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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2242 |
What's an import?
As one of your favourite mods Count Zero keeps cracking his head about the CSDb crack sub category "Import", let's help him, so he finally can focus on more productive issues.
Here's some rotten forum freds frome around a decade ago on how it emerged:
- Adding the cracker group to import/trainer version (Rough raising the question how to distinguish group-b-introlinked cracks originally made by group-a from group-a's release)
- Suggestion: New release type "C64 Import" (bepp calling for a new release type)
- PAL to PAL imports (Didi's view, especially doubting Imports without Video Standard fixes make sense)
So do we need the "Import" flag at all?
Should we limit it to the days when BBSes and snailmail were the only way of getting cracks across borders and oceans?
Is a crack made in one Western German city intro-linked in another Western German city an import?
Do we need another category/flag ("Lame Intro Linked Version without any advantages over original crack") instead?
Do more categories/flags really make things clearer or rather create more confusion?
Now go, fight. |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
My view: "Imports"/"importing" should only be considered the trade (connection) between the US and Europe and vice-versa. The rest simply does not matter and is largely composed of "lamer stuff", which should be tagged/recognised in a different manner to "importing".
Note: From a historical perspective: Fucked Beyond Repair (FBR) (and maybe The Survivors) were some of the more famous EARLY importing groups. In the North American scene, the concept of "importing" AND "cracking" (by the same group) wasn't that popular until the late 80s. Cracking was considered far more "elite" than importing (with the latter considered a step-down/no skill required). This changed, particularly with the focus of "NTSC fixing" and the recognition of "fixing" in early mags such as Influx or Chaos Chronicle. |
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chancer
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 347 |
had a few of the BYG things put out in italy as "imports"
sorry , it's not bringing anything to the table.. ntsc fixing etc. different matter..
technically , yes it's in a foreign land.. but I don't see it any different from me slapping my intro in front of a derby ram / tri dos etc / bod intro.
semantics.. it's imported.. but nothing extra has been done. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2242 |
Just stumbled over
Overlander +3
and thought, better post it here as a proof, even totally silly re-imports having only 2 importing groups intros (one PAL one NTSC, none of them fixed) left but original intro stripped - not exist not only in Count Zero's nightmares, but they _ARE_ out there. |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
Only getting Wet Dreams (NTSC fixed! - unimported!) from Import by Vision - Generic Import-Demo for anything on the disc! SO COOL! :)
Labeled with "C64 Misc." - oh my :( |
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