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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
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Locked Entries
I'm not sure if this is a bug, or a design flaw =) ...
When I lock a group, others can still add members to it.
Shouldn't it be possible to prevent others from adding anything to that group, be it members or releases or anything else?
Also, it would be useful to lock the releases of a group _with_ the group so I won't have to go through all the releases and set the maintainer? |
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Commander
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Well, about the real personnal facts of the group other people can't change this! But why should other people (when they add a scener) have no right to add a new group to this scener? So, I would say that Perff keeps this system like it is : it is perfect!!!!
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Commander
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Seven, is there someone who puts your (locked) group to a scener who you think he hasn't been in that group...?
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
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When I checked the Trans-X group entry today, someone added a scener called 'Myth' to it...
As I can be pretty certain that there never was a guy called 'Myth' in that particular group called 'Trans-X', I kicked that scener out of the group entry again. In fact, that particular Trans-X entry is complete when members is concerned.
The same goes for the Divine Deflection entry and the Calyx - I should know that.
So I just don't want anyone to add any (wrong) info to it just because some magazine editor fucked up in the past or someone read a scrolltext wrong.
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Commander
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Well, you're right. But mistakes can always happen (many groupnames have been used more times and also many sceners have been using the same handles), but I still think that this kind of system is still the best : everything is integrated! If you can block something completely, then there's no integration anymore. But if there's a mistake, you can always change that so it is no real big deal. If someone adds something wrong to my group, then I simply scratch it again (it is no big deal) and the person (who added the wrong info) knows that there could be something wrong or he can discuss it with the person who scratched it (in the comments-area!).
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Commander
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Seven : News on disk #2 !
I changed something there : I removed Avenger. Avenger of Role has never done something to this. I think that another Avenger was meant. I know that there was also an Avenger in The Netherlands, maybe it was him???
Avenger/Role only made paper-design.
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
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Commander: thanks, I'm pretty sure though that _I_ did not add Avenger/Role to the credits of News on Disk #2 ...
There we go again, people are adding stuff they have no idea about... the "correct" Avenger is a german guy, I even met him a couple of times, and I _think_ he later changed his handle to Chris, but as I'm not 100% sure about this I didn't add that to his entry...
And yes, maybe it is possible for you to check your groups entry and all the productions every week or something like that, but I neither have the time to do that nor do I _want_ to do that...
I agree that the general idea of this is to have many people collaborate on getting a huge database done, but some things just _are_ complete in a way or another, and having people with no clue adding wrong info does _NOT_ help the database in _ANY_ way...
example 1: Moskwa TV, a guy who's known for putting his own entry in front of everything, claiming to have cracked, imported and whatever, in fact was nothing but a high profile swapper with a way too big ego...
people who don't know about this might very well add e.g. cracks of "Roger Rabbit" to the group The Law-Breakers with Moskwa TV credited to cracking or importing...
wouldn't that be just wrong?
example 2: Kokomo was a fake-label of Digital Excess, the two games we released under that label were credited to Thomas and Arndt's girlfriends at that time...
someone with no clue might just delete Thomas and Arndt's credits to these games and instead add two girls because he read that names in the game itself...
wouldn't that be just wrong?
Hope I got my point across now =)
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Commander
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You are right! But you will have always these kind of problems because many fake-things happened in the scene where maybe even you don't know about. An I think : better a little informed as not informed. Also think about this : many people are also helping you and me with changing the info or mistakes, so you don't have to do it only on your own. Anyway, I understand your point, but I also hope you will trust more people to help you out. Locking too much isn't the solution because then some info will be kept uncomplete : I have seen already many locked groups which doesn't contain all the right information but I can't change/add it because it is locked (and some things can only be changed in the groups-corner). So it always stay a bit of a problem. We are all humans and humans make mistakes. That's why many of us are here to check all info out!!!
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Seven
Registered: Jan 2002
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Sure, but...
people should concentrate on adding new stuff and keep their hands off the group that someone knows more about, that's what the locking thing was done for in the first place...
I can add all the available info for my own group and own releases.. it might not be done all at once and I might add additional info at a later day, but it will be done...
for other groups, this is not the case.. and if you want to help out, find info on _those_ groups...
seriously (and this is not ment to be a personal insult, but this needs to be said), I don't see why someone copies info on my groups releases from my _own fuckin' webpage into this database when he _knows_ that I'm around here and will eventually add the available info myself...
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Commander
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When is someone sure about someone else knowing better about a certain group...? Not everybody checks out it if there's someone of a certain group already updating it or not!
I still think that it is making trouble for nothing, but okay, it's everybody's own choice and reason.
Anyway, I try not to cross your way concerning your group(s). Here at my place I have a big storage of c64-information which I now try to add to this great database.
I hope that later every (ex-) scener can find all what he has to know!
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Seven is damn right.... i have just corrected a LOT of wrong "info" that i infact already entered correctly some time before. Just like Seven, i DONT have the time to check all this shit daily, nor am i willing to do so. _I_ know what to add to the info of my group, and i dont have the slightest idea why some other guys think they know better. bah. LAMERS!
i request a feature that displays who made last changes on (whatever) entry in the database so i can kick his sorry ass next time he fucks it up.
pissed,
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