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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732 |
Release id #166930 : Yoomp!64 +3PD
Moved the discussion to the place for discussions. :)
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Submitted by hedning [PM] on 2 August 2018
Backup board is invoked if one of the main boards is down during the whole 24h. How would it make sense otherwise? If Reflections was down one hour 03 in the morning just when you tried to upload your crack, the rest of the groups wouldn't notice, and lose just because one board was down for some time during the 24h. 24h rule must mean 24h. If one board is gone for 24h, the backup board goes into effect. That is logical to me. Especially as the race isn't over until 24h have passed.
If two or three (our four?) boards all have hickups during the 24h you mean there are no boards to be counted? Your view of the rules does not make sense. I will count the boards and the releases after 24h have passed. That will show who won the race.
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Submitted by Jazzcat [PM] on 2 August 2018
We were first on all boards and sites initially. During that time both Antidote and The Hidden were down, according to the rules, the backup site RapidFire is then invoked and we were first there (and Reflections) thus we were first on the majority of boards using the 24 hour rule. Regards. Note: you cannot re-invoke downed boards. When they are down, backup is in play.
User Comment
Submitted by hedning [PM] on 2 August 2018
Antidote and The Hidden were down for some time, but came up within the counted 24h when we tried to upload our crack, and we were able to be first on both. We also went with Reflections and the backup BBS Rapidfire, even if the latter is a bit redundant, as we already were first on 2 out of 3 counted boards within the counted 24h. Cheers! |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1045 |
Actually, no. It does not mention down for the entire 24 hour period.
The rule states:
"If one of the counted boards is down, The List then invokes a deciding fallback: The fallback BBS is RapidFire - telnet://rapidfire.hopto.org (Port: 64128)"
It is quite clear who is first as we know both Antidote and The Hidden had large problems (both down) and both sysops were at work (and during that time Onslaught were first on the remaining boards invoking the backup).
Nothing more from me on this one.
Cheers. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732 |
And that makes no sense. I will count the releases and the boards after 24h. Otherwise we will fall back to a lot of discussions about "this and that board was down then and then, exactly when I tried to upload. Boo-hoo". It will never work. 24h will count. Nothing else. That's it for me.
Spread your warez to all boards, don't give up until 24h have passed. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11391 |
The only relevant question is: what does matter for csdb and why is there no rule saying so? |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732 |
Quote: The only relevant question is: what does matter for csdb and why is there no rule saying so?
Does not matter for csdb at all. There are many discussions in the forums here not directly involving csdb per se. The one above is one example, only relevant for the boardsters. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11391 |
obviously it DOES matter - how else do you decide what release gets the "firstrelease" tag? |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
I will do something unnatural and agree 100% with WAT Groepaz said. |
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Fix
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 54 |
Antidote and The Hidden was down for several hours, until 22:15 or longer...
I know, since I tried to log on... |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
Jammer haha, sooo reminds me of colleagues this week telling me "Tim, you are 42.. Still listening to this bleepy bleep music, grow up".. followed by me saying.. Oh shut up, that's Jammer, he just won an award so I'm listening to his entire directory this week, keep complaining and I stop using headphones".. (no joke)
That said..
A first release has always been the pinnacle achievement of the cracking scene, with only a jewel version coming closer over the years..
As much as I realise a lot of demo sceners don't care (which coincidentally are the same sceners often complaining in pm's that we remove download links, but that's another topic) this discussion is actually important as it's obviously not only about one release, but the way 2 or 3 mags will count points/ruling.
Similar to say.. Oh I don't know, datastorm saying they'd only allow 6581 and x saying only 8580.. And coders telling you who cares, it all bleeps the same to me :p |
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