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2011-04-21 20:33

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

Taming the 6510

I've been asked to do a 5-minute TED session next month in front of the whole company (~150 people), and I thought I would do it on ways to program ML for the c64 throughout the years.

Starting out with basic (peek & poke), using the cartridge monitor, turbo assembler, cross developing using 2 connected c64s, cross developing using another machine connected to a c64, coding everything on a pc using Vice and finally ending with KickAss (as my firm is very Java oriented that last one will probably take very well).

Now, am I forgetting something? Does anybody know if such a list is already present somewhere? Are there better terms that I could use (somehow I feel I used to know these things by different names)?

Thanks in advance.

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2011-04-21 21:18

Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 437

@Skate: What's the trick? Dutch Breeze finger one? ;-)

2011-04-21 21:19

doynax
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Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 212

So how was the original C64 software, such as the Kernal and 1541 ROMs, developed? Did Commodore use a cross-assembler on a minicomputer or could the PET handle it?

2011-04-21 21:21

Celtic
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807

is it a la TED or is it actually TED, and if yes, will it be recorded? :)

2011-04-21 21:47

Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424

Quote: So how was the original C64 software, such as the Kernal and 1541 ROMs, developed? Did Commodore use a cross-assembler on a minicomputer or could the PET handle it?

But then how was the PET ROM developed? At some point the bootstrapping tool was a piece of paper and a pencil...

2011-04-21 21:52

JCB
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Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241

Chuck Norris kicked the first computer into life, that's why it's called "boot-ing"..

2011-04-22 08:46

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

@Werner: thanks, SMON was one of those things that I was looking for. And I might even borrow your POKEmon joke ;)

@Skate: I'm not going into so much detail, and I sure as hell am not going to finger my c64 in front of my boss :Z

@Celtic: yes, it will be a real TED session, and yes, it will be videotaped, but for internal use only.

2011-04-22 08:57

JCB
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Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241

Not sure if you're aware of PDS (Programmers Development System) but it was one of the most popular cross dev systems at the time. If a software house didn't make their own they were probably using PDS.

2011-04-22 09:01

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

@JCB: I wasn't aware of it, but it's something I'll definitely look into, thanks.

2011-04-22 10:37

daison

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 90

Quoting Skate