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2023-11-29 00:23
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Event id #3365 : Lovebyte 2024

Lovebyte is coming :)

As the C64 is still underrepresented in this sizecoding-dedicated demoparty (a little less last year with my humble efforts ;) ), please consider joining the competitions with your tiny entries :) It would be so awesome to witness more Commodore entries from seasoned, active coders! Our platform really gives a nice challenge when it comes to those tiny intros ;)
 
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2023-12-07 10:40
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting chatGPZ
I skipped PETSCII to spare you the embarrassment of telling us how it doesn't count, when they have been merged into the ASCII/ANSI compo (together with Amiga BBS gfx) at Revision (where it's even called ASCII/ANSI/PETSCII), Evoke, and many others, for many years.


OK, so I wasted some of my time to test your claim with Evoke.
All old webs for Evoke are available at https://www.evoke.eu/20xx/ or similar.

1997 - cannot retrieve compo rules, but no PETSCII entries
1998 - cannot retrieve compo rules, but no PETSCII entries
1999 - cannot retrieve compo rules, but no PETSCII entries
2000 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2002 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2003 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2004 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2005 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2006 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2007 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2008 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2009 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2010 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2011 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2012 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2013 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2014 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2015 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2016 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2017 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2018 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2019 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2022 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries
2023 - no mention of PETSCII in ASCII/ANSI compo rules, no PETSCII entries

So, who's embarrassed now? Your claim, your example - your bullshit.

Revision - PETSCII allowed since 2017. Let us remember this party is existing since 1997.

Waiting for the "many others".
2023-12-07 10:52
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting wacek
You made it a pointless, asenine discussion on different things.

It should say "it was made into a pointless, asenine discussion", it sounds too direct at Krill, which was not my intention.
2023-12-07 10:59
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Quoting wacek
Quoting wacek
You made it a pointless, asenine discussion on different things.
It should say "it was made into a pointless, asenine discussion", it sounds too direct at Krill, which was not my intention.
OP was an advertisement and an invitation to join and submit releases, without any discussion talking points obvious to me.

So not sure what kind of discussion you expected to spring from this (if at all), maybe just various "Yeah! Count me in!" fluff posts? :)
2023-12-07 11:32
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Quoting wacek
OK, so I wasted some of my time to test your claim with Evoke.
You conveniently picked the most PC-centric with everything else an afterthought party of them all. =)

Quoting wacek
Revision - PETSCII allowed since 2017. Let us remember this party is existing since 1997.
Revision exists since 2011. Breakpoint was another party, as well as Mekka + Symposium.

Quoting wacek
Waiting for the "many others".
Deadline had PETSCII since 2014.
2023-12-07 12:24
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting Krill
OP was an advertisement and an invitation to join and submit releases, without any discussion talking points obvious to me.

I stated that C64 is underrepresented. That could be a hint on possible discussion topic ;) but to follow:

Quote:
So not sure what kind of discussion you expected to spring from this (if at all), maybe just various "Yeah! Count me in!" fluff posts? :)

Yeah, exactly right, people who are interested to participate, maybe someone wanted to know some details (fe. if for C64 releases header/loadadd is included? is BASIC startline expected? those are important aspects when talking 16b).
By the way, there are "calls for actions" about most parties, Syntax, Mysdata, nobody has any problems with that - the only difference this was a post, not news on main page. Strange, no?
2023-12-07 12:46
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting Krill
You conveniently picked

I did not pick shit - Groepaz did, explicitly in his post, mention 2 parties and "many others". I took the one that has longer history under one name ;)

Quoting Krill
Revision exists since 2011. Breakpoint was another party, as well as Mekka + Symposium.

The organizers state those are a continuation... sorry I don't have an PhD in the history of the German demoparties.

Quoting Krill
Deadline had PETSCII since 2014.
So let's assume we have 3. Yay! How many multiplatform parties are there? ;) <joke> I might guess there could be more parties with the overhead projector category </joke>.

But seriously guys, I don't have enough free time really to continue this discussion. I understand you don't care and won't participate. Fine. Let call this a time entertainingly wasted and call it a day. Thanks.
2023-12-07 13:36
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3003
Quoting wacek
maybe someone wanted to know some details (fe. if for C64 releases header/loadadd is included? is BASIC startline expected? those are important aspects when talking 16b).
Okay, so would something like Srpnsk [16 bytes] be a-okay with Lovebyte rules, and does the load address ($0082) count? :)
2023-12-07 16:07
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11442
lol

Regarding Evoke: They were always open to accept PETSCII too. But there were no entries. Ever - Indeed.
2023-12-08 12:18
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting Krill
Okay, so would something like Srpnsk [16 bytes] be a-okay with Lovebyte rules, and does the load address ($0082) count? :)


In case of 8b,16b,32b,64b header is excluded. So in fact you'd have some extra bytes to spare ;)
128b,256b,512b,1024b,256b gfx,256b game header is included in the size.

For all entries you don't need a basic startline, you just attach info on what SYS command starts the entry.
2023-12-08 12:28
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 518
Quoting chatGPZ
Regarding Evoke: They were always open to accept PETSCII too. But there were no entries. Ever - Indeed.
How suprising that you get no entries since you don't communicate properly that they are even welcome :) I always come to parties with my hard worked releases for the compos that are not listed by the organizers. LOL fucking indeed xD
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