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2007-02-13 09:00
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Graphic Charts

Heythere,

i was just looking at the current top gfx artist rankings here and i had the urge to just bitch about some of the best gfx artists on the c64 being ranked way to low.

Dont get me wrong, there are many talented people around today.

But artists of the caliber of a Paul Docherty or Bob Stevenson would mop the floor with the majority of the people in the top 10 in any of the various gfx subsections.

And by the way, wtf is it with full screen gfx artists and normal gfx artist i mean give me a break its all the same to me.

You may disagree, thats fine. Bite my shiny metal ass.



2007-02-13 09:11
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
I disagree a bit about the first part but since it's a matter of personal taste, I'll stop right here. Charts on CSDb are a kind of fucked up anyway, you shouldn't take it for granted...

As for the "Fullscreen Graphicians"-chart, I asked just too many times to remove that totally pointless thing but noone responded till now.
2007-02-13 09:15
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
I disagree a bit as well, but just a bit. :-) I think the musician-chart is way more off than the gfxian ones.

(And of course the distinction between normal and fullscreen graphicians is stupid. What is fullscreen anyway?)
2007-02-13 11:52
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
Looking at some of the people below them, I personally think Bob Stevenson and Paul Docherty are a little fortunate to be as high as they are! I'm not saying they weren't great at the time, but a lot of their work can look a little dated by today's standards. Obviously it's hard to compare directly as they never had the luxury of FLI or some fancy hires mode, but I'm sure I could pick out 10 people who, IMO, have done better work in plain old multicolour bitmaps than they did. You also have to remember that many of their most memorable pictures were nothing more than straight copies of game artwork.

I agree about the pointlessness of fullscreen graphician though. I never added it to my own profile for that very reason.
2007-02-13 12:39
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quoting Deev
I agree about the pointlessness of fullscreen graphician though. I never added it to my own profile for that very reason.
Yep, but people could still vote for roles you've never specified as your own. Another annoying usability malfunction that's being ignored for a pretty long time.

There was another topic where we have agreed that the fullscreen graphician function should be removed but nothing ever happened.

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2007-02-13 13:01
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Quote:
I'm not saying they weren't great at the time, but a lot of their work can look a little dated by today's standards


The same could be said about many demos.

Obviously the rating system is undoubtedly imperfect, seeing that a hugh riley or paul docherty being able to score lower than f.ex. hydrogen.

I mean, come on.

2007-02-13 19:42
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 946
I'm also old-fashioned and my favorite oldies are the ones doing pixels before the 90s. Especially the game graphic artists, who obviously didn't do copies, deserve a higher rank in the charts. I especially like Riley's ingame background graphics in many games, such as Predator or Bangkok Knights. Many other Euro-trash like Stevenson, Levy, Binn, Docherty did ingame gfx as well. Or how about US hero Sachs?

Anyway, no matter what ranking, I still enjoy looking at those old games.
2007-02-13 22:48
The Phantom

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360
I have to say that I also think full screen artistry is the same as anything else. In all seriousness, GRAPHICIAN covers it all, doesn't it?!
2007-02-13 23:14
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494
I agree that "fullscreen graphician" category doesn't make sense and should be removed.
2007-02-14 01:15
fade
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290
Just want to add that it's different drawing a great set of titties and doing lettering.
2007-02-14 06:21
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
Yeah, it's a never ending cold war: Do we vote a 10 for demos that were a 10 "back then" but look a little dated, or do we compare them to today's productions? Personally I go with the latter, just as I do with movies or music.
 
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