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2010-12-20 22:29
SIDWAVE
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A dream come true, or a hoax ?

http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx
2010-12-20 22:44
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Only one way to find out, order it!

Not sure I would call a PC in a C64-like case a dream come true exactly. But it's a lovely web page with transparent pictures and all.
2010-12-20 23:50
Rough
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Posts: 1829
This looks pretty cool. Maybe all these retro fans and kids jump on the bandwagon and make the C= brand worldwide known AGAIN.
2010-12-21 00:17
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
Something very important is missing in the specifications list... a REAL SID chip! :-)
2010-12-21 06:18
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Atom based, so it won't be enough to run Vice with resid-fp, I think. Hence, useless. ;-)
2010-12-21 08:13
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
All "Commodore revival" companies are vending nothing but bullshit and broken old dreams. Stick to the ones who actually deliver stuff that matters, like Jens and Gideon.
2010-12-21 09:42
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424
There is no product here. The images are just concept renders. This company is doing nothing but burning through venture capital and then after they're done they'll leave the Commodore brand name in a worse state than it was before.
2010-12-21 09:44
Cresh

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354
No coffee machine?
Will not buy.
2010-12-21 10:14
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
Hm. As if there wasn't enough junk drifting around in outer space already...
2010-12-21 12:10
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2924
These certainly aren't renders -> http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64Prototype.aspx

Getting one or two prototypes made up like that isn't any real expense. I'd love to have one of those cases, fit a proper small motherboard in there, etc.

Like all recent incarnations of "Commodore" I don't expect anything besides off the shelf parts clones and lots of promises that fall short when they can't get funding to go beyond a few CNC'ed prototypes.
2010-12-21 12:45
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
and i thought people realised by now that all that commodoreusa ever did and will do is releasing press releases ...
2010-12-21 21:52
Exin64
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´Hmm, as what i've seen on the website, the hardware itself doesnt look very nice nor it shows that the statements made are true.

Even a dual core Atom is nort very fast. There are similar cpu's from Via, twice as fast. Why still use that dreaded Intel Atom?

Ok, there is a brreadbin case, but its plastic looks semi-transparent like one of those creepy realdolls. Coincidence??? You decide!

Also, they state, the keyboard is better than the original. From the pics, i see simple switches. If there is one thing as rugged and dependable on a C64, then it was its keyboard. Its something you cant impove. Also, wtf 5 F-keys!

For those who know how C64's and Amiga's look like, the connectors are all on the wrong sides...

So, what's going to run on it. Windows 7? With Ion graphics? Come on...
2010-12-22 02:47
The Phantom

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360
It's not right! It's not right I tell you!

@Exin64: I thought I was the only one who thought those realdolls were creepy.
2010-12-22 06:09
The Shadow

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304
This "Commodore USA" company is making a mockery, of themselves. Woowee, any dumbhead can shove a PC into an empty breadbin case. If they truly have acquired the Commodore licensing then someone needs to tell them to make real C=64 computers. Real chips, real ports and an accurate keyboard (four function keys). People all over the world would buy authentic Commodore 64s.
2010-12-22 07:58
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047
The Shadow: Word!
2010-12-22 07:59
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274
those photos of the albino c64 are just the shit. who wants to buy a lousy system in a even worse case :D

CEO "hey let's buy the name, do the shit and hope we get rich overnight...."

Developer "(ehm, but our "invention" is the shit?)"

CEO "no worries, I know how to do proper marketing, none will see that it is a cheapass chinamade .5 cent albino housinf that even looks the shit"

Developer "ok, but then we try to fix in some enhancements.... let's say I got 4 fingers and a thumb, let's have 5 function-keys then, and it has to look like the shit, too, so that none can see that we never ever saw a real machine before..."

COE "Well, that Atari-64 erm something we will reinvent, will be a real success, trust me, it looks like the original one I saw last year when I got out of the lunatic asylum again..."

Developer "yeah, that sounds nice, at least you saw one ones"

CEO "Next stop, a video recorder that look like an amiga, or better, the other way around....."

Developer "Gee, CEO, what do you want to do tonight?"

CEO "The same thing we do every night, Developer - try to take over the world!"

and all "the developer and the brain, brain brain brain....."


2010-12-22 14:55
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
If they do produce a machine I for sure will buy one, with four or five fkeys... Are we here talking about the 200 people using csdb that will buy the machine from around the world? Guess they will not be rich from that, must be something more... And to be honest, the real machine, I would love to buy one that were build today, but man, there are not many people like us, we are a very strange and abnormal gathering of silly nostalgic fools loving this strange shit to the max... I love it...

I would go for something that is updated, even it means another fkey...

About the creepy realdol look of the prototype... that is what a prototype do look like... the cheapest way to test the shape is to send of a 3d model and get it back, just like that... and then it sure looks like that... that is what prototyping is, a cheap version that do not cost a fortune to build, the first real one they build are the most expencive you see... thats why the prototyping first.
2010-12-23 15:01
Sorex
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and where do I plug in my C64 Arcade joystick? :)

seems they forgot about that, and the other hand...
they didn't forget anything as it's not a custom board anyway.

seems like that rip off we had a decade ago with that c64 laptop that was a plain laptop with C64S or CCS64 running on it in dos or windows.

If it was a DTV like thing made by a pro like Jeri E. people might actually buy it but this is just something to skip and forget.
2010-12-24 18:47
The Shadow

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304
Marketed correctly, new Commodore 64 machines can be educational tools for children. Learning computers a very direct way. Millions of people would buy them for this purpose.
2010-12-25 03:18
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2924
There are far better education programs in place now, using very cheap PC based machines, for children. Far cheaper than any "rebuild C64" plan would ever be able to produce; even considering newer technologies to replace old chips.
2010-12-25 23:39
BHF
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Zzzzzzz.... The "new Commodore" is just a brand now, nothing else.
2010-12-27 14:46
Heavy Stylus

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 62
Hypothetically, lets assume that this fake company has acquired the C= licensing rights.

I have to concur with Shadow that surely it would make more sense to build a REAL replica of the C64 instead? A limited re-run of the original machine would sell far better than a PC in a breadbin case :P

Another, perhaps more interesting idea would be a run of DTV machines in a redesigned, smaller C64c or breadbin style case, complete with SD card port and so on.
2010-12-27 17:29
grennouille

Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 222
---"Another, perhaps more interesting idea would be a run of DTV machines in a redesigned, smaller C64c or breadbin style case, complete with SD card port and so on."---

I am waiting for this since I heard about DTV mods that I can't do myself.
2010-12-27 22:32
TWW

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 545
Just out of curiosity:

What do the sceene think about the folowing:

If a redesigned (who knows, say DTV capabilities with all the right ports'n stuff) C64 should come out today, would it be cool if the chassis and keys on the keyboard was made in aluminum?

2010-12-28 02:38
The Shadow

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304
cooler if made of carbon fiber or lexan polycarbonate
2010-12-28 02:40
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2924
Since we're dreaming ... how about crystal or maybe diamond? platinum? kevlar?
2010-12-28 03:17
The Phantom

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360
I'd get the kevlar :D
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