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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Name that effect
I would know if there is an usual name related to the cheap and absolutely oldschool fake rastersplit effect you can see in a later loading time in Vector Overdose, or in the most famous Geggin's part of Wonderland VI, which is basically a DYCP.
I searched for waving bars, wobbling bars, whatever-ing bars but nothing has come out :/ Saw that on Atari ST, and its author named it with the horrible definition of *gasp* "distorted rasters". |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
why do you need to stick a name on it ? |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: why do you need to stick a name on it ?
Eh, just in order to give a brief and valid answer to the question:"What kind of fx are you going to stick in while trackloading?". At the moment, the answer is a longer words collection and weird hands waving. In the end, nobody understands. :D |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
I dont think it has a name, how about waving rasterbars ? :) or rasterdycp :) |
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Flavioweb
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 463 |
What you think about "Dinamic Ypsilon Raster Position"?
L33t sp34k!
=P |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: I dont think it has a name, how about waving rasterbars ? :) or rasterdycp :)
I'm so scared about the first one who will come to me and say:"ZOMG! AIN'T NO RASTER IN THERE!!!1ONE" :)
Ok let's find a name for it then: fake rasters, waving rasterbars, distorted rasterbars like in No Cooper, wobblebars... |
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aNdy
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 41 |
I'd call it a 'Bechingalw'... |
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Ksubi
Account closed
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 87 |
DYCP Bars :) (since that's what they are) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
iirc back in the days everyone called them "rastersplits" ... having no clue wtf they really are :) |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: iirc back in the days everyone called them "rastersplits" ... having no clue wtf they really are :)
Yes, that's how it's been, you're right. On the other hand, I (we?) need a disambiguating term away from the 'real' rastersplitting. That's the reason why :/ |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Copper plasma without tech-tech (or copper for that matter) :) |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: Copper plasma without tech-tech (or copper for that matter) :)
Copper Plasma! \o/
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Flavioweb
Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 463 |
Since on c64 there is no copper, so we do it using magic, we can call it "copper-field"... |
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The Phantom
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360 |
The one on the right should be called a "Grrr-schnig", no reason in particular.
The left one, "squallahfahoochamism" (squaw-lah-fah-loo-chah-ism)... For sure. |
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Axis/Oxyron
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 91 |
We always called them Fake-Splits back in the days. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
I vote for copper field |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
respect to mayhem for awesome codercolors :) |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: I vote for copper field
+1, me too, being a boutade it's ironically a reasonable matching name :)
I've searched for "fakesplits" as hell 'coz that's the way I used to call'em back in the days, but, having found 0 references, I folded for "Copper Plasma" just because a historical reason exists. Hence, on "another site which is used to tag demos by effects too", I've just added "Copper Plasma AKA Fake Splits" ;)
...ready to swap'em in the case I will find a past reference for it tho... |
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 231 |
Weren't those simply called FLI-Splits back then? Using copper on C64 to me doesn't make too much sense imho.. |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: Weren't those simply called FLI-Splits back then? Using copper on C64 to me doesn't make too much sense imho..
Dano you're right too, but, conceive(!), neither there is FLI!
You know, some effects'names have been assumed from what their resemble, rather than what they truly are.
Groepaz recalled they're known as "rastersplits" since the eras, and of course they are absolutely no rastersplits but they could imitate'em ;) |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
C64 effects name generator needed.
Hope War Deal Lamers can make one. ;) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: Weren't those simply called FLI-Splits back then? Using copper on C64 to me doesn't make too much sense imho..
right, but the effect I guess originates from the amiga. |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
I think i would call this a plasma, even if it is the most simple form of plasma you could imagine. |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
That's demoscene genetics! What do you obtain when you crossbreed a DYCP with a plasma? Right: a fakesplit! :)
What I've noticed is that it's a perfect hybrid between several effects: you can do it looks like a split (Wonderland VI), or like a plasma (Vector Overdose), being actually a DYCP yet.
This is the related page I've put up in "that other site about that other scene".
Oh apropos of, did I thank you all for the advices? ;) |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
I've also used "rasterbender" in this demo: Unbounded, and I don't think I came up with the term myself. I vote for Copperfield too. |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
..but you're not "bending" any rasters really Cruzer, are you? |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 447 |
Is this what we're talking about?
Splitter splitter
Charlatan charlatan
I've always used BF Demo names for the above effects. |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: Is this what we're talking about?
Splitter splitter
Charlatan charlatan
I've always used BF Demo names for the above effects.
Oh nono, that's FLI stuff. What we're talking about is nothing but dycp with graphics, follow the links to see what we meant. |
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sailor
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 90 |
Here is one from Utopia
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
..than one, i would simply call VSP. ..which makes VSP just an even more simple version of a plasma :P, or? |
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Bob
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 71 |
I used to call this effect for SLR
Sliding/Slizering Raster Lines ;)
(Sliding/Slizering) depend on drunkness back then I think we also made one in an old Triad demo.... back in 1988/89.. bit unsure... don't remember really...
I think I wrote that in the scroll text for that part... (SLR) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: ..than one, i would simply call VSP. ..which makes VSP just an even more simple version of a plasma :P, or?
you mean fld, only one huge splitted rasterbar %) |
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Testicle
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Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 131 |
I remember that "real" raster splits were simply called "raster splits", and it was possible to have a handful of splits with the normal timing.
And I think I remember that there was a (Censor Design?) one-file-demo that talked about new illegal opcodes that allowed fast timing for raster splits etc., which were actually the above shown FLI-rastersplits. The talk about opcodes was just a fairy story. I think this was about the time when FLI was invented (the 37-chars wide FLI).
I would vote for raster splits, even if it's technically no real split of backgroundcolor in a raster line. |
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Testicle
Account closed
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 131 |
Found it: Charlatan |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Damn, this thread makes me wanna do some more of this kind of effects, whatever the correct term might be. But I gotta resist and try finishing some routines for a change instead of starting new ones all the time. |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
Yeah, this may actually be a good chance to come up with a better name, that *everyone* will use ever since :D. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
we need a silly abrevation NOW! |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: we need a silly abrevation NOW!
NOW: New Original Waving. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
DYRP - Different Y Raster Position
CCCP - Changing Char Color Position
CRAP - Char Rasters with Alternating Position |
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Bob
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 71 |
hahaha they make perfect sense Cruzer ;) CRAP! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
copper-field |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 447 |
JAFE - Just Another Fake Effect |
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algorithm
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 705 |
Charsplit.. Regardless of the mode, each split is a charwidth |
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Bob
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 71 |
I Vote for
DYRP
or CRAP! |
