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2004-10-09 15:39

Antichrist/G★P
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Sex'n'Crime online

Sex'n'Crime is back. ;)

http://www.sexncrime.net/

2004-10-10 15:57

Ben
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I have enjoyed S'n'C a lot in the early days! I hope you can live up to the expectations, Oliver :)
Anyhow, good to see guys like you re-entering the scene. Good luck!

2004-10-15 14:31

Antichrist/G★P
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Thanks, Ben! :-)

2004-10-17 06:13

Tristan
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When I was a wee young importer way back then.... I loved reading s+c. Made lots of new contacts reading that mag. That resulted in lots of nice imports to the states.

2004-10-18 01:14

The Arrogance

Registered: May 2004
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Well, Oliver was really a bastard back then, though a smart and tricky one, but still a bastard! ;) Anyway, what i wanted to say is that with his magazines and the way he wrote 'em (or shall i say used 'em ?! ;)) he was definitly pushing many careers... in one direction or another. Therefore the people either hated him or admired him, some were even said that they had been sticking that deeply in his arse, that they were the first to know, what he has been eating a few hours before. ;) Admiration or hate, nothing neutral inbetween, though that could have naturally changed at any time. But hey, just think about what would have happened if he would not have started with Sex'n'Crime ?! The scene would have been a lot more grey-coloured i guess. It was just a question of time for something new after all that "loving and hugging eachother" in "Illegal" for example.. and there they had it, either laughing about the ones that were made looking stupid or hating him and building dozens of federations against him! This still makes me kinda smile! ;)

L8er.

2004-10-18 12:48

Antichrist/G★P
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Hmm, I don't think I was a bastard back then.

I do remember being on the phone with you a lot back then though, and I thought we were friends. You called me a lot, and I even interviewed you for Sex'n'Crime because we were friends. You never said a nasty word on the phone... and then one day I found out that you had released an anti-GP intro. That was the first time I found out you didn't like me. ;-)

2004-10-18 14:08

Master Jam
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I remember Sex'n'Crime... was one of the best mags back in the days. Nice to see it is back!!

Good Work Mate

2004-10-20 18:38

Antichrist/G★P
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Arrogance, I see you're up to your old tricks...

http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?p=4#comments

I'd think by now you wouldn't feel the need anymore to talk nice to me, and then write shit about me behind my back.

2004-10-21 12:25

The Arrogance

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 36

Quote: Arrogance, I see you're up to your old tricks...

http://www.sexncrime.net/index.php?p=4#comments

I'd think by now you wouldn't feel the need anymore to talk nice to me, and then write shit about me behind my back.

Well well, once again, another day, another Forum, once more defending myself against assumptions. Seems to be quite trendy these days..

@ Antichrist:

Oliver,

i am sorry, but this story somehow irritates me a little. No, to be honest, actually there are already two irritating entries in this Forum made by you. But let's get the things sorted one by another...

First of all, concerning my last entry in this Forum, i got the feeling that there's need for a short explanation, though i thought that you would understand my post the way it was meant. To call you a "Bastard" wasn't meant negativly, malicious or insulting. Much more it was my intention to state the opposite, and taking a close look on the rest of my post, you can obviously see, that it is a positive review of Sex'n'Crime and the way you did it. Honestly Oliver, in my eyes it turns out to be rather clearly, ain't it ?! Calling you a "Bastard" , with a smile in my face (therefore ending my statements with a smilie upthere), is almost meant the same ironic and smiling way, as having a smile on my face and calling my girlfriend a "bitch" ("Miststück"). In that case she would never come to the conclusion, that it could have been my intention to insult her. But nevertheless, fact is, that the word "bitch" can also be interpreted as some Synonym for "whore", but regarding my smile and in connection to the rest of my words/text, it is more than obviously, that it was not meant like that in the way it was said and how it was said. The same goes for calling you a "Bastard" and ending my sentence with a smilie. Ok ?! ;) I dont think that I have to remind anyone about the fact, that I surely didnt register to this Site to provoke childish quarrels or raised voices. Just like you, Oliver, I was part of a scene that is history and gone for good now, and I will surely take care not to drop back again into any old scene-typical behavior. In case someone wants to believe in still being a part of the scene and wants to revive old customs in handling eachother, may gladly do so, but I will surely not participate in any Hey, Im king, you better get down on your knees, Lamer! oldschool-scene-behaviors.

Now to the 2nd point. I should have released an Anti-GP-Intro ?! What the... who told you that really ridiculously, weak and senseless Fairy-Tale about "Me releasing an Anti-GP-Intro" ?! See Oliver, i don't remember the exact amount of Intros i have made in my active time, but it weren't many (at least not in comparison to other people in my groups), that's for sure. Hell, i was far to lazy to code Intros for my own groups, so why the hell should i have spent any effort (effort that i didn't even want to spent on coding Intros for my own groups) in coding an Anti-GP-Intro ?! Furthermore, what should has been the target i could have achieved with doing that ?! What i mean is, i don't even have the slightest idea right now what i should have used such an Intro for.. neither today, nor 10 or more years ago. and how comes you never ever said anything about that to me or simply asked me, if i had done such an Intro ?! This would have given me the chance to mabye clear up those assumptions. But anyway, being the thrustworthy and loyale person i believe i am, i can truly tell you now, that i never made any Anti-GP-Intro. I cannot see any reason, that would have been enough motivation to have done this Intro, because (using your words and returning them to you again): I thought we were friends, too. Hopefully the person, who tried to make you believe in that colourful fantasy, at least had a good and certain reason to spread such bullshit about me. Though i didn't know a single word about this assumption before i read your post and my time in the scene is gone for more than a decade now, something like this still makes me feel angry and dissapointed. Whatever, I didnt do any Anti-Intro. But how does that Intro look like and is there any resource i can get it from ?! At least once i wanna see the Intro i should have done, but didn't do...

As i have already written far too much text anyway, i will come to an end, just giving you my point of view on your suspicion, that i should have written all the text at the Sex'n'Crime Forum, hiding myself cowardly behind a wrong name, officially talking nice to you and acting friendly, in order to talk badly about you behind your back. In case this would be the truth, i should really follow the advice Captain Kidd gave me a few weeks ago in some other Forum and better get some professional help, because than i should not take it too easy or make fun out of my situation, as suffering some serious brain-damage requires straight psychological and medical treatment.

Oliver, which Daemon took possession of you that you completely out of a sudden come up with such an idea and believe that I would actually play such ridiculous and childish games ? It is the year 2004 and i have already passed the age of 30 and therefore i consider myself a grown up adult, which of course aswell indicates acting like a grown up adult, instead of behaving like a dumb teenager. Not even when i was some 18 or 19 year old scener back in 1990 i would have acted like this, lacking the slightest touch of creativity and niveau. I have always despised people, that were hiding themselves behind any other names, just because they did not have the balls to stand up for what they were saying/doing. But then again, it is nothing unusal.. or did you ever see any coward taking over responsibility for anything ?! That's why he's a coward. Although i have no idea what your assumption is based on, you can believe in my words without any doubt that it wasn't me who wrote that crap at your Forum.

I know Oliver, people are talking a lot and "words only" mostly prove nothing. So i would really like to get some light into that story, because now i am into it and i would really like to see my formerly white waistcoat being completely cleaned to white again. And perhaps you will even show a strong and fair character and say "Sorry" in public (CSDb), just like you were pointing at me so easily and fast at CSDb and your Sex'n'Crime-Forum.

Ok, in order to weaken the suspicion and to give you a proof, that I was neither responsible for the entries (at your Forum) made as "Gotcha", nor for those as "Dark Man", I would like to ask you to post (into this Forum please) that certain IP-address, which you brought into connection with my person. Since you are the opinion that this IP is mine anyway, I gladly permit you to publish this IP address here. Thanks.

Awaiting your help and cooperation to devide assumptions from facts.

Off for some business.

2004-10-22 04:49

Antichrist/G★P
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Your IP address on Sex'n'Crime was: 217.86.97.14

And the old anti-GP intro I'm referring to was the imitation of our "Europe's #1" intro. Back then, Success replaced the circling stars sprites with a sprite that said "Fuck GP" or something like that.

When I later asked you why your group did that, you said it was just for fun.

2004-10-24 14:43

The Arrogance

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 36

@ Antichrist

About the Anti-GP-Intro, well now i remember that we were talking about that topic on the phone back then, although i cannot certainly recall anything in detail about that conversation anymore. Did i say that it was me who had done this Intro ?! If i could just remember.. it's too long ago.

About the IP..
Ok, here is what CyberBrain mailed to me after i requested him to check the Log-Files for the period from 19th of October till 21th of October, because one of so called "Gotcha's" last posts looks like this:

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Still one of those unloved persons? Get real, OMG.

Comment by Gotcha 10/20/2004 @ 10:59 am
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These are the Log-Files from CSDb, mailed to me by CyberBrain:

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all your IP-adresses seem to be on the form: 217.86..., 217.233..., 62.180..., 195.182...

On the 19th-20th you used:

#2485 The Arrogance 22/10-2004 22:44.47 22/10-2004 23:03.37 00:18.50 217.233.165.88
#2485 The Arrogance 22/10-2004 21:22.04 22/10-2004 21:24.39 00:02.35 217.233.165.88
#2485 The Arrogance 22/10-2004 19:15.35 22/10-2004 19:41.25 00:25.50 217.233.165.88
#2485 The Arrogance 22/10-2004 02:09.58 22/10-2004 02:23.42 00:13.44 217.86.96.175
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 19:17.31 21/10-2004 19:33.03 00:15.32 217.86.96.175
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 18:34.32 21/10-2004 18:49.46 00:15.14 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 16:05.57 21/10-2004 16:06.53 00:00.56 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 15:08.36 21/10-2004 15:08.36 00:00.00 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 14:02.12 21/10-2004 14:33.29 00:31.17 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 12:22.21 21/10-2004 12:22.21 00:00.00 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 11:57.14 21/10-2004 12:21.51 00:24.37 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 03:54.07 21/10-2004 04:09.57 00:15.50 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 21/10-2004 00:22.07 21/10-2004 00:22.07 00:00.00 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 22:32.41 20/10-2004 22:32.54 00:00.13 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 21:32.19 20/10-2004 21:53.48 00:21.29 217.86.100.92
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 16:16.02 20/10-2004 16:54.11 00:38.09 62.180.231.196
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 16:15.56 20/10-2004 16:15.56 00:00.00 62.180.231.196
#2485 The Arrogance 20/10-2004 16:15.49 20/10-2004 16:15.52 00:00.03 62.180.231.196
#2485 The Arrogance 19/10-2004 19:32.38 19/10-2004 22:22.51 02:50.13 217.233.190.234
#2485 The Arrogance 19/10-2004 17:28.16 19/10-2004 17:48.45 00:20.29 217.86.100.110

But CyberBrain also made me aware of the fact, that i had really used the IP you wrote in your last post to log onto CSDb once, not in the period from 19th - 21th, but days before. Here is the log about this one:

#2485 The Arrogance 12/10-2004 23:21.17 13/10-2004 01:14.46 01:53.29 217.86.97.14
#2485 The Arrogance 12/10-2004 21:34.43 12/10-2004 22:42.00 01:07.17 217.86.97.14
#2485 The Arrogance 12/10-2004 20:42.01 12/10-2004 20:46.05 00:04.04 217.86.97.14
#2485 The Arrogance 12/10-2004 20:41.41 12/10-2004 20:42.57 00:01.16 217.86.97.14

this is the only day you've used 217.86.97.14
to log on to CSDb. (CyberBrain)
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Well, i cannot really see any connection to those posts at your Forum, except that i had owned that certain IP a few days earlier.. as a matter of fact, that i do not own a static IP, but get a new one whenever i restart my DSL-Router or my ISP disconnects the connection after a certain period and therefore my Router immediatley reconnects to my ISP again, it is quite obvious now, that i did not do any posts as "Gotcha" in the time they were done at your Forum, because my IP already wasn't the same anymore. By the way, any IP out of that IP-number-range is given out by DTAG whenever they are free to be used by the next customer to log in. The only thing that can be said for sure, is that this IP was definitly used by a german, who is a customer of DTAG (T-Online), too.

Again Oliver, it wasn't me and i hope you might believe in my words now. See, it would not make any sense at all to do such stupid things, at least not for me. It must have been someone that really dislikes you very much, and this criteria does not fit on me, does it ?! I am here for the fun of meeting old people again and taking a look at the things that were produced back then, but definitly not to revive any old disagreements to argue about.

L8er.
Thomas.

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