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kgb
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Zakk of Liquid , a code thief
Zakk has never made a Demo. He was steling codes from other coders.
When you look at his demos, then think, everything you see, beside the GFX, Is taken from other demos. |
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Steppe
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Interesting... :-)
Isn't it about time to put down the old gripes? This is 2005, in case you didn't notice. People (well, most of us) have grown up now... ;-) |
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Wanderer
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Quote: Interesting... :-)
Isn't it about time to put down the old gripes? This is 2005, in case you didn't notice. People (well, most of us) have grown up now... ;-)
I think we have all looked at code and taken snippets.
I don't think that the ESCOS, FLI, FLD and Tech-Tech routines that seemed to come out at the same time were a result of programmers across the world simultaneously waking up one morning and suddenly knowing how to do it. To understand some routines, I think it was, at times, necessary to inspect other people's code.
Granted that doesn't mean taking the entire portion of code to pass it off as your own. Consider my Relentless demo (last part) and this:
http://www.vulturesnest.net/Graphics/DamageInc/DamageInc4.png
It was a code rip and a graphics rip straight from my demo.
But ahh yea... those feuds from the late 80's and early 90's should be over by now, one would think ?? :) |
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Slartibartfast
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You're the expert on code ripping, Wanderer. |
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Wanderer
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"Worst bad trip I've had on shrooms (my only real bad trip really) all of my muscles kept cramping, and due to this I started hallucinating that they were turning blue and swelling up. I gained control eventually, and had the speediest shroom trip I've ever had"
Damian Caynes, drug addict
Usenet message <freako.750698462@suburbia>
"If you feel some respect for the drug and the profound effects it can have on your psyche, I believe meaningful experiences can come of it."
Damian Caynes on meaningful experiences from drug abuse
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Enough said :)
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Slartibartfast
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Unable to respond to your own shady coding past eh?
Once again, freaky net stalking. Obesssed? Insane? Seems like it, get some help wierdo. |
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Wanderer
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... and in conclusion
"the most bizarre thing that can happen tho, is just doin wotever yer doin waitin fer the trip, and then... one by one... yer friends start trippen... and you look at them, seeing them tripping, and knowing that soon you'll be
there too... and you can't go back... past the point of no return... i love it, like reaching the peak of a rollercoaster, hearing the people at the front scream as they go over, and then being pulled over the edge
yerself... fun! "
Drug abusing, pot smoking, hallucinating, Slarti...
Usenet post <freako.756224908@suburbia>
LMAO
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A Life in Hell
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Quote: I think we have all looked at code and taken snippets.
I don't think that the ESCOS, FLI, FLD and Tech-Tech routines that seemed to come out at the same time were a result of programmers across the world simultaneously waking up one morning and suddenly knowing how to do it. To understand some routines, I think it was, at times, necessary to inspect other people's code.
Granted that doesn't mean taking the entire portion of code to pass it off as your own. Consider my Relentless demo (last part) and this:
http://www.vulturesnest.net/Graphics/DamageInc/DamageInc4.png
It was a code rip and a graphics rip straight from my demo.
But ahh yea... those feuds from the late 80's and early 90's should be over by now, one would think ?? :)
It's a little known fact that the text displayer in Game Over(view) was in fact ripped from the vandalism news outfit, and the logo displayer was ripped from some booze design demo (I forget which now).
Code ripping is fun an profitable! |
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Wanderer
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Quote: It's a little known fact that the text displayer in Game Over(view) was in fact ripped from the vandalism news outfit, and the logo displayer was ripped from some booze design demo (I forget which now).
Code ripping is fun an profitable!
>Code ripping is fun an profitable!
Absolutely. I wrote a game for the C64, released it openly and unprotected. Over a decade later I found out that someone submitted it to a European magazine and that they made money from it. :) |
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Wanderer
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202.124.42.150 (Australia)
202-124-32-150.adsl.gil.com.au
AS7492 Global Info-Links
Hrm... I wonder who that could be, stalking my webpage lol
*cough*Slarti*cough*
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A Life in Hell
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Quote: 202.124.42.150 (Australia)
202-124-32-150.adsl.gil.com.au
AS7492 Global Info-Links
Hrm... I wonder who that could be, stalking my webpage lol
*cough*Slarti*cough*
actually, that's my IP, but thanks for playing |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
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wanderer: looking at code and ripping code is not the same category. |
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Wanderer
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Quote: actually, that's my IP, but thanks for playing
No matter, the entire scope is blocked. Within 30 seconds you went straight for the personal area - which is discomforting. :)
Oswald: yes of course... there's a huge difference but to some degree we have all done it. One person came up with the bad-line FLD routine, someone else took a look at it, and used it. It's a small rip but a rip nonetheless.
I don't think there's anybody out there who designed 100% their own routines. |
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A Life in Hell
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Quote: No matter, the entire scope is blocked. Within 30 seconds you went straight for the personal area - which is discomforting. :)
Oswald: yes of course... there's a huge difference but to some degree we have all done it. One person came up with the bad-line FLD routine, someone else took a look at it, and used it. It's a small rip but a rip nonetheless.
I don't think there's anybody out there who designed 100% their own routines.
So let me get this straight, just to ensure that I am not at all confused here: You have a personal web page, which you willingly put online publically - and link to other sections of it _today_ - but yet you get disturbed when people actually look at it. In the same thread, you find it perfectly natural to dig up old, old usenet posts from 10+ years ago and post them as your arguments (which are you arguments, btw? because if the argument is that slartibartfast has ingested drugs, I have some news about the c64 scene that you might find a little discomforting :).
My question to you, is who exactly is your dealer - because he is dealing some quality crack, and I seriously want in on some of that good shit. |
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A Life in Hell
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clarification: the word 'today' was used above in the general sense of 'the modern era',, not in the literal sense of "december 16, 2005" |
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Oswald
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Wanderer:
looking at others code, learning from others, this is natural, only the childish "elite" kid scene back then thought that they have a patent on every opcode, and learning from someone else is ripping.
just try to imagine what would the c64 scene be today, if it would be impossible to share (peek, ripp, chat) coding info.
How did science evolve during the past yearhundreds ? by looking (ripping?) at the other scientists achievements, and finding out a bit more by using the knowledge other 100 scientists developed. |
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Wanderer
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Quote: So let me get this straight, just to ensure that I am not at all confused here: You have a personal web page, which you willingly put online publically - and link to other sections of it _today_ - but yet you get disturbed when people actually look at it. In the same thread, you find it perfectly natural to dig up old, old usenet posts from 10+ years ago and post them as your arguments (which are you arguments, btw? because if the argument is that slartibartfast has ingested drugs, I have some news about the c64 scene that you might find a little discomforting :).
My question to you, is who exactly is your dealer - because he is dealing some quality crack, and I seriously want in on some of that good shit.
Okay allow me to unconfuse you. :)
Yes I have a personal page. Yes I link to it.
I don't get disturbed normally when people visit it, but I did get concerned when someone from Australia went straight to the personal area within 30 seconds of visiting it. Was it justified? Yupper because less than 4 hours later someone is whining about me. *grin*
I actually have *no* arguments. The source of the comment spoke for itself :)
I merely guided people to draw their own conclusions.
I've no doubt sone of the c64 scene partakes in smoking pot, I think we all have tried it. But I think this is when you need serious help. http://tinyurl.com/98w39
Now that is one messed up dude.
For all I know he's hallucinating code ripping itself from the screen as he reads this.
Regardless of all this crap I'd rather be known as a so-called "ripper" than to be faced with the indignity of living with these words: "well, my personal experience with nitrous with a cone or ten is intense depersonalization... like i've just stepped out of reality to view it through a red veil, NOTHING makes any sense and i simply cant comprehend anything going on around me... i've tried talking into the trip, but friends told me that i simply started garbling complete gibberish... my second most intense trip had me thinking towards the end that i would never come out of it, tho it was of course coming down from it that enabled me to compose the thought, and so i looked at a friend sitting next to me and yelled "help
me!"... then i was down... the most intense one occured half an hour later, it was a complete flashback to the first one, and so i believed that the entire half hour was part of the trip! and ended it with "help me!"
Not to worry Damian, you can follow up to this as I've decided not to read this thread any further or your silly one-liners. I'm too old for your temper tantrums. You seem to have serious psychological problems which you try to escape from through drugs. I know you feel a need to get back at me, but really your own words did that for you.
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"i looked at a friend sitting next to me and yelled "help
me!" - Damian Caynes while on drugs
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ZZAP69
Registered: Feb 2002
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KGB: Intresting, i didnt know that. Though i know Zakk pretty well. Isnt it about time you upload some of your stunning productions here? ;>
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macx
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 255 |
and we all know ambush-mania is THE demo anyhow
now, go call them telnetboards to get your dose of C/G. tune in and drop out boylords. |
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zakk
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Quote: and we all know ambush-mania is THE demo anyhow
now, go call them telnetboards to get your dose of C/G. tune in and drop out boylords.
Word :D |
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macx
Registered: Mar 2002
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shite my lord. pubes as a moppe.
is it you Zakk? for real? ph0ne, jetzt! |
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zakk
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yes its me (Får jag låna din fitta) :P
wsup ? |
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ZZAP69
Registered: Feb 2002
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Eyy... Har du kuk, faan? :D
Barf
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