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2003-08-25 13:08
Eyeth
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Demo of the Year

Hello.

I'm surprised this idea hasn't been floated around. In the past two years, we have had C64.SK and CSDb ramping up with up to date information on demo releases throughout the year.

Why not have a Demo of the Year voting in Jan. 2004 for demos that were released throughout 2003? Thanks to C64.SK, we know whose demo entries won various competitions, which ones were released, etc. Why not compile a list of demos that won their respective demo party/competition, plus maybe an open invitation to a demo or two to round up the list?

CSDb or some other forum could then host the list and have a voting function for the C64 demo scene in choosing the Demo of the Year 2003. This would be a nice honor and one that is finally made possible thanks to reliable sources like CSDb and C64.SK. I'd like to write about the winning demo entry in a printed Commodore publication as well. :)

Any thoughts? Ideas?

Enjoy.
-Todd Elliott
 
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2005-04-12 05:20
Jazzcat

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Eyeth: A bit late in replying, but in regards to that preview. It was a release. Just like anything else thats half decent, we will release it. :)

Real cracking died ages ago, because software developers are too lazy or don't have the knowledge to insert proper protections. Can't blame the crackers on that.
2005-04-12 15:40
MagerValp

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I don't see why Postcards from Stockholm and UltraGUI wouldn't be on the "primary" list. They both ranked better at LCP than two other entries on your list (Borderline and HT's Goa Brudbilder).
2005-04-12 16:17
H.O
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Quote: I don't see why Postcards from Stockholm and UltraGUI wouldn't be on the "primary" list. They both ranked better at LCP than two other entries on your list (Borderline and HT's Goa Brudbilder).


Besides, "Postcards from Stockholm" is a damned cool demo. The highlight from LCP (IMO, and the usual disclaimers)
2005-04-17 16:12
Eyeth
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Hello.

I finally went through all 111 C64 demos! Whew! My second list now has added the following C64 demos (To the ones already listed earlier.):

Kymmene
Nomen Nescio
Plastic Kiss
Postcards from Stockholm
Primary Scar
Real
The Return of Darkness
Timewarp
TUMo8: The Better Party
Ultragui

That makes for a total of 29 C64 Demos worthy of a second review. :) Now, the bad part is that I gotta eliminate 19 of them from consideration.

I hope to have the final top ten list soon for the 2004 C64 Demo of the Year Voting Chart.

Enjoy.
-Todd Elliott
2005-04-17 16:17
Eyeth
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Quote: I also would like to see REAL by RSC+THE DREAMS and Phanta rhei by oxy+plush+jack asser

Hello.

I did view Panta Rhei, but found it confusing and poorly executed. The hidden parts, IMHO, should have been left out, or put in a seperate demo. For example, I used winVICE and the hidden parts popped out first!. I turned on true drive emulation and got the first real part, only to have it lock up. I turned off all other drives except device #8, and finally got it running. But, it only lasted for a while before the hidden parts came up.

Enjoy.
-Todd Elliott
2005-04-17 16:21
Eyeth
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Quote: hammarkullen/afrika was pretty cool too
Hammarkullen


Hello.

I did view Hammarkullen, and found it impressive. However, it is considered as a 'fake demo', and I decided against including it in the voting chart. If someone/group puts in quite an effort, as it happened in Hammarkullen, then they should stand by their work and release it under their label.

Enjoy.
-Todd Elliott
2005-04-17 16:25
TDJ

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Todd, with all due respect: you shouldn't disqualify a demo because it doesn't run correctly under an emulator - watch it on the real thing, or refrain from passing judgement. Panta Rhei is much better than most of the demos you have selected, and the fact that you don't take it up in your longlist makes you look rather weak as a demo reviewer.
2005-04-17 17:56
Graham
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If someone is too stupid to use true drive emulation i can't help it.
2005-04-17 18:30
Dane
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Quote: Todd, with all due respect: you shouldn't disqualify a demo because it doesn't run correctly under an emulator - watch it on the real thing, or refrain from passing judgement. Panta Rhei is much better than most of the demos you have selected, and the fact that you don't take it up in your longlist makes you look rather weak as a demo reviewer.

So this list will not be about demo of the year then, but instead demo group of the year? I don't get it.
2005-04-17 19:09
Eyeth
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Hello.

I just viewed Panta Rhei again. This time, I used 1541 (not 1541-II) and enabled true drive emulation throughout. The C64 demo finally worked and I can see that it's nicely done. It was nice to see a new twist on rotating objects that looks like they have 'plasma' textures.

I will add it to my second review list, making for a nice round figure of 30 demos. :) But, Panta Rhei has a long way to go, as it seems to be like a 'one trick pony' where it only has one cool effect. Again, I will review this demo and compare it with other 29 entries in the list and maybe it'll pass muster.

Enjoy!
-Todd Elliott
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