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2009-01-07 15:59
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 856
The sid stealing continues! ...

... and this times it's not Timberland, but Frankmusik:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWDLsuPK280&feature=related

Jeff/ViruZ identified at 2:20 that it's his "caste camelot.sid" playing right there in the new release "3 Little Words"!

Frankmus(uck)'s myspace channel: http://www.myspace.com/frankmusik

I'm really ashamed of my people! :/
2009-01-07 16:10
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3075
Let's wait for final decision in GRG versus TIMBO case (24th of Jan 2009) and then we'll see what can be (legally) done with those sid-arpegio-greedy bastards.
2009-01-07 16:34
Soren
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
Shame on the commercial musicians! ;-)

Castle Camelot was used in this old music collection:

Music Pack 1

2009-01-07 17:28
Fanta

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 28
i hope both musicians (i consider jeff as the better one :-) will get in contact and find a solution because another timbaland affair would suck and i can't see why commercial musicians are unable to get permissions when they want to use chip tunes.

cheers,

fanta
2009-01-07 17:45
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Hm, I'd rather see this as a hommage to Jeff than "stealing his tune". It's 4 bars used as a break, not like he's based his whole song on those. But I leave it to you how mad you want to get about this, to me this is not much of a big deal. I've heard it's called sampling and they do it a thousand times every day. Just my 2 c.
2009-01-07 17:50
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5126
what steppe said + *yawn*
2009-01-07 18:10
goto80

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 140
semi-yawn, but bare in mind that this is a proper commercial release on island records. (i am not sure why that feels different from an amateur doing it, but, yeah..) i even made a blog-post, hmm: http://chipflip.wordpress.com
2009-01-07 21:18
Soren
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
I am not mad about it at all - I just think it's a crappy tendency. I just think it's rather low of those people to not do the little job of digging out info to contact the original composers and ask. I am sure that in a case like this one I would just say, "go ahead and use it", but please give me some credits atleast." Name and nickname is usually in the sid file, anyways. :)

@Goto80: thanks for the blog-post. :)
2009-01-07 23:09
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3075
Goto80. Very decent post. Thanx for sharing. If I was ever using RSS reader you would be in instantly ;-)

roman
2009-01-07 23:54
Celtic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807
@Jeff: wait till he is successfull and sue his ass off :)
2009-01-08 03:13
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
Quote: Let's wait for final decision in GRG versus TIMBO case (24th of Jan 2009) and then we'll see what can be (legally) done with those sid-arpegio-greedy bastards.

GRG case is different. Much larger part of music is stolen.

This is just a short sample.
 
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