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fermhg
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Who are the better programmers?
This is my question: Who are the better programmers? |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
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..as if _V_ would know shit about coding ;). Myself, i'm not so interested in who is the *best* coder. I'm more demo-oriented, and then it's more a question of being able to cooperate with odd and strange people, like.. musicians and graphichans ;). You don't need to be the best of anything to make the best demos. |
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T.M.R
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The best coders are the ones who get stuff finished... =-) |
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Monte Carlos
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 359 |
i never get my stuff finished...
but hopefully time will come!
Monte |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
You and me both pal. Ive got so much unreleased code Im thinking perhaps I should make something out of it all :) |
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_V_
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Krill, HCL: Whoops, I must apologise for having a _personal opinion_. At no point did I claim that mentioned coders were only good in mentioned areas. It are simply the areas in which they created parts that had a great impact on me, personally, and which I still enjoy to watch to this day. The post was _not_ a general, objective, scientific overview of the c64 demo coding scene, it was a subjective shoutout to coders I respect (and the parts I respect them for).
But, if _that_ can be interpreted as a sort of insult (and apparently, it can), then know that I'd be more than happy to continue the profanities. Because those are _my_ two cents. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
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_V_: Ah no insult taken :D I understood your point now. Go on :D |
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Bone
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Best demo coder is Mr.Mad from Wiseguy Industries 2015.
New Record+ is a good example
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Best demo coder is Mr.Mad from Wiseguy Industries 2015.
New Record+ is a good example
Absolutely. Now gimme some of them xtc pills you've obviously been taking. |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440 |
The topic of this thread is soo... sooo.... *DUMB*
we have to take "evolution" into the approach to find a answer fitting to this question...
What I mean is, f.e. Lukullus/FCS did some fancy Border-Effects in the middle 80ties any coder today can code in 15 minutes,
but switch back 20 years ago and count the coders that could have done the same back then??? Just a few...
Or f.e. take into consideration the "age" a coder has reached,not physically but scenewise... coders hangin around for over 15 years or even longer.. In this comparison I guess Krill has gone very far in a short period of time.
In my very own opinion those coders who did most especially FOR the evolution are the "best" and therefore the "ANCIENT" ones deserve the spot.
So maybe we should just name those who brought the special "Chapters" of C64-coding to the maximum. (Math, VIC-Fx, etc.)
And they are far too many to name 'em all :)
And remember: This is just MY personal opinion...
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Wile Coyote
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If i had a gun held to my head and i had to pick one coder that is good interms of pushing the Commodore 64 to the limit in terms of making me think 'hows that done?' then i would have to go with Crossbow.
The very first ifli image i got to see was of Samfox, i think it was the 1st ifli on the Commodore 64. The image was possibly wired, as i don't think there was an ifli editor around at the time. Uzzy of Entropy was there speaking about the image and how there was zero raster time left and there was talk of, well i can't see ilfi's taking off and appearing in demos. Then some time after, Krestology apprives and we get to see ifli's scrolling up and down, stretch, sprites moving over the top, upper and lower borders open. Crossbow behind it all. Then after Crossbow does it, other coders manage it.
Other then Crossbow, Graham is very good too, and from what i can gather better then Crossbow in the 3D area, as that's Crossbows weakness.
The Samfox ifli, i don't know what the demo is called. I think it is just a single prg file. |
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