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2004-02-13 08:51
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568
3D projection on the C=64 (or...how do I divide?)

Hi!

After 12 years I picked up coding again on the C=64.
What I want to make is a simple 3D starfield.
I know something about 3D programming, so that's no issue.

The only thing I stumbled on is how to implement 3D projection (X1=X/Z) and especially the dividing part of it.
How can I implement this on the C=64?

Any hints, tips?

Thanx!

R.
(Asm on the PC is so much easier ;-)
 
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2006-07-14 20:38
Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
1 off is ok, remember that you have an error in that range anyway due to rounding.

Oh and btw, I use X*(1/Y) too when I need a fast div.
2006-07-15 09:30
John West
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Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 4
... and if you don't mind it being up to two out, you don't need to calculate the low byte of the multiply. That saves a few cycles.
2006-07-17 07:05
AmiDog

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 97
Well, you do need an 9-bit reciprocal to get a 100% accurate result, but as the msb of the reciprocal is always one, you don't need to store it anywhere, and a multiply by 256 is just an add. Some C-code:

/* 9-bit reciprocal table, but msb is always one and not stored */
unsigned char r0[128];

void build_table(void)
{
  unsigned long i, d, r;
  for (i=0; i<128; i++) {
    d = i | 0x80;              /* 1 < d < 2 */
    r = 0x80000000 / (d << 8); /* 1 / d -> 1/2 < r < 1 */
    r += 0x80;                 /* round the reciprocal */
    r <<= 1;                   /* remove constant 1-bit */
    r0[i] = (unsigned char)(r >> 8);
  }
}

unsigned char div8(unsigned char a, unsigned char b)
{
  int log = 7;

  /* division by one need to be handled separately */
  if (b == 1) {
    return a;
  }

  /* normalize b so that 1 <= b < 2 */
  while (!(b & 0x80)) {
    b <<= 1;
    log--;
  }

  /* if b is a power of two */
  if (b == 0x80) {
    return a >> log;
  }

  /* msb is always one, so don't use it for indexing (save some memory) */
  unsigned char r = r0[b & 0x7f];

  /* now multiply */
  unsigned short ar = (unsigned short)a * (unsigned short)r;
  ar >>= 8;
  ar += (unsigned short)a; /* ar is now an 9-bit value */
  ar >>= (log + 1);

  return (unsigned char)ar;
}

This has been tested and is 100% accurate. I don't know how fast/slow it will be when translated to 6502 code. Maybe adding a table or two for the normalizing step could help.
2006-07-17 07:12
AmiDog

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 97
Just noticed that a divide by zero will cause an endless loop, so better replace:

  if (b == 1) {
    return a;
  }


with

  if (b <= 1) {
    return a;
  }


to avoid the endless loop. The result of a divide by zero is usually considered undefined anyway, so it doesn't really matter what we return...
2006-07-17 10:27
AmiDog

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 97
I just couldn't control myself, here's some 6502 code:

_divu_8
	lda div_b
	cmp #2
	bcs + ; >= 2

	lda div_a
	rts

+	ldx #8

-	dex
	asl
	bcc -

	bne +

	lda div_a
-	lsr
	dex
	bne -
	rts

+	tay
	lda r0_table,y
	ldy div_a

	sta zp8_1
	sta zp8_2
    	eor #$ff
	sta zp8_3
	sta zp8_4

    	sec
	lda (zp8_1),y
	sbc (zp8_3),y
	lda (zp8_2),y
	sbc (zp8_4),y

	clc
	adc div_a

	ror
-	lsr
	dex
	bne -
	rts

div_a
	.byte $0
div_b
	.byte $0
r0_table
	.byte $01,$00,$fd,$00,$f9,$00,$f5,$00,$f1,$00,$ed,$00,$ea,$00,$e6,$00
	.byte $e2,$00,$df,$00,$db,$00,$d8,$00,$d5,$00,$d1,$00,$ce,$00,$cb,$00
	.byte $c8,$00,$c4,$00,$c1,$00,$be,$00,$bb,$00,$b8,$00,$b5,$00,$b3,$00
	.byte $b0,$00,$ad,$00,$aa,$00,$a7,$00,$a5,$00,$a2,$00,$9f,$00,$9d,$00
	.byte $9a,$00,$98,$00,$95,$00,$93,$00,$90,$00,$8e,$00,$8b,$00,$89,$00
	.byte $87,$00,$84,$00,$82,$00,$80,$00,$7e,$00,$7b,$00,$79,$00,$77,$00
	.byte $75,$00,$73,$00,$71,$00,$6f,$00,$6d,$00,$6b,$00,$69,$00,$67,$00
	.byte $65,$00,$63,$00,$61,$00,$5f,$00,$5d,$00,$5b,$00,$59,$00,$58,$00
	.byte $56,$00,$54,$00,$52,$00,$51,$00,$4f,$00,$4d,$00,$4b,$00,$4a,$00
	.byte $48,$00,$47,$00,$45,$00,$43,$00,$42,$00,$40,$00,$3f,$00,$3d,$00
	.byte $3c,$00,$3a,$00,$39,$00,$37,$00,$36,$00,$34,$00,$33,$00,$31,$00
	.byte $30,$00,$2f,$00,$2d,$00,$2c,$00,$2a,$00,$29,$00,$28,$00,$26,$00
	.byte $25,$00,$24,$00,$22,$00,$21,$00,$20,$00,$1f,$00,$1d,$00,$1c,$00
	.byte $1b,$00,$1a,$00,$19,$00,$17,$00,$16,$00,$15,$00,$14,$00,$13,$00
	.byte $12,$00,$10,$00,$0f,$00,$0e,$00,$0d,$00,$0c,$00,$0b,$00,$0a,$00
	.byte $09,$00,$08,$00,$07,$00,$06,$00,$05,$00,$04,$00,$03,$00,$02,$00

This will divide two 8-bit numbers in some 90-150 cycles. The code can easily be extended to handle larger dividends.
2006-07-17 12:50
AmiDog

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 97
Let me bore you with an optimized version:

	; divide acc by y, result in acc
_divu_8
	ldx t0_table,y
	stx b1+1
	ldx t1_table,y
	beq +

	ldy r0_table,x

	sta zp8_1
	sta zp8_2
    	eor #$ff
	sta zp8_3
	sta zp8_4

    	sec
	lda (zp8_1),y
	sbc (zp8_3),y
	lda (zp8_2),y
	sbc (zp8_4),y

	clc
	adc zp8_1
	ror

+	sec
b1	bcs b1
	lsr
	lsr
	lsr
	lsr
	lsr
	lsr
	lsr

	rts

	.align $100
r0_table
	.byte $01,$00,$fd,$00,$f9,$00,$f5,$00,$f1,$00,$ed,$00,$ea,$00,$e6,$00
	.byte $e2,$00,$df,$00,$db,$00,$d8,$00,$d5,$00,$d1,$00,$ce,$00,$cb,$00
	.byte $c8,$00,$c4,$00,$c1,$00,$be,$00,$bb,$00,$b8,$00,$b5,$00,$b3,$00
	.byte $b0,$00,$ad,$00,$aa,$00,$a7,$00,$a5,$00,$a2,$00,$9f,$00,$9d,$00
	.byte $9a,$00,$98,$00,$95,$00,$93,$00,$90,$00,$8e,$00,$8b,$00,$89,$00
	.byte $87,$00,$84,$00,$82,$00,$80,$00,$7e,$00,$7b,$00,$79,$00,$77,$00
	.byte $75,$00,$73,$00,$71,$00,$6f,$00,$6d,$00,$6b,$00,$69,$00,$67,$00
	.byte $65,$00,$63,$00,$61,$00,$5f,$00,$5d,$00,$5b,$00,$59,$00,$58,$00
	.byte $56,$00,$54,$00,$52,$00,$51,$00,$4f,$00,$4d,$00,$4b,$00,$4a,$00
	.byte $48,$00,$47,$00,$45,$00,$43,$00,$42,$00,$40,$00,$3f,$00,$3d,$00
	.byte $3c,$00,$3a,$00,$39,$00,$37,$00,$36,$00,$34,$00,$33,$00,$31,$00
	.byte $30,$00,$2f,$00,$2d,$00,$2c,$00,$2a,$00,$29,$00,$28,$00,$26,$00
	.byte $25,$00,$24,$00,$22,$00,$21,$00,$20,$00,$1f,$00,$1d,$00,$1c,$00
	.byte $1b,$00,$1a,$00,$19,$00,$17,$00,$16,$00,$15,$00,$14,$00,$13,$00
	.byte $12,$00,$10,$00,$0f,$00,$0e,$00,$0d,$00,$0c,$00,$0b,$00,$0a,$00
	.byte $09,$00,$08,$00,$07,$00,$06,$00,$05,$00,$04,$00,$03,$00,$02,$00
t0_table
	.fill $100,0
t1_table
	.fill $100,0

_divu_8_setup
	ldy #1
next
	tya
	ldx #$ff
-	inx
	asl
	bcc -
	sta t1_table,y
	txa
	sta t0_table,y
	iny
	bne next
	rts

This will divide two 8-bit numbers in 42-106 cycles (including the jsr used to call this).

I'll stop now, I promise ;)
2006-07-17 14:29
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Yes, and now please re-read some former posts by other people for somewhat better approaches :)
2006-07-18 05:36
AmiDog

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 97
Well, it depends on how you define "better". If you need accuracy, this method will give you that (all bits are correct) in 40-100 cycles (I've made a few more optimizations). Compare this with the unrolled binary division in a post above which will use 244-274 cycles...

Also, you could easily extend this code to perform a 16bit/8bit division, or even 32bit/8bit division by just extending the multiplication and the bitshifting at the end, the reciprocal and shiftcount stays the same. Somehow I doubt you'll be able to do that using log-tables :)
2006-07-18 09:21
Style

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498
pwned krill

:)
2006-07-18 13:54
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Ok, i'm sorry, after a closer investigation, the code is much more elegant and better than i suspected after a quick peek. :) Well done.
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