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Monte Carlos
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 351 |
Church of C64
What is this Church of C64 thing about?
It makes me suspicious, because they come up with
a very hirarchical organisation and seem to introduce
"Pay members" again.
Monte Carlos
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ready.
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441 |
I've just noticed from www.c64.sk portal a new church has opened: church of LDA STA. This one too asking money. It looks more like a provocative joke in reaction to church of C64. I think some people should separate these 3 things: c64, money making and religion. First of all c64 today is kept alive by the spirit of nostalgic sceners and their audiance. This community shares all c64 production for free, that's the spirit and that's the way we (people on this forum) want it to be, I guess. Secondly we should distinguish between religion and c64. I think the considering c64 a religion is going a bit too far. It might be just for a joke, but I think the stuff on the Church of C64 site, has some exagerations. This doesn't want to be a religious discussion, I just want to clearify that the c64 for itself doesn't save your soul...it might be used for this purpose,as it is one of God's gifts to us (a great gift too!!)as everything on earth, but it is not the main thing. |
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Graham
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
why do you think a religion around the c64 is "going a bit too far"? after all the c64 does exist and god does not... i prefer praising things that actually exist because talking to non-existant persons can bring you into mental hospital. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5027 |
afterall "jedi" is a registered religion in one of the countrys :) |
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Puterman
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 188 |
ready: "spirit of nostalgic sceners"? Please tell me you're joking. |
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Monte Carlos
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 351 |
The point is of how to bring the message of c64 to the masses. Should it be done by convincing people, that it makes sense, what we are doing, or should it be done by crying out the name c64 hysterically?
What we need is a critical and self critical dispute about the strength and the weaks of the c64 scene and NOT always that "We are the best" thing, which annoys me in the go64, in several party reports and how some sceners talk about users of other computer systems.
Of course it was fun to see a c64 altar on mekka.
And i like too some pc dizzing stuff, but things like the Jihad video go too far!!
I just have the impression, based on some observations discribed obove, that c64 fanatics founding a religion will not tolerate other ways of thinking about c64.
There is nothing bad about whatever religion itself, but how they always ended and were practised this is the point.
And Church 64 will be of that kind, i'm very sure.
Because, if Pater Pi would not be that fanatic he would be interested, that everybody who wants can get information of how to do things on c64 and not only the members.
This itself is not a democratic idea, violates the rules of free software and will not be understood, if c64 is in the press again.
That c64 is in the press sometimes is a nice thing, but we shouldn't take the reporters for nuts with some church thingy.
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ready.
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 441 |
to Graham:this is no place for religious considerations, I know, but let me just say we obviously have a different point of view about God's existance. If anybody praise the c64 as a god, I respect that. My first post was just my personal point of view.
to Puterman: ok, "spirit of nostalic sceners" is not correct, since "nostalic" refears to something dead, while thanks to all the ethusiastic sceners the c64 is still ALIVE. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11146 |
monta carlos: didnt pater pi state that he has nothing to do with that church of c64 thing? also would you care to explain what exactly c64 scene has to do with free software in the sence that linux does?
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Monte Carlos
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 351 |
Sorry i meant Pingo!
To Pater Pi: Excuse me for this!
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Nightlord
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 131 |
one really has to be bored and inactive to write more than three lines here :) |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 475 |
indeed. that, and thinking that the c64 is gods great gift. |
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