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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Release id #94464 : Headache
I don't have anything personal against that picture (which is quite good) nor the author (whom I respect), BUT I didn't like the fact that it participated in the gfx compo. Shouldn't animated (yes, I know - colorcycled ;D) entries be excluded and moved to demo compo instead?... |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
To defend myself, I have asked both Scout and CBA it if would be fine to have the blinking. I think to have it in demos would be a bit silly, it is a static picture where some colours are swapped. Hardly a demo. |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
I see you undestand my point of view :) and of course the aim is not to create any drama or anything, just it would be good to either have clear rules for X and stick to them (option 1) or be more flexible also in other aspects (option 2).
Blinking, animated, upscrolling graphics allowed at X2012?
2SID, sample, 4K compos at X2012?
Let's progress the format :) |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
When I approved this picture to the compo I knew this would happen :)
In my (yes, MY! :) opinion the flashing adds extra artistic value to the picture.
That's why I approved it.
We have compo rules but you also have to be flexible as an organizer because art should not be bound to rules. |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
So, would you approve twoscreener, too? |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quoting CreshSo, would you approve twoscreener, too?
Yep. Like Elephant's Nipples |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
Oh, I missed that one.
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
When is it an animation and when is it color blending and when is it some weird 12SCREENXFLIINTERLACE-mode? :)
Get over it! :P |
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Yazoo
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227 |
Quote: When I approved this picture to the compo I knew this would happen :)
In my (yes, MY! :) opinion the flashing adds extra artistic value to the picture.
That's why I approved it.
We have compo rules but you also have to be flexible as an organizer because art should not be bound to rules.
ok. but it should be clear to all artists that stuff like bordergfx, flashing and other stuff is allowed. because when some try to follow the rules, and some others dont - the ones following the rules may have a disadvantage :-)
so... i am more or less fine with flashing, scrolling and whatever. but the website should say so next time me thinks.
on the other hand i hope this wont lead to the fact that an artist needs a coder for graphics-entries in the future ... this wouldnt be good.
just my 2 cents
ps. no drama from my side... theres enough drama going on @ csdb already :-) i just think that some rules make sense |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
@yazoo: couldn't agree more ;)
@scout: so for next time, can we expect more compos for other types of entries? (my hinting becomes too blunt, I know ;D) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
interlace:
lda $d016
eor #$01
sta $d016
animation:
inc $d021
GET FUCKING OVER IT!
=) |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
let me try some definition:
new frames without new content: no animation (headache, interlace, trilace...).
new frames with new content: animation.
Maybe that settles it? ;-) |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quoting wackee
@scout: so for next time, can we expect more compos for other types of entries? (my hinting becomes too blunt, I know ;D)
As long as I'm the democompoführer: no.
Furthermore, what JackAsser & Groepaz said :P |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Ah, lovely subject... let's start nit picking!
Quote:new frames without new content: no animation (headache, interlace, trilace...).
What is new content?
Two different frames of interlace are not identical (wouldn't make sense), yet it's not animation ;-)
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
Animation: The illusion of movement achieved by showing consecutive images which together form a continuous sequence.
Just blinking of flashing or flickering alone is NOT animation. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
it can be (think palette rotation) =) |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
Palette rotation emulates animation with single frame progression, so that's kinda different than just a bunch of blinking chars. |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
@Scout: Thank you for your in-depth reasoning and explanation.
@Groepaz, Jackasser: You are always welcome to miss my point entirely. Who gives a rat's ass about the difference between animation, colorchanging, interlace or whatsofuckingever? The point was about allowing non-static graphics in a (traditionally) static category. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Why not just let anything compete, and let the voters decide whether it's uberlame with animation, colorcycling or scrolling in a gfx compo?
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