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2006-10-24 15:44
cbmeeks

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Metroid??

I am working on Metroid for the C64 ( http://www.codershangout.com/blogs/metroid ) and would LOVE if someone knows where I might find the music converted to SID. Or, if someone more talented than me (lots) would like to convert it?

The perfect solution would be to try and map the NES original to 2 channels so that I have the 3rd for sfx.

I have the Metroid MIDI's if that would help. I guess worse case I'll have to load the MIDI into some music software and manually try to convert each note with Goattracker or something. I'm not really a music guy. hehehe

Thanks!

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2006-10-24 16:16
Bamu®
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Do you want a 1:1 conversation of the songs?

edit: I've checked the NSF file: 12 songs needs to be converted. :)
2006-10-24 16:22
Hate Bush

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conversation of songs, sounds interesting, doesn't it
2006-10-24 16:26
Bamu®
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Quote: Do you want a 1:1 conversation of the songs?

edit: I've checked the NSF file: 12 songs needs to be converted. :)


If the pretensions aren't too high, a nice conversion is easily feasible.
2006-10-24 16:29
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
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metroid on c64 would definitely be something. i'd even dust off my tv-set for that one.
2006-10-24 17:06
cbmeeks

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A 1:1 conversion would rock. But I think the sound effects (jumping,shooting,etc) really add to the game. Could the conversion be done in 2 channels?

C64 NEEDS Metroid...which means it needs the music. :-)


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2006-10-24 17:50
Tim
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http://www.midishrine.com/index.php?id=55

actually contains 25 midi's
2006-10-24 18:02
cbmeeks

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Thanks...are NSF files easier to convert??



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2006-10-24 19:56
Radiant

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cbmeeks: I think you could get some pretty awesome music support for such a project, once it's become somewhat playable. There are some extraordinary talented musicians around here, whom I'd bet would be willing to share their 2 channel versions of the original tunes - maxed out to meet the full capabilities of the SID - once there's more evidence that this port's alive and healthy. :-) Go for it! I'd sure love to see this conversion get finished.
2006-10-24 20:01
cbmeeks

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Quote: cbmeeks: I think you could get some pretty awesome music support for such a project, once it's become somewhat playable. There are some extraordinary talented musicians around here, whom I'd bet would be willing to share their 2 channel versions of the original tunes - maxed out to meet the full capabilities of the SID - once there's more evidence that this port's alive and healthy. :-) Go for it! I'd sure love to see this conversion get finished.

That makes sense and is understandable. :-)

So full speed ahead!!



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2006-10-24 21:17
Dane
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Mmm.Metroid. Definitely one of my all-time favourites.
2006-10-24 23:40
cbmeeks

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Mine too....that's why it has to be done.

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2006-10-25 07:51
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Quote: Thanks...are NSF files easier to convert??



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They are quite easy to convert from nsf to midi. (Guess, there is some tool on my harddrive) :)
Unfortunately, we would have to convert all single *.midi files to one c64 module. (everything by hand)... :-I
2006-10-25 09:14
cbmeeks

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I was afraid of that. :-(

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2006-10-25 10:08
Frantic

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...but I am sure Nata will do that for you. He's very much into 1:1 conversions. ;)
2006-10-25 11:03
cbmeeks

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nata would be my new best friend if he took on the challenge. :-D



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2006-10-25 11:05
Scout

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Quote: nata would be my new best friend if he took on the challenge. :-D



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*bites his tongue off...*

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2006-10-25 11:18
cbmeeks

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er...need a bandage? lol


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2006-10-25 12:24
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Quote: *bites his tongue off...*

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@scout: HAHAHAHAHA! :D

@cbmeeks: Just do some progress in the game and then I'm sure people will be delighted to make some music for you. Currently as far as I can see you only have a semi complete scroller, which you even claim is a big step in a game like Metroid. May I remind you of collision detection, "physics", sprite multiplexing for multiple enemies etc. etc. etc.

I'm not saying this to disengourage you, I'm just stating what is fact and what most people probably feel. So, get some work done and you'll most probably get some heavy community feedback.

Good luck!
2006-10-25 12:30
cbmeeks

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Quote: @scout: HAHAHAHAHA! :D

@cbmeeks: Just do some progress in the game and then I'm sure people will be delighted to make some music for you. Currently as far as I can see you only have a semi complete scroller, which you even claim is a big step in a game like Metroid. May I remind you of collision detection, "physics", sprite multiplexing for multiple enemies etc. etc. etc.

I'm not saying this to disengourage you, I'm just stating what is fact and what most people probably feel. So, get some work done and you'll most probably get some heavy community feedback.

Good luck!


No, I know that. Just didn't see the point in the reply is all. :)

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2006-10-25 13:41
Twoflower

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Hmm, wasn't Metroid included in the Nessidplay pack? Some of the tunes in that one actually sounded kind of decent. Not anything you should use in a game, but a pretty nice example of how Nes-tunes actually could sound on the SID,
2006-10-25 13:45
Bamu®
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Quote: Hmm, wasn't Metroid included in the Nessidplay pack? Some of the tunes in that one actually sounded kind of decent. Not anything you should use in a game, but a pretty nice example of how Nes-tunes actually could sound on the SID,

imho it would sound good, if nessidplay supports a 2nd sid.
2006-10-25 13:49
cbmeeks

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What is this nessidplay you speak of? :-)

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2006-10-25 14:03
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Quote: What is this nessidplay you speak of? :-)

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Guess, he means this:

http://disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/nessidplay.html
2006-10-25 14:28
Twoflower

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Yep, exactly, Nessidplay, made by Chris Covell made a few years ago.

While i'm at it - may I heavily encourage you to take a look at Lasse Öörnis tools, examples and solutions since he is using the 4x4 tile format you intend to use, and similar mechanics when it comes to the engine.

I suppose you allready know how all the technical bits work in the original game (level map structure and so on) since you allready made a version on the PC. The Datacrystal WIKI covers short of everything concerning the structure if you'll need some kind of reference -> http://datacrystal.org/wiki/Metroid
2006-10-25 16:36
macx

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I _adore_ Metroid on NES.

Make sure to sell some boxed originals when you're done (in the distant future), at least I would want that :-)
2006-10-25 17:21
cbmeeks

Registered: Oct 2005
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@nata: Thanks. I will check that out tonight. Corporate firewall blocks anything NES/game related.

@Twoflower: Oh yeah. Reading EFNY and MW3 source all the time. It's been a long time since I did 6502 coding but I've done a lot of PIC/SX ASM programming so things are starting to come back to me.

@macx: I can't sell anything related to Metroid. Don't want Nintendo after me AGAIN. But, what I will do is change all the graphics and sound when things are done and box/sell that. I want to do a professional cart/manual like the guys at Atariage.

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