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TWR
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Voting
I have a question regarding the votes. I got a 1 vote as a cracker, maybe not that far from the truth actually but anyway... Is it possible to see who voted what? I'm just curious what crack that person have from me, that was so bad? Or is it a trick by a youngsters mind? ;)Have seen this kind of voting in other places too. |
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Wanderer
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Join the club. Every time I release a 'crack' I receive a '1' vote, invisible of course. How a crack can be a '1' is beyond me, if it works, it's small and trained.
Any crack otherwise not forzen warrants higher than a '1'.
I suspect it's someone who feels this is competition. |
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Compyx
Registered: Jan 2005
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Who cares about crackers anyway, why not spend your time creating something like "demo's", eh ?
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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Who cares about anything?! Let's all make crazy statements... WOOHOO!
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H.O
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This is why all votes should be public, but we've already had that discussion (and fairly recently too)
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Wanderer
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Quote: Who cares about crackers anyway, why not spend your time creating something like "demo's", eh ?
Because making demos is an addiction like crack cocaine.
I wish so much I'd kept all of mine, but I didn't...
Say no to crack!!!
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
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We need to receive some more votes for Vandalism News. So for a REAL C64 chart, message me your top 5 votes in coders, graphician, musician, demo group, cracker group, cracker and magazine.
Unlike the chart in this database, there is no down-voting. People earn their positions and these positions are reflected in a chart (holding to the true and traditional chart on C64).
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V-12
Registered: Nov 2003
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CSDb is full of anonymous downvoting, I think that the vote system here is useless, this is not a disc mag. We should not care about votes here. Why don't you fill the votesheet for some discmag ?
From my side, I wish to see more new demos than cracks. |
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The Arrogance
Registered: May 2004
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Indeed, too much senseless down-voting.. these charts onhere don't reflect anything, just because the whole voting-system is almost begging for manipulation done by biased people, who, for whatever reason, still seem to carry on bad vibrations about people/groups, they were in trouble with years ago.
The easiest solution: get rid of that voting-system, create a new one without that senseless proportional-average-calculation feature, just count the Votes the way it was done for so many years. If someone voted 1 point or 10 points for a person/group, than simply add it/them to the summary for that person/group. If people don't vote for you or your group, than you might not have done anything worth to remember to deserve a vote, easy as that and the problem with the "downvotes" is solved.
Whatever, someone please wake me up, are we really discussing 64 charts in the year 2005 ?! ^^
L8er.
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Earthshaker
Registered: Sep 2002
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Quote: Indeed, too much senseless down-voting.. these charts onhere don't reflect anything, just because the whole voting-system is almost begging for manipulation done by biased people, who, for whatever reason, still seem to carry on bad vibrations about people/groups, they were in trouble with years ago.
The easiest solution: get rid of that voting-system, create a new one without that senseless proportional-average-calculation feature, just count the Votes the way it was done for so many years. If someone voted 1 point or 10 points for a person/group, than simply add it/them to the summary for that person/group. If people don't vote for you or your group, than you might not have done anything worth to remember to deserve a vote, easy as that and the problem with the "downvotes" is solved.
Whatever, someone please wake me up, are we really discussing 64 charts in the year 2005 ?! ^^
L8er.
T.
That sounds like a nice solution. The only fact you get then, is that the newer productions would take some time to get as much points as the old ones. Did i explain that well? |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Eartshaker, but that's okay... that's called popularity.. ;-) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Argh .. it's the discussion that won't die .. I'm not going to mention all those nice solutions I already provided in the past again .. |
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The Arrogance
Registered: May 2004
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Quote: That sounds like a nice solution. The only fact you get then, is that the newer productions would take some time to get as much points as the old ones. Did i explain that well?
Earthshaker, well, i see your point, but hey, isn't all this about nostalgia anyway ?! So what's so bad about it, if people like some older demo/group more than a new one and even if it's just because it is old and retro ?! That's the reason why most of us hang around here.
Anyway, shouldn't be too difficult to find a solution for that problem aswell. Let's simply have an official cut between oldschool and newschool, 2 devided charts and the like. I did never really like that mixing of those 2 completely different scenes from back then and nowadays anyway.
L8er.
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Tch
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Following The Arrogance here..
Sounds not bad to have a barrier between the two scenes.
But where to draw the line?
I consider myself to be something like an "oldskool-newbie" ;)
Then again,God knows how many people had already quit when I just got started in 1989.
Maybe I am only not-so-oldskool,get my drift? 8) |
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TWR
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Today I got three new 1 votes from another "secret" voter. Bizarre... (Strontium Dog, Time Zone and Rick Dangerous). |
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V-12
Registered: Nov 2003
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I think that there are some idiots who are having fun here, maybe even they have some fake profiles here. Or just a childs who don't even know that there is not so easy to make cracks. All votes should be public but I think that voting here is nonseless. |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
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i guess discussing the votes being pub or not kinda went off and obsolete along with the nice formular we had on the bottom right corner some time ago. i guess that's what can be called a 'silent agreement' (or did anyone ever come up with a final solution and state it here? =).
so, why even care about votes in the first place; it's nice that they're there, but as much as they're present, they don't work at all because of above mentioned reasons.
other than that: fish. |
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Rough
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its really funny, 50% per cent of the voters gave me 1 point. And that anonymous. If these computer nerds at least had their guts to show who they are when they are so childish. |
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SECRET MAN
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Not all Rough ! I gave 2 points ! hahahahaha
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SECRET MAN
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I forgot ! I love these Cracking charts.
Rough: Place 46
Secret Man: Place 49
I cracked some games in 1988 for the Insiders,but i lost all my disks as i got busted by the police ! (gravenreuth)
Seems so,that i should crack some games to beat Rough..hahaha |
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Crossfire
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Quote: Indeed, too much senseless down-voting.. these charts onhere don't reflect anything, just because the whole voting-system is almost begging for manipulation done by biased people, who, for whatever reason, still seem to carry on bad vibrations about people/groups, they were in trouble with years ago.
The easiest solution: get rid of that voting-system, create a new one without that senseless proportional-average-calculation feature, just count the Votes the way it was done for so many years. If someone voted 1 point or 10 points for a person/group, than simply add it/them to the summary for that person/group. If people don't vote for you or your group, than you might not have done anything worth to remember to deserve a vote, easy as that and the problem with the "downvotes" is solved.
Whatever, someone please wake me up, are we really discussing 64 charts in the year 2005 ?! ^^
L8er.
T.
Yep, discussing charts in the year 2005, it barkles the mind, doesn't it? |
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Dishy
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 241 |
Quote: Yep, discussing charts in the year 2005, it barkles the mind, doesn't it?
*LOL* Some people also downvoted me as swapper ;-)
Anyway, I actually use the charts in here, because I find it funny and interesting to see how certain people vote for the demos. If some people have voted some demos good and maybe added some nice comments to the release, then I get a little too curious, and just have to check some of those demos myself too see if I share their point of view...
Guess I´ll enjoy watching old(and new) C64 demos and stuff for the rest of my life:)
But yes - votes in 2005, hehe, that´s just Fun Stuff! ;-)
*****Once A Scener - Always A Scener***** |
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TWR
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Quote: its really funny, 50% per cent of the voters gave me 1 point. And that anonymous. If these computer nerds at least had their guts to show who they are when they are so childish.
Still, some anonymous dude gave you a 10/10 as a cracker... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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i'll give you an anonymous 10 as fullscreen musician!!!! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
One of the reasons the voting on here is a farse. Make it non-anonymous so we can slaughter the idiots responsible. Cowards. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
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I still dont really understand how votes can still be anonymous. Everybody wants em to be public, so why aren't they yet? |
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Tch
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"Anonymous voting" is a contradiction in itself.
Voting is ment to speak your mind.
So,if you do it anonymously,nobody really cares what you ´say´ because it could be anyone.
A Name tells more than some "anonymous 1".
Duh,"Brutal Recall" votesheet-rule nr.1...
No Handle - Not Qualified. ;P
Nothing new under the sun...
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
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In short;
- Do a SQL query that resets every vote on every release/group/whatever.
- Disable anonymous voting
- Let's start all over again.
Deal? Deal!
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: I still dont really understand how votes can still be anonymous. Everybody wants em to be public, so why aren't they yet?
Because the CSDb staff does not want it. e.g. Perff.
And well, I also wouldn't like that wars happen just because somebody voted for something and you could punish them |
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Tch
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If you vote Booze Design a 1,you deserve to get shot.
Life is competition,like it or not.
It is not hard to make a phoney-account.
Use that,if you feel like a kid and wanna downvote. :(
Atleast make it fun again.
Like with those ´shit´-crackers in 1992 (rotzkotz,etc..)
Be open in a disguised way!!
Sure,some people might get pissed when they find out who you really are.
But that also puts some restraint on you. 8P
Eventually people will find out.
Maybe the CSDb staff should give them lame-voters some time to ´correct´ their mistakes.
But please kill this anonymous option!
.:*^° warping to 2010 °^*:.
But please kill this anonymous option!
;)
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: If you vote Booze Design a 1,you deserve to get shot.
Life is competition,like it or not.
It is not hard to make a phoney-account.
Use that,if you feel like a kid and wanna downvote. :(
Atleast make it fun again.
Like with those ´shit´-crackers in 1992 (rotzkotz,etc..)
Be open in a disguised way!!
Sure,some people might get pissed when they find out who you really are.
But that also puts some restraint on you. 8P
Eventually people will find out.
Maybe the CSDb staff should give them lame-voters some time to ´correct´ their mistakes.
But please kill this anonymous option!
.:*^° warping to 2010 °^*:.
But please kill this anonymous option!
;)
contrast suggestion: Disallow votes for 1-4 and only allow 5-10 :) no more downvoting! :D |
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Tch
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Works for me..
I usually only vote if I like it.
If I don´t,I simply refrain from voting. 8P |
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: Works for me..
I usually only vote if I like it.
If I don´t,I simply refrain from voting. 8P
Now I am scared... |
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Tch
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Bah, Skip the weed,fuck paranoia,trace I.P.´s.. ;)
Burpzz... |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
What about a Hall Of Shame with a list of downvoters?
#1 would be (IMO) be a guy that calls himself WG (WG) who made himself an anonymous voter after he got 'bashed' in Panoramic's Mentallic thread.
This is, by the way, also a reason to throw the whole anonymous voting over board.
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DCMP
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I used to only give votes of 6 and up or not vote all all..
Now I just think that people a should be able to accept a bit of criticism, even when you are friends. I also stopped voting anonymously.
I'd prefer all votes to be open here.
And most 1 votes are downvotes ofcourse, unless they are 2 stripes representing a town with people eating pizza in a restaurant at 5:30 ..
(In that case the imaginative part would deserve a 2 )
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Ben
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Quote: I used to only give votes of 6 and up or not vote all all..
Now I just think that people a should be able to accept a bit of criticism, even when you are friends. I also stopped voting anonymously.
I'd prefer all votes to be open here.
And most 1 votes are downvotes ofcourse, unless they are 2 stripes representing a town with people eating pizza in a restaurant at 5:30 ..
(In that case the imaginative part would deserve a 2 )
Anyone eating pizza deserves a 3+, at least.. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Anyone eating pizza deserves a 3+, at least..
Not if it's one of those veggie-things Sander & you seem to like.
Hippies. |
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: Anyone eating pizza deserves a 3+, at least..
Depends on what is on the pizza. ;) |
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drake
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pizza hawai should do it for me |
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DCMP
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/* off topic
Sander is a vegetarian as well? nice. And 'karnemelk' drinkers deserve a 5 at least...
off topic */
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Tch
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Vegetarian or Carnivore,all the food is polluted. ;)
Shouldn´t matter what ones ideology is.
Results is what skill is about. ;P |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
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*/me drinks a glass of karnemelk and eats a tasty gorgonzola pizza*
Yum!
But where's me votes then?! ;)
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