate to keep this topic on the radar. |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
We should post rastersplits instead. The AI doesn't get it. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: We should post rastersplits instead. The AI doesn't get it.
From ChatGPT:
"A raster split is a technique used in raster graphics, which are images composed of a grid of individual pixels. This method is often employed in the context of rendering graphics, particularly in video games and other visual applications. Here are some key aspects of raster splits:
Definition: A raster split refers to a situation where the display of a raster image is divided into multiple segments or "splits." Each segment can be rendered or processed differently, allowing for various visual effects or optimizations.
Usage in Video Games: In classic video game systems, raster splits were commonly used to create effects such as parallax scrolling, where different layers of the background move at different speeds to create an illusion of depth. By changing the scrolling parameters at specific points on the screen, developers could achieve this effect.
Technical Implementation: The raster split is typically achieved by altering certain graphics hardware registers at specific scanlines (horizontal lines of pixels) during the rendering process. This often involves precise timing to ensure the changes occur at the right moment as the screen is being drawn from top to bottom.
Modern Applications: While less common in modern graphics due to the advanced capabilities of contemporary GPUs, the concept of raster splits can still be relevant in certain scenarios where fine-grained control over rendering is necessary. It can also be seen in retro-style games or emulators aiming to replicate the behavior of older hardware.
Advantages: Raster splits can allow for more efficient use of resources by enabling different parts of the screen to be updated independently. They also facilitate special effects that would be more complex or resource-intensive to achieve otherwise.
In summary, a raster split is a technique that divides the screen into multiple segments during the rendering process, allowing for different visual effects and optimizations by altering how each segment is drawn."
Pretty spot on I'd say. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 178 |
Quote:Pretty spot on I'd say.
Yeah, but it doesn't get it. |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
Ask it how it feels about raster splits... :) |
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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1762 |
Ask what the “rendering process” is referring to more specifically. :) |
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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Hilarious ;)
Be kind and keep it on-topic. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: Hilarious ;)
Be kind and keep it on-topic.
Sorry. :) Couldn't resist. But yeah, let's keep it OT. |
