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2009-02-22 17:45
Wile Coyote
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Buying Commodore hardware

Buying an old shape Commodore 64 in good fully working condition is so difficult. Ebay appears to ideal place, although time and time again, I’m outbid by people who are obviously deperate for a Commodore 64. It makes me wonder who these people could possibly be.

My Commodore 64 boots up, but has issues. Random dots appears on the screen, as and when. Editors are out of the question, and running demos is hit n'miss.
2009-02-22 18:04
Mace

Registered: May 2002
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It greatly depends on the country where you're in, but in The Netherlands it's not that hard to get a working C64.
A full set with drive and some additional stuff will change owners for around 20 to 40 euro.

[edit]
Check PM ;-)
2009-02-22 18:15
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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yeah, you should ask around, for example people who come to the same party as you do.

and on ebay, look for auctions with typos in them, "commandore 64" etc =)
2009-02-22 20:48
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
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Quote: Buying an old shape Commodore 64 in good fully working condition is so difficult. Ebay appears to ideal place, although time and time again, I’m outbid by people who are obviously deperate for a Commodore 64. It makes me wonder who these people could possibly be.

My Commodore 64 boots up, but has issues. Random dots appears on the screen, as and when. Editors are out of the question, and running demos is hit n'miss.


sounds like an old tired VIC.. you could try heat-sinking it if a replacement is too difficult for you to track down.
2009-02-23 08:08
Mace

Registered: May 2002
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I might have a spare VIC for you, if you want to try.
Let me know what version you'd like to have.
It won't cost you more than a stamp :-)
2009-02-23 12:16
null
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Quote: sounds like an old tired VIC.. you could try heat-sinking it if a replacement is too difficult for you to track down.


or a fan! ;_)


(hey, it helps cool *my* vic..)

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2009-02-23 13:22
raven
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I've found flea-markets to be the best source for 8-bitters, here atleast.

Although, the well is getting dry in recent years, very dry :(
2009-02-23 13:25
chatGPZ

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didnt find anything on fleamarkets for quite some time now :(
2009-02-23 13:43
Mace

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Same here: a lot of 'traders' emerged from the retro hype of recent years, resulting in high prices and low availability.

And since we're at it, I've got some hardware to sell.
For a while I wanted to build a nice collection, but by now I've come to the conclusion that I only want stuff I'm really going to use.

PM me if you'd like to buy the following:
- 1570 (working, but needs lubrication)
- 128D (untested, but I will test before you buy)
- trackball (fine condition)
- Robtek Gamekiller cartridge (working, in box, perhaps with manual)

I ship worldwide, but you pay the stamps :-)
2009-02-23 14:35
SIDWAVE
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on ebay.co.uk they sell complete c64 systems with disks, joystick, drive etc. etc. its really no prob to get a working c64.
2009-02-23 19:53
Wile Coyote
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Managed to win an old shaped C64 on Ebay :D
Its supposed to be in working condition. Lets hope so. From the photo it appears to be in good condition, boxed, and comes with the original Commodore Joystick, as well as some stuff I have no use for (tape deck, books, about 7 games).

While I was shopping for some new C64 stuff, found a new lead to connect to my Commodore Monitor, and a C64 scartlead to connect to my TV :D

All I need to find now is my favourite 8bit joystick. Its called 'The Arcade'. There's 2 styles, one with a fire button on the top of the stick, and the cooler one without a fire button on the top (it has a ball). I have one of these Joysticks already, but it don't work too well, and has been repaired more times than I remember.

It'll be good to watch some on the better demos released in recent times on Commodore hardware, as while VICE is good, it don't compare to the real thing.



2009-02-23 20:02
Mace

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I've got a possible buyer for the 128D, so no bids on that one anymore ;-)
2009-02-23 20:36
FATFrost
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i bought my last c64 with 1541 and a couple of carts (ar6 and fc3) for £2!!!! lol.... uk car boots are great for c64 stuffs, if i find anymore i'll post here for peeps to buy.
2009-02-24 18:36
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
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Fatfrost , yep they are but you have to be very lucky =)

I'm sure there are still plenty of lofts etc holding machines, but once the retro people saw there was a market, it upped the prices *sigh*

2009-02-24 19:12
grennouille

Registered: Jul 2008
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Not commdore related but... What is the value of a Magnavox CD-Interactive (CD-I 200)? I search on ebay Canada but didn't see any. I got an offer of 90$ CAN (72$ US, 56 EU, 50 UK, 111 AUS$).

2009-02-28 21:11
Wile Coyote
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The Commodore 64 arrived, and it boots up just fine. Unlike my other 2 (non working) C64’s which have brown F keys, this new one has orange / beige F keys.

Checked out EOD/BD and it worked just fine, although while the demo was running I noticed the pallet was not so great.

Red appears too dark, unlike the usual washed out C64 Red :(
Orange looks too light, and not dark :(
Purple / Magenta looks too pink :(
Brown is possibly too dark :(

All the other colours look fine.

Is there any thing I can turn inside the hardware to sort the colours out?
2009-02-28 22:01
Jon
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I may be asking the obvious... But is your monitor / telly adjusted properly? That's where I'd look first before dissecting your new 64.

2009-03-01 02:19
The Phantom

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I'd part with my boxed 128 (in ORIGINAL static-free plastic), snapshot 5 cart, 1702 monitor and prolly all the cables that pertain to the c64 (might be a spare 1702 monitor cable, half baked x1541 cable, etc)...

I'd prolly want $20 for myself, YOU pay shipping.

It is an NTSC unit.. Just PM if interested.

*****EDIT

I forgot to mention there are 2 1541's. I know one works and one doesn't. I also think one drive is missing the "C=" logo from the top (it's on my monitor now).

The 1702 works 100%, as does the 128. The snapshot works as well, although it lacks the label it used to have.

I've been lugging this thing around for 8 years. Found it at a flea market and jumped on it. Hooked it up once, found it working and packed it all up again.
2009-03-01 04:03
A Life in Hell
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what i've been trying to buy of late is not a 128d, i have one of these, but a keytbaoard for it - mine sadly has none :(. anyone got one they want to seperate from their dead unit? :)
2009-03-01 04:04
A Life in Hell
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Quote: I may be asking the obvious... But is your monitor / telly adjusted properly? That's where I'd look first before dissecting your new 64.



or maybe he has an old vic - i had a c64 with this vic once myself. you cn see it in vice by disabling "new lumanances"
2009-03-01 17:16
Wile Coyote
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@ninjas bane - contrast brightness adjustment makes zero difference
@sad panda is sad - if so, old vic is no good

/checks out VICE.. new luminance’s on / off..
Looks like my new C64 has the old luminance >:(


left - old luminance
right - new luminance

picture: multimediot / dk

Notice how the orange looks too light, pink too bright, giving a horrible washed out look. No good for graphics / demos.

I once attempted to swap SID chips, from c64 to another, as one sounded better than the other. For some reason, it didn’t work out.

Can VIC chips be swapped around, for one c64 to another, if the 64’s are different revisions?
2009-03-01 20:02
Wile Coyote
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..after butchering 3 broken breadboxes (1 worked, all be it without sound, and weird screen issues) I’ve ended up with what appears to be a working C64. So now have a 1993 old / original luminance 64 and a 1994 with new luminance 64 :D


EOD running on standard TV, for that extra bass that the Commodore Monitor lacks :)
Its good to see c64 demos without the screen to audio miss timing that emu's feature.
2009-03-01 21:28
Wile Coyote
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Spoke too soon ;)
Loaded up Krestage 3, it loaded fine. 'Run' the demo and the intro worked fine. Then came the next part, and that to ran fine, until the 9th sprite appeared, well it didn’t appear. The music went wrong, one of the grey raster lines in the lower border vanished, and the whole screen turned black ? - I wonder what chip as the fault?
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