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2004-07-21 17:18
Chosy
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Where to start?

hey guys.. i have just set up my commendore 64 to start makeing chiptunes and demos..

but how to do?
do need a speacial programm, or is it all codes?


could some one please give me some hints?

-thx
2004-07-21 22:41
SIDWAVE
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Hi, for music, try SDI, sid does it by grg+gt, just use the search in this site. get v 1.9

also get the sdi packer

and get turbo assembler for coding

and RTFM of the tools, just once to begin with, then you know what they can, and will remember a few things when you try them the first time.
2004-07-22 08:30
Steppe

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SDI 1.9??? ;-)
2004-07-22 10:13
Oswald

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for coding take a look at here:

http://www.fairlight.to/

click docs
2004-07-22 10:52
Chosy
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i wanna make mod and xm tunes.. if its possible on commendore?

!thx for link :)
2004-07-22 11:13
Steppe

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Obviously you're trying to fool us. *PLONK*
2004-07-22 11:24
Chosy
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huh?

what you tlaking about im not tryign to fool any.. i just asking for some help how to make mod and xm tunes

thosechitunes

and later those demos
2004-07-22 11:58
Graham
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how would you store 2 MB of samples in a 64 KB memory? and how would you mix 16 channels of samples with a 1 MHz 8 bit cpu? there is no possibility to play XMs on a c64, and there's also no possibility to play MODs on c64...
2004-07-22 12:09
Oswald

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graham:have you have heard of modplayer ? if my memory serves right it works on a stock machine aswell.
2004-07-22 12:16
SIDWAVE
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Quote: huh?

what you tlaking about im not tryign to fool any.. i just asking for some help how to make mod and xm tunes

thosechitunes

and later those demos


You're in the wrong site man, this is C64 !

To make tunes on PC, a very good prog is Renoise.
www.renoise.com

Use forum on Renoise website to get more help.
Always read the doc :-)
2004-07-22 12:21
CreaMD

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Quote: i wanna make mod and xm tunes.. if its possible on commendore?

!thx for link :)


Making mods on C64 not possible
Making XM tunes on C64 not possible

making SID tunes (3 channels chip music ) on c64 is possible. Making SID tunes on PC (in tracker-like editor) is possible (in an editor called Goat Tracker)

for your info: questions concerning making XM and MODS on C64 are showing that you are quite ignorant as far as Commodore64 is concerned.

roman
2004-07-22 12:31
Macbeth

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: graham:have you have heard of modplayer ? if my memory serves right it works on a stock machine aswell.

I'm pretty sure modplayer needed an REU, but it does work okay for simple MODs. Kinda noisy, but still a cool achievement.
2004-07-22 13:55
Steppe

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It's Comm-o-dore, not Commendore! What am I supposed to think if you can't even spell the name of the machine you're trying to make your very first steps on?
Word of advice: This forum is a great pool of knowledge about probably all questions you're going to ask. Do a little research in old threads first (there's even a search function, surprise).
2004-07-22 15:46
iopop

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Just out of curiosity.. You dont happen to be from Sweden? As no swedes seems to know how to spell Commodore. I've seen Commandor, Commendore and even Komodår. :) No offence, just something Ive noticed browsing too many auction sites.

As for doing "mod" / "xm". I suppose you're interested in doing music for the c64. We used to call it only music. Then some pc-ism got us into calling whatever piece of sound producing code as "sid". Though, sid is in no way comparable with mod apart from it being music. A sid is musicdata and c64 native code while a mod is just music data.

As suggested before download Goat Tracker if you want to do it on pc. If you want the real thing try out Jch , Sdi, John player, Dmc, Gmc, Future composer, Voice tracker or Music Assembler to name a few. you'll probably find most of them here via the search box. Or just look at http://digilander.libero.it/ice00/tsid/hvmec.html

btw. didnt that mod-player require a scpu too? or was it only a native c128?
2004-07-22 17:53
Macbeth

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According to this page, there was first a C128-only version, then later a C64 version. Both require a REU.

http://starbase.globalpc.net/~vanessa/files.html
2004-07-22 18:39
Chosy
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so mod and xm is only possible to be made on a pc?
2004-07-22 19:20
cadaver

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You can make mods on Amiga too.
2004-07-22 19:35
Raf

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on Mac too... and probably on other machines like Atari ST - those machines which have more horsepower.
2004-07-22 19:49
Graham
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Quote: so mod and xm is only possible to be made on a pc?

you need atleast some sort of 16 bit or more machine. PC is nowadays the way to go, but MODs are the native amiga sound format...
2004-07-23 07:10
HCL

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This is the funniest thread in a long time :). If it wasn't for the fact that Dane joined my team some time ago, i would definitely let you do it ;).
2004-07-23 16:58
Chosy
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so do i need any programm so write those codes into for mod or xm tunes?
2004-07-26 08:50
Oswald

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chosy: you are too stupid to read and understand our posts, so I dont even think you could do xms or mods. Leave us alone.
2004-07-26 09:37
iopop

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Oswald: Dont call him stupid! We should all respect him for wanting to do something on our beloved machine? :)
2004-07-26 09:45
Steppe

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My last post on this topic, as I'm such a nice person:
www.modarchive.com/software -> software to make mod/xm/it tunes
http://digilander.libero.it/ice00/tsid/hvmec.html -> software to make sid tunes

Don't ask us how to use them, RTFM instead.
2004-07-26 10:38
Oswald

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iopop: imho he just wants to do chiptunes on a pc, but he is not aware of that, just we.
2004-07-26 11:37
iopop

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Oswald: I'm often refered to the one that doesnt understand irony. Maybe we should team up? :)
2004-07-26 12:27
Oswald

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iopop: uh, I just went through fast on your line, and missed your signs if irony: "? :)" :)
2004-07-27 02:16
Dane

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Wow. Finally someone who wants to push the envelope.
2004-07-27 10:34
Nightlord
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it is possible to make .wav's and .avi's and cinematic effects _on_ c64. all you have to do is to put your c64 on your chair then sit _on_ it while doing those things. Okay bad joke :). not as funny as the thread itself
2004-07-27 12:25
Chotaire

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fucking blah!
2004-07-27 23:09
TDJ

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Quote: Wow. Finally someone who wants to push the envelope.

You should lick it, not push it.
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