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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Locked Entries - are they really needed?
Probably another hot topic this one, but.. is there a valid good reason for having entries being locked by those who added them?
In particular, is there a reason to keep the lock icon for more than a year or so?
I frequently come across CSDb entries where I’d like to update the GFX type, fix the screenshot, add credits, etc etc… but can’t. I can fix the graphic entries on C64GFX … but I’d rather fix them here at the same time.
I wonder what the reasons are for some to put the lock? Is it to stop abuse by others? If so, what abuse? Or is it to try to maintain something that’s incorrect somehow? (Eg. An unrealistic screenshot)
Genuinely interested. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1098 |
It shouldn't be needed, but I often lock my own releases to prevent others from modifying my release titles to adhere to some fugly naming convention someone made up.
I got tired of changing the titles back to its original form multiple times, so now I just lock my own entries. |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 849 |
20 years ago there was a particular lamer idiot who mass-deleted all sorts of releases/sceners/groups in "protest" over sceners he hated back in the 90s. ... I think that's why this "locked" feature was introduced, to prevent something like that happening again.
I only use it to lock my own releases from myself, but I will admit I did use to lock any release because of what happened above... then someone told me off and I stopped.
... these days it probably isn't needed because everyone loves everyone apparently. :) |
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Jetboy
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 335 |
I would lock releases so no one changes anything. But mods can still change them. So maybe you should become mod? |
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wil
Registered: Jan 2019
Posts: 62 |
I’ve never used that feature myself, though I can see how it might be useful in specific situations. Overall, I’m fine with the current setup, where locking is an option but remains largely unused by most people. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
The feature should have been removed long ago. It was added when no logging existed and stuff couldn't be reverted/fixed when someone goes berzerk (Hy Tyree!). It's pointless these days, and only gets in the way.
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It shouldn't be needed, but I often lock my own releases to prevent others from modifying my release titles to adhere to some fugly naming convention someone made up.
I got tired of changing the titles back to its original form multiple times, so now I just lock my own entries.
Plot twist: one of the most active people in this area... is a mod. |
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Frostbyte
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 183 |
Entry locking is indeed bit of an oddball feature in a collaborative database. Useful for vandalism prevention, of course, but maybe a mandatory "why am I locking this entry" message should be required when locking. At least then the mods would have some basis for either granting or removing the lock.
(How does one even lock an entry btw? Is it the "Set me as maintainer" button when editing release info?) |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 368 |
"Set me as maintainer"
Yes |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
It's shouldn't be available for normal users, only trusted/mod/admins should be able to block normal users from modifying an entry. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4731 |
Quote: It's shouldn't be available for normal users, only trusted/mod/admins should be able to block normal users from modifying an entry.
This |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 368 |
I am a nasty entry locker (my own entries only)...
But iAN is right! |
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wil
Registered: Jan 2019
Posts: 62 |
Quote: Entry locking is indeed bit of an oddball feature in a collaborative database. Useful for vandalism prevention, of course, but maybe a mandatory "why am I locking this entry" message should be required when locking. At least then the mods would have some basis for either granting or removing the lock.
(How does one even lock an entry btw? Is it the "Set me as maintainer" button when editing release info?)
I would second this idea; I think it is a good compromise between the status quo and removing the feature. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686 |
I still lock my entries, for the same reason Burglar does. I also hate people changing my screenshots and using ugly frodo colors and various other things. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Quote: I still lock my entries, for the same reason Burglar does. I also hate people changing my screenshots and using ugly frodo colors and various other things.
Is there a reason why they do it? Eg. Missing borders, image having more than 16 colours (and not being a magical “4000 colours are possible!” interlace pic) etc?
If so, just follow the screenshot rules and update again?
If not, report the user doing it - there’s a pop up before changing screenshots asking whether you’re “making this better” with the new screen. |
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wil
Registered: Jan 2019
Posts: 62 |
Quote: Is there a reason why they do it? Eg. Missing borders, image having more than 16 colours (and not being a magical “4000 colours are possible!” interlace pic) etc?
If so, just follow the screenshot rules and update again?
If not, report the user doing it - there’s a pop up before changing screenshots asking whether you’re “making this better” with the new screen.
Regarding the reporting option: Is there a way to see who has made changes to my entry (if you are not a mod)?
Additionally, is it possible to enable monitoring on one's entries? Without such a feature, it becomes nigh impossible to track which entries have been changed. |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 368 |
AFAIK ... The change log of entries was once enabled to see for everyone... but at least not anymore.
(Maybe i am wrong) |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2241 |
Quoting 'MySelf'... in 99.99% of cases locking entries doesn't make ANY sense. In the other 0.01% make sure you gave ALL the info, especially credits before locking the entry...
See here Orbix Title
And in addition, yes, as iAN said, these 0.01% might also be reserved to mods/trusted to end edit wars (e.g. when someone wants to delete his own stuff to erase it from history or when someone keeps acting stupid <- though this might also be solved by banning) |
