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2003-02-27 00:18
fermhg
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Who are the better programmers?

This is my question: Who are the better programmers?
 
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2006-03-11 23:41
TDJ

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Quote: i've read 100 tips and tricks in 46er magazin

46er magazin? Is that like 'Dolce & Cabana' clothing, not quite like the original?
2006-03-12 00:35
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
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Quote: 46er magazin? Is that like 'Dolce & Cabana' clothing, not quite like the original?

I guess he read the fake label version of 64er.
2006-03-12 00:40
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I guess for most of the scene coders, Xbow = God. He made such a truckload of cool, innovative routines which really pushed the old cpu to the limit. Impossible is a magic word for him - it makes him want to actually do it, and he always succeeds. However, his forte are rastertiming routines, which most people consider "oldskool" these days.

Enter Graham. He's my favourite because he was the first to realise "newskool" effects at big resolutions and speeds. The distorter in Parts still kills me =D, Dawnfall dropped several jaws upon its release (I'm still looking for mine), Oneder was a wonder and let's not forget all the Coma Lights he and TTS (another killer coder who went on to Amiga and beyond) created.

Those are the "arche-coders" as far as I'm concerned (I'm not talking about game coders, of which some were also really good). Which brings me to the "new generation":

Krill is extremely good at Graham's routines, and manages to take them a step further or come up with very interesting variations. Oswald has big, fast vectors through various optimisation tricks and made the most incredible Phong face ever seen in lots of colours. He's also not scared of the odd math effect. HCL is a great all-round coder - I've seen him do anything from oldskool to newskool and maths. Ninja, who I had the pleasure to meet at Breakpoint, made a few very nice pieces of code, no contest, and some sweet 256b routines. WVL, whose next demo is greatly anticipated. And, best of all - he's a physicist like me, so he actually is the very best coder out there ;) ;) ;). Cruzer, a very good coder from ways ago, comes back and keeps the goodness coming.

... those are some great coders I respect (and can come up with at the moment). Don't shoot me for forgetting a few (I left out the coders from my groups for the obvious reason, but I respect them all a lot as well).
2006-03-12 06:42
Style

Registered: Jun 2004
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You forgot me. My 1x1 scroller is teh rular. Or at least it wouldve been had I not run out of rastertime halfway across the screen.
2006-03-12 06:55
Wanderer
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Quote: You forgot me. My 1x1 scroller is teh rular. Or at least it wouldve been had I not run out of rastertime halfway across the screen.

You're credited with four releases that were written thirteen years ago. What's your excuse for even being here? Oh yea, Chrome is a forum sceners group :)

2006-03-12 07:13
Style

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Didnt you leave?

2006-03-12 07:58
stash
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wdr+secretman= ghost unit
2006-03-12 09:25
Wanderer
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Quote: Didnt you leave?



I found a few small programs of mine that needed uploading on an FTP site. Tonight I've deleted my beloved CCS64. So this will be my final login to CSDB. The password is set to be changed by my maintainer so only they can access it for the odd upload, etc.

Before I go though, I should really leave you with some food for thought. :D

The first thing I did when I came back to the C64 was immediately work on new material. When it came out, both you and Slarti McStalker criticized it where most others appreciated the effort. When I looked to see what you two were capable of doing, I saw NOTHING but a 13 year period of nothing. Beyond lame. What work I did see, was really weak coding though. So I suppose it's just as well that you insult other people's code with nothing to show for yourself :D Personally I think you're too afraid to even try.

Slarti once stated in a message that Chrome is Australia's only demo group. I disagree; Chrome isn't a demo group, it's a forum group. W00t! :)

As much fun as the two of you were to slap around (you did choose to attack me first), Slarti practically begged me the other day to stop. It was the icing on the cake and coincided nicely with my decision to stop programming too. It was like he reached the breaking point at the same time I chose to stop coding. Poor guy won't even bring my handle up any more like he used to, but I suspect once I leave he will do it in bouts for months to come :) Anything to ease the pain.

So try to put something out in the next 13 years okay Simon? That way if I find more time to code and decide to resume coding, I can compare it to something post-1993.

Cheers! And yes you may have the last word.
2006-03-12 10:05
Style

Registered: Jun 2004
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God, still crying. You have no clue what we're up to - but Im not gonna bother defending myself to a dickweed.

Is this the last last last time youre leaving? Really? Really really?

Bye bye then
2006-03-12 10:08
Slartibartfast
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Quote: I found a few small programs of mine that needed uploading on an FTP site. Tonight I've deleted my beloved CCS64. So this will be my final login to CSDB. The password is set to be changed by my maintainer so only they can access it for the odd upload, etc.

Before I go though, I should really leave you with some food for thought. :D

The first thing I did when I came back to the C64 was immediately work on new material. When it came out, both you and Slarti McStalker criticized it where most others appreciated the effort. When I looked to see what you two were capable of doing, I saw NOTHING but a 13 year period of nothing. Beyond lame. What work I did see, was really weak coding though. So I suppose it's just as well that you insult other people's code with nothing to show for yourself :D Personally I think you're too afraid to even try.

Slarti once stated in a message that Chrome is Australia's only demo group. I disagree; Chrome isn't a demo group, it's a forum group. W00t! :)

As much fun as the two of you were to slap around (you did choose to attack me first), Slarti practically begged me the other day to stop. It was the icing on the cake and coincided nicely with my decision to stop programming too. It was like he reached the breaking point at the same time I chose to stop coding. Poor guy won't even bring my handle up any more like he used to, but I suspect once I leave he will do it in bouts for months to come :) Anything to ease the pain.

So try to put something out in the next 13 years okay Simon? That way if I find more time to code and decide to resume coding, I can compare it to something post-1993.

Cheers! And yes you may have the last word.


Um, your "maintainer"?

BTW, I didn't actually get in touch with you at all WDR, who knows what that's about.

Anyway, I don't think any of us have a last word for you, sorry.

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