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metalux
Registered: Aug 2011
Posts: 17 |
Old university C64 programming courses?
I'm learning C64 assembler the hard way: reading tutorials, demo sources and forum posts, relatively non-academic in other words. While I do have access to some reference documentation, like the Commodore 64 Programmer's Reference Guide, a big C64 assembler bible would have been helpful. So, have anyone ever heard if there were any university c64 programming courses in the 80's? Have you heard of anything like that? Imagine writing an old C64 assembler exam! That would be fun.
It shouldn't be an impossible scenario. I myself have taken some funny university courses in programming languages like Haskell and MIPS assembly back in the days, but I've never heard of the Commodore 64 in the academic world. |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
http://www.the-dreams.de/aay.html has all I really need for looking up. http://codebase64.org is fine for quick lookups and http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/ has all the 80s magazines with their tutorials. For germans there is also http://magicdisk.untergrund.net/
I'd say nowadays there are enough "resources" out there and getting into assembler today is much easier as in the old days.
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metalux
Registered: Aug 2011
Posts: 17 |
Quote: http://www.the-dreams.de/aay.html has all I really need for looking up. http://codebase64.org is fine for quick lookups and http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/ has all the 80s magazines with their tutorials. For germans there is also http://magicdisk.untergrund.net/
I'd say nowadays there are enough "resources" out there and getting into assembler today is much easier as in the old days.
Thanks, yes, I know these resources. However, I was thinking more about the question whether there were any university courses or not. |
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Digger
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 437 |
Try looking for 6502 assembly courses, I've had it in my secondary school :) |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
The only piece of advice I can give you is to *not* read other people's source.
It's so much more fun when you figure out how something is done yourself. Why short-circuit the adventure?
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078 |
Around here they taught 6800/68HC11, 68000, and MIPS, but not 6502. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
here 8051/8085 was very popular (still is)... see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikrocomputer_für_Ausbildung |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 849 |
I wasn't at school in the 80s, but in the UK I doubt there were such thing as Commodore 64-based programming courses... I'm certain there were 6502 assembly courses at school, but were targeted more on British-made computers like the BBC Micro, which had a 6502 CPU.
These days, they don't even teach assembly language! It's all Java/C# now. I know because they scrapped 8086 material at my campus 3 years ago, thanks to the "Student Unions" who are basically incapable of getting their head down and study important material. Then again, not everyone out there thinks logically. I learnt 6502 the hard-way... hacking demos/games with Action Replay. |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
It was 6800 on those heathkit things here too MV |
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E$G
Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 842 |
In 1982 at school, computer science, we learned to program z80 and 6502 processors. We handled the machine code on Apple II ... then for amusemnt I used it later on my ViC20 and C64 :)
But after more than 20 years of inactivity my c64 memory map it's gone and most of commands gone too ...
Some of my oldskoolers friends have forgotten too .. how to crack & code ... we got to re-start studying!
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2980 |
As far as i know, C-64 was never used or taught at universities. What was and still is used and taught are multi-user Unix (and these days Linux, of course) machines and everything that comes with them.
Which is quite understandable, given that in those days, C-64 might have been a revolution in the home segment, but the technology was pretty much outdated by university standards already, given that they've had pre-emptive multi-tasking, memory protection, networking, advanced shells and toolchains and all that since like the 60s, not to mention vastly superior computing resources in terms of memory and processing speed. And they never cared much for sprites or 8-bit sound synthesis, either.
Conrad: assembly language is still taught at universities. Not in-depth, for obvious reasons, but it is required to a certain degree. |
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