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2005-09-28 11:28
Perff
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Posts: 1676
New feature: Timeline

I'll not say much here.
It's a visual display of what have happened for a specific scener or group.
Go to you favorite scener or group page (/csdb/scener/?id=XX or /csdb/group/?id=XX) and notice the link in the right bar "Timeline". Hit it and.. well. yes. :)

This feature is in no way 100% finished. There is room for a lot of improvement and new ideas. Actually we have a few additional ideas ourselves, but I think it was about time to release it.

2005-09-28 11:39
Ben
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Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 163
Lovely :)
2005-09-28 11:40
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Cool! :)
2005-09-28 11:49
Clarence

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 121
Nice feature.
Drax has quite some timeline. :)
2005-09-28 12:01
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942
Great feature.
2005-09-28 12:30
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Amazing! Made me refine the whole HVSC team member dates right on the spot. :-)
Still not 100%, but I'll go through it in more detail when I'm back home from work.
2005-09-28 13:41
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
This is really cool!

However, if you check on timeline on Triad you have start date set from 1985 on members that doesnt have any join date. You should check this value against group build date, if set.

and if you already know about this, just ignore me.
2005-09-28 14:37
Perff
Administrator

Posts: 1676
No didn't know about that one. (Didn't think of it)
Perhaps this will be fixed. :)
2005-09-28 16:01
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
also problem, if you do not know when you quit a group, the time line goes straight till present time eventhough you have quit.
tested it on myself
2005-09-28 16:23
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1787
Very nice! :)
2005-09-28 18:15
Perff
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Posts: 1676
Quote: also problem, if you do not know when you quit a group, the time line goes straight till present time eventhough you have quit.
tested it on myself


Yes I know, but what should we do? Guess a date? :)
If I get something made about the "unsertain" dates (read the other thread Option to flag a date as "uncertain"? ) I will of curse use that info also.
2005-09-28 18:36
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Yes I know, but what should we do? Guess a date? :)
If I get something made about the "unsertain" dates (read the other thread Option to flag a date as "uncertain"? ) I will of curse use that info also.


Change at least the colour or mark it otherwise as "uncertain"
2005-09-28 20:33
Perff
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Posts: 1676
Quote: This is really cool!

However, if you check on timeline on Triad you have start date set from 1985 on members that doesnt have any join date. You should check this value against group build date, if set.

and if you already know about this, just ignore me.


Did what you sugested (i think), but then I found a minor problem.

If you check the timeline for Triad now, you will notice that there are three cracks The Last Ninja +2D, Slap Fight +2, Trans-Atlantic Balloon Challenge which are dated before the found-date of Triad.
Is this an error, or was there a specific story with these three cracks? :)
2005-09-28 20:56
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Those 3 cracks has been incorrectly added, the year should be 1987. I've fixed that now :)
2005-09-28 21:41
Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512
Really cool extra feature!!

But there is one thing I´d like to see.
I quit the scene in 1993 (not just being inactive) and returned in 2003.
But there is no way of showing this.
I guess a feature for this is quite usefull,I am probably not the only ´quiter´ to return.

(and how about that UFLI in ´graphic-mode´,read your mail,Perff) ;P
2005-09-28 22:46
CyberBrain
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Posts: 392
and how about that UFLI in ´graphic-mode´
oops, we forgot about that one. it's there now.
2005-09-28 22:53
Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512
Quote: and how about that UFLI in ´graphic-mode´
oops, we forgot about that one. it's there now.


Excellent, CyberBrain!

You just made my day! 8)
2005-09-29 07:10
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
Perff: thanx, amd now if I only got the time to fix the join/quit dates aswell..
2005-09-29 07:25
H.O
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Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 70
It's very nice, but, something messes up the timeline for TWL (The Warlocks)

For example, the entry "Fast Smashed" is displayed as july+august+september, despite having a release date in september and several members (for example Galleon) are displayed as members from July, despite having a later member date.

The other groups I have been in looks correct though.
2005-09-29 09:15
Perff
Administrator

Posts: 1676
Thanx for the bugreport. Problem fixed. :)
2005-09-29 13:33
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
I still want that the uncertain time lines are market as such!
2005-09-29 15:30
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
kewl feature!
2005-09-29 21:01
Perff
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Posts: 1676
Quote: I still want that the uncertain time lines are market as such!

I thought a bit about it. As I see it there are a total of 4 types then.
1. Total uncertain dates. No start or end date has been given. (These bars will typically go all the way across)
2. Partially uncertain. Either the startdate or end date is not given.
3. Both startdate and enddate are given, but not exactly. Fx. only the year are given, no month or day.
4. Precise date.

Only there are some cases which are a bit special. Fx. the leave date for a scener of a group are of course not given if the scener is still a member of the group, so such cases should be special treated.

All in all it's not as simple as it might seem. :)

About how to mark these types, I though about making the lines more or less "filled". Something like this:
  type1     type2      type3      type4
           #######    #######    #######
 #######              #######    #######
           #######               #######
 #######              #######    #######
           #######    #######    #######
           #######    #######    #######
 #######              #######    #######
           #######               #######
 #######              #######    #######
           #######    #######    #######

How does that sound?
2005-09-29 21:22
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Hehe, I was just about to suggest some different kind of textures, but now you were faster. :-)
Go for it, sounds good.
2005-09-30 11:56
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: I thought a bit about it. As I see it there are a total of 4 types then.
1. Total uncertain dates. No start or end date has been given. (These bars will typically go all the way across)
2. Partially uncertain. Either the startdate or end date is not given.
3. Both startdate and enddate are given, but not exactly. Fx. only the year are given, no month or day.
4. Precise date.

Only there are some cases which are a bit special. Fx. the leave date for a scener of a group are of course not given if the scener is still a member of the group, so such cases should be special treated.

All in all it's not as simple as it might seem. :)

About how to mark these types, I though about making the lines more or less "filled". Something like this:
  type1     type2      type3      type4
           #######    #######    #######
 #######              #######    #######
           #######               #######
 #######              #######    #######
           #######    #######    #######
           #######    #######    #######
 #######              #######    #######
           #######               #######
 #######              #######    #######
           #######    #######    #######

How does that sound?


That sounds great! Go for it! :) And thank you! :)
2008-11-27 23:12
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
i guess timeline doesn't work entirely till today. if we switch to group's timeline, lines don't end at the moment when member lefts a group.
2008-11-28 09:18
Perff
Administrator

Posts: 1676
Do you have an example?
2008-11-28 11:39
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/timeline/index.php?group_id=535&sday..

right here - my own group :D
2008-11-28 14:02
assiduous
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Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343
no dates are defined for when these ex-members left EXclusive ON. where should their lines end ?
2008-11-28 18:46
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
indeed. i missed that point i see ;)
2009-01-30 21:01
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
A group can't have members after it dissolved.
Yet, timelines of members that have no end-date set, will continue up till the day of watching the timeline itself ('today').
(The other way around: they don't start in 1982 either... see my point?)

BTW, it fucks up the scale of the timeline, too.

Please fix.

2009-06-09 13:56
The MeatBall

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 367
A bug?
When I look at my timeline (http://noname.c64.org/csdb/timeline/?handle_id=1017) Blood Money+8HD is shown without a date, so spanning the whole timeline. But the release is deleted (as it was a duplicate).
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