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2007-06-08 21:13
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Information should be free

Quoting Managing information in CSDb

2. The information regarding entries belongs to those who the information is about. A person "owns" the information about his scener-profile, and the information of his/hers releases and the groups he/she is/was member of.
3. If any person who "owns" information doesn't want the information in CSDb it is totally their rights to remove it, and should be respected. This means that if you have any doubts that the person who owns the information does not want it in CSDb, you must not add it, and also that this person have the right to delete the information at any time.


To be honest, I was never fully aware of these rules until Baracuda kept throwing them around, and I can't say anything else than that I don't agree with them at all ..

Just remember: the scene is bigger than the people that are (or were) part of it.
 
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2007-06-09 18:25
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036
Quote: btw, while adding that kind of features.... it might be very helpful imho to have an additional type of comments (additionally to the "comments", "trivia" etc) for every entry that can be used to report all sorts of problems, inconsisties etc for an entry. right now many ppl use the regular comments for this, but having it seperated would make it a lot easier to check and browse.

Nice idea. I think it could be implemented as a sort of release-related bug-report which could be "ticked out" if correction is made. There could be a list of unsolved problems for users and admins to selects from, if they feel like cleaning out the mess.

That would eliminate stumbling upon such requests by chance and increased the possibility that there could be someone between the user, who could be able to provide the necessary data/info.

Unfortunately, what might seem like easy to us, can be few hours of coding for programmer, so it really depends on Perff what he will pick up from the to-do list. But I will try to suggest this to him if he misses it here.
2007-06-09 21:37
Perff
Administrator

Posts: 1666
I hear.
Like the idea.
Should this be implemented as some free-text field to each entry (like trivia), which could contain all bugs/issues and each bug could then be removed when fixed. (very easy to do)
Or should it be some smarter system like I think I hear you sugest, where each problem have it's own seperate "entry" in the database, and could be ticked out. (bigger coding job)
?
2007-06-09 22:02
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148
a seperate textfield is ok i guess...the most important (and useful) feature would be the possibility to list all entries with such problems, so you can go through them one after the other.
2007-06-28 11:22
BAR.
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324
OH, yes the informations should be free, that's while i added the infos to the groups. Seems someone didn't like that because now you know what's up with the "Heroes".
Anyway if anyone likes to know more about a person look at exotica, google or ask me. ;)

I can't understand why it was removed ?
You wanted the infos be free.

Because of the real names ?
You can find them everywhere f.e. in the net, on disk..

If there were mistakes you missed the chances years ago to
blame the sources.
2007-06-28 11:27
BAR.
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324
http://www.exotica.org.uk/info/scenery/online64/
http://www.exotica.org.uk/info/scenery/online64/a.html

I accept the removing of personal data if anyone don't like the details published here in CSDB.
2007-06-28 11:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148
dear baracuda, the reason for removing it was that the information in scenery is WRONG in many cases and doesnt add any value whatsoever (except for the useless realnames).

(and when linking to it, atleast link to the most recent version, the one on exotica is outdated for years)
2007-06-28 12:09
BAR.
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324
There were some infos included when a member joined or left a group, Tobias. As the groups were locked i simply added the
infos as comment. If there were mistakes, then this were
old mistakes till ages like every source could have, even CSDB. Thanks to Mason, Jazzcat and others for their comments about me. hehe.. But as groupmembers they had the chance to tell the sources "their truth" or post a comment or something else.

I know the rules and would never publish a private address written in some mags or your phonenumber..

Again they react like kids which get stolen a ball..
Calling me fucker, newbie or others..
I don't care, even about the fakes because i don't feed the trolls.
2007-06-28 12:15
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148
Quote:

There were some infos included when a member joined or left a group, Tobias.


yes, and that "info" is most of the time very wrong.

Quote:

If there were mistakes, then this were
old mistakes till ages like every source could have, even CSDB.


scenery isnt a "source". its a collection of info glenn collected from some diskmags more than 10 years ago, and which werent ever really verified by anyone.

Quote:

But as groupmembers they had the chance to tell the sources "their truth" or post a comment or something else.


what for, scenery is dead and no more maintained. its long supersceeded by other projects such as csdb.

Quote:

I don't care, even about the fakes because i don't feed the trolls.


oh, ofcourse you do :) the selection of groups you pasted your "info" to makes it very obvious.

you are desperatly trying to be somehow important, and you fail every time. poor baracuda :(
2007-06-28 12:18
BAR.
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324
CSDB included many errors and you know that..
Why not merging the stuff together ?

If you read a mag or papermag there is no one telling you
"the truth" then.

Can't understand the problem..

I don't need to be important..
I don't comment everything..
I don't delete others datas..
I don't open threads about useless stuff..
I don't attack others..

I only support information.
You have everytime the chance to correct them or add something..

Take a look at my profile..
There are no credits, no releases, and no events..
Because lame events with KB, Crossbow, others no one like to read, Hehe..






2007-06-28 12:27
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148
Quote:

CSDB included many errors and you know that..
Why not merging the stuff together ?


so we can have even more errors? GREAT IDEA!
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