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2005-10-18 12:38
Bastet

Registered: Jul 2005
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4k game coding compo anyone?

Just gathering if anybody has interest in a 4k game coding compo.
It should be made from scratch using your favorite assembler.
Everything has to be done inside these 4k, no packers.
The only thing that dosnt count for the 4k limit is a basic loader, this makes the life of the judges easier.

So, what i need are some trustfull judges and people who want to participate.
Deadline would be the 15. January 2006.

Any interests?
 
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2005-10-19 09:50
Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
Haha this remembers me of some 40KB compo entry I saw once. In reality it was ~70KB, but the coders modified the file entry on disk so it would show 40KB when the directory was displayed :D
2005-10-19 09:56
TNT
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carlsson: the shortest BASIC loader is 10 bytes. That includes sys line and three trailing zeroes. Should load address be counted as part of BASIC loader?

If someone can start program with single digit SYS address then it can be shortened further :)
2005-10-19 10:50
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
Hm... Why not contribute to http://ffd2.com/minigame/ intead?
Its a pity when too many compos arise and the entries get worse. Well, I admit minigame-comp-deadline is pretty soon :)
Also I find 4K slightly too high. ALOT can be done in it and its hard to judge or optimize 4k of code (imho - im not that experienced).
Personally Id prefer 2K or something. Well or 1k :)
And I really think all that should count is the overall size and it should SOMEhow start in basic. Bei it basicheader or some weird autoload. Every other rule would simply make things complicated I think.
Also nice would be 4k but then the rule to code some AI in it as well :)
I miss that alot.
Maybe some tron-bot-compo?
Seen that in c once and it was fun and less common...
Whatever - have fun,
enthusi
2005-10-19 14:03
carlsson

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 41
I wonder if it is practically possible to make a whole game in ML in such way that you can execute it through the USR() function? :-)

10 POKE785,low:POKE786,high
15 A=USR(0):PRINT"[CLS]YOUR SCORE WAS: ";A
20 WAIT198,1:GOTO15

That's a rather long and obfuscated Basic "loader".
2005-10-19 14:13
Graham
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TNT: ofcourse load address counts to file length. I mean, you don't exclude exe headers on PC either, or hunk headers and reloc tables on Amiga.
2005-10-19 14:56
TNT
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Posts: 189
Load address of course is part of file length, but can you count it as part of *BASIC* loader as it's present even if you autostart with $0326 or some other vector?
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