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2011-07-07 16:24

Asphodel

Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 45

What are great Music and Art Collections?

I`m working on a C64 collection for Xbox at the moment.
I`d like to also include some Music and graphics collections, but there are so many!

Any ideas about collections that should absolutely be included?

(With 'collections' i mean self starting Menus or Slide-shows etc. not Disks with separate Sids and Pictures!)

2011-07-07 17:35

STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274

well in all honesty, i really cant see you being able to put such a thing together without compiling it yourself.

there are several "gallery" style demos and disks knocking around, but in reality, none of the ones you can download will truly be representative of "the best the c64 can offer".

art and music tastes are just far too subjective and diverse on the c64 to provide you with what you seek. What would make it onto my top 10 art disk for example may not make it onto someone elses.

Steve

2011-07-07 17:54

Asphodel

Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 45

I see what You mean. Ofcourse any selection will always be subjective, no matter if I choose one or someone else does.
But I think that a lot of people over here have greater knowledge about what's 'out there' than I have..

What I`m hoping for is to get an idea of some kind of 'Average-chart', like the 'Top-Demos' section here.

So the more 'subjective' opinions the better. Sure there are some collections most people agree on?

As for 'best representation' ; you've got a point there. So if anyone feels strongly about certain SIDS or Art, mention it too ;)

Thanks in Advance for any opinions

2011-07-07 18:43

A3

Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 362

Try:

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/toplist.php?type=release&subtype=%28..

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/toplist.php?type=release&subtype=%28..

2011-07-07 19:18

Asphodel

Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 45

Ha! thanks for that simple option! :P Somehow I`ve overlooked it on the site; dumb stupid me.

I`m sure that will get me started at least ;) thanks

2011-07-07 19:24

Yogibear

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 223

All (B)ears

This is a nice music colly. (yes music by me!).

But you have to choose the tunes yourself in the menu part.

Good luck with your project!

2011-07-07 19:52

STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274

Quote: Try:

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/toplist.php?type=release&subtype=%28..

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/toplist.php?type=release&subtype=%28..

yes you could do that. but does that really give the the "best of the best" of c64 art?

not really, when my set of unused PD shooter graphics can be listed as high 13th and there's not a Bob Stevenson, Paul Docherty, Steve Thompson link there at all in the top 10.

you would be much better advised to look at the collections on here by artist not by collections themselves. only then will you really see what's on offer.

Steve

2011-07-07 21:08

Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317

@STE
"yes you could do that. but does that really give the the "best of the best" of c64 art?"

yes it does :D

2011-07-07 21:39

chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360

Quote:

but does that really give the the "best of the best" of c64 art? not really, when my set of unused PD shooter graphics can be listed as high 13th

time for some corrective voting people !

2011-07-07 23:57

STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274

ohh troll hat firmly in place now is it groepaz?
is it really the job of a mod on here to incite people to downvote i wonder? you just don't seem to be able to help yourself.

i do hope the other mods and admins are now taking notice of your change of status on this thread.

@Carrion how you think that list is representative of the best in c64 art with no Steve Thompson in it is quite beyond me tbh.

or wayne schmidt, Bob Stevenson, Paul Docherty, Jim Sachs or indeed anyone else who pushed pixels before 1994. all these square up perfectly well against the best on that list.

hardly representative when all it shows is how little anyone looks and votes on anything prior to 2000.

Steve

2011-07-08 04:06

chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360

Quote:

is it really the job of a mod on here to incite people to downvote i wonder?

no it is not, no idea why you have such strange ideas. if you look at the list, its obvious that its based on way too few votes for way too few productions and people. and there is only one way to correct that: vote more.

2011-07-08 06:46

STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274

oh my apologies, i just thought you were being a trolly bastard. afterall it's not like you have "form" for it or anything is it?

2011-07-08 11:33

CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts:

IMO he is kinda trolly and annoying bastard, but he is right about the unreliability of ranks based on voting. It's best to get advice from people and that is exactly what Asphodel did. The best thing we can do for him is to give him direct links to the stuff we consider best. Not my mission though.

2011-07-08 15:37

STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274

I do stand by my statement that you cant see anywhere near all the best art on the c64 by seaching graphic collections by rank.

however, if you search artists you will get:

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/toplist.php?type=scener&subtype=%284..

now if you ignore the ranks (because of the aforesaid lack of voting on old stuff and sceners)work you way down the list and view these peoples art, THEN you will find most of the "best of the best" in the way of c64 art.

also go to http://c64pixels.com/main.php, register (free) and systematically go through the artists on there you will also see most of the best in c64 art. I say "most" because there are some missing persons. (Veto, remember to add SIR :) )

Steve

2011-07-08 17:19

Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.204451609623.130417.77..

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.194250484623.128642.77..

2011-07-08 21:45

chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360

those links are broken =P

2011-07-09 05:28

Rough
Account closed

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829

@STE: Mind that this site mainly focuses on the (former underground) scene, also graphic-wise, so people who were mainly known for doing commercial game graphics are under-represented.

Advise to anyone: Ignore those vote-lists, they are crap.

2011-07-09 06:38

Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317

@STE
the best art collection is not only about gfx. its a kind of demo so the overal design, + music + concept to bind this together are important things

2011-07-09 08:56

STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274

@rough
prior to going commercial, SIT, BOB, Dokk, and myself were, with Sarge, probably the main contributors to the original "underground" (if you wish to call it that) graphic scene in europe. Excepting of course in the UK it wasn't "underground" at all really, as CNET was very much well publicised in Zzap.

@carrion
ok fair enough that's your take on it. mine would be best graphic collections should be best art collection ow its "best demo". same as i don't believe that pictures with music should be allowed in graphic compos because the music can bias the judgement of the graphic one way or another.

2011-07-09 17:41

CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts:

<Post edited by CreaMD on 9/7-2011 19:42>

@STE'86 (music in pics) We don't play music in GFX during comeptitions at Forever Parties. And I'm sure 99% of other parties don't do that either.

2011-07-09 17:42

Rough
Account closed

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829

True.

2011-07-09 17:57

Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317

STE, CreaMD
true, true
music in gfx compo is lame
but I have some kind of problem with 2 screen (or more) pics on regular compos too. dont have an opinion thou. to many reason for pro and cons...

2011-07-09 21:06

Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381

This one :)
The Oxsid Book

2011-07-10 05:10