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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
JCH NewPlayer 21.g4 beta
I febuary/march I decided to code a player for JCH's editor. Mostly because I was feeling like doing some tunes on the 64 again, after attending the X'2004 event. Basically I was annoyed by the tie-note syncronization problem with 20.g4 and just felt up to coding some 64 stuff again. For the past four, five months Drax has been testing the player, and given me some response as to what features to integrate into it and such. If there's any interest in trying out the player I'd release the present beta version with whatever bugs it suffers from. The player has been written from scratch and has some new features, and is roughly the same speed as the old one... So if people still use the JCH editor and find this interesing, please say so! I'd especially be interested in feedback in regards to bugs discovered and suggestions for features etc. |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Yeah, well.. most of the tunes he composed this year has been done with 21.g1/2/3/4.. |
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abaddon
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 28 |
one of the most annoying things in 20.g4 (apart from the tie-note bug) is the way slides are implemented. you cannot slide any arpeggiated instrument, you just get some weird noise, like the two effect-routines were trying to cancel each other out. i'm sure even most (c)1985 players did this right.
another one is the bug which occurs when setting a new note with new slide-command. the new note doesn't seem to be initialized at all.
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Nafcom
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588 |
Quote: Yeah.. it's not added.. Can I just upload it to here?
Yes you can. CSDb allows file uploading when you create an entry for a release :) |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
abaddon: ehrm... sliding arpeggiosounds... That's something that definately will sound crappy afterall :-)
guess the problem with sliding sounds that have some note-shifting is that you'd need different slide values for each arpeggiovalue -> messy code wasted on that.
However a little bit of vibrato on arpeggio-chords can sound ok, if you don't overdo it.
Anyways, just my opinion :-)
Laxity: You could also get your file(s) uploaded to somewhere on 6581(dot)dk, if you want. And just put some details about it on csdb, with download link. :-)
Anyways, guess you'll soon get my new editor, just need to do a few copy commands and perhaps a few more things to make it more userfriendly and finally I've gotta finish the discmenu ;-)
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
I second that.. Anyway, you can't slide arpeggios in NP21.g4 beta, and I'd rather not implement either!
I'm not sure I get what you mean with the slide bug note on thing? Maybe I never encountered it myself! |
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abaddon
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 28 |
Quote: abaddon: ehrm... sliding arpeggiosounds... That's something that definately will sound crappy afterall :-)
guess the problem with sliding sounds that have some note-shifting is that you'd need different slide values for each arpeggiovalue -> messy code wasted on that.
However a little bit of vibrato on arpeggio-chords can sound ok, if you don't overdo it.
Anyways, just my opinion :-)
Laxity: You could also get your file(s) uploaded to somewhere on 6581(dot)dk, if you want. And just put some details about it on csdb, with download link. :-)
Anyways, guess you'll soon get my new editor, just need to do a few copy commands and perhaps a few more things to make it more userfriendly and finally I've gotta finish the discmenu ;-)
i don't understand the need for different slidevalue.
you need one extra 16-bit variable to hold the current value of slide which then will be added to the "real" frequency of the note, after it has been set by arpeggio, vibrato or whatever.
you probably knew this already, which means i somehow missed your point
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
That's because the delta frequency isn't a constant value. The frequency doubles per. octave.. Let's say C-1 is 100, C-2 would be 200, C-3 400 and so forth.. Therefore you can't just apply the slide value to all notes and expect the arpeggio to remain in key... Only the base note will remain in key as expected. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Jeff: Don't forget to send your editor to me when it's (finally) finished ;) |
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Oh shit.. Didn't notice your hosting offer there, Jeff.. Until now that is!.. Will make a zip with the beta and docs tomorrow and mail it to you, than I'll create the entry as soon as you put it on: whattheheck(dot)spam.sux.badly.and.all.that.crap.dk :) |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
Laxity: good good, do so ;-)
Zyron: yep :-)
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