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2016-12-06 15:37
Trap

Registered: Jul 2010
Posts: 223
Limitations for sideborder sprites

Hi,

I'm doing some recreational coding and hit a small bump. Now, It's been a long time since I've done any serious sidebordercoding, but shouldn't it be possible to have 4 sprites in the sideborder while still having text (no d011 fiddling)? Right now I'm out of time for the badline so maybe it's not possible or I am not using the right sprites? (remembering there's some limitations depending on what sprites you use).

Would some kind soul enlighten me on the subject?

Thanks.

Trap
2016-12-06 15:48
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 452
yes 4 sprites ok with bl. no sprite 0 its dma fetch clashes with sb opening.

https://sh.scs-trc.net/vic/
2016-12-06 17:12
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 520
just forget the limits, Trap! limits are there to be broken, no need to be scared.
show us you can do 8 sprites in ze border with BL and no $d011 or REU tricks!
you do that and I hang a poster of you in my room! :)
2016-12-06 17:13
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146
Also this http://www.linusakesson.net/programming/vic-timing/victiming.pdf
2016-12-06 17:41
Axis/Oxyron
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 91
Just say the magic word: Impossible! And crossbow will appear in cloud of smoke.

Ok, stop kidding. Mixer is right. You can do 4 sprites in sideborder with badlines, if you avoid sprite 0. Took me weeks of try and error to realize this back in the days.
2016-12-06 20:34
Trap

Registered: Jul 2010
Posts: 223
Thanks guys.

Has anybody ever been able to have more than 4 sprites with BL?
2016-12-06 21:27
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 520
Limitations - Sprites in the Borders
2016-12-07 06:53
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Quoting Trap
Has anybody ever been able to have more than 4 sprites with BL?
Not to my knowledge, no.
2016-12-07 07:47
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014
Quote: Quoting Trap
Has anybody ever been able to have more than 4 sprites with BL?
Not to my knowledge, no.


If it is the finsl line of the sprites the you can do all eight! ;)
2016-12-07 15:37
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
Quoting JackAsser
If it is the finsl line of the sprites the you can do all eight! ;)


What is 'finsl'? First or final? I'd guess final.
2016-12-07 17:38
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014
Quote: Quoting JackAsser
If it is the finsl line of the sprites the you can do all eight! ;)


What is 'finsl'? First or final? I'd guess final.


Oh! Final yes
 
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