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8bitforever
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Registered: Oct 2009
Posts: 48 |
New 8-bit TV-computer
A Commodore 64 competitor has arrived again. :-)
Has anyone some experience with the "Educational computer" or "8-bit TV-computer" or "Victor-70" or Famicom ?
All names above are names for the same computer.
It´s based on the 6502 processor.
It can play NES cartridges.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjSLZ-x-GxM
http://www.itexaminer.com/12-indian-computers-tip-up-in-silicon..
http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKPP1
http://playpower.org
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morphfrog
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 32 |
Another site where you have NES clones are www.dealextreme.com a china based store witch have free shipping around the world.
And the customs haven't checked the stuff I have ordered form there yet :-)
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linde
Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 47 |
There are also pretty sweet Mega Drive clones floating around. On DealExtreme I bought a joypad with an SD card interface that lets me play most mega drive games (with some glitches and mono sound of course). With all the complaints people have about famiclones, I don't think they are as accurate as these. |
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Twoflower
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434 |
I've been concidering one of those sweet double (or triple) function console clones like the Retro Duo (SNES+NES) or the Yobo FC 3 (SNES+Megadrive+NES). I guess that the NES-clone is the weak point in the bundles. Anybody got any experience with these? Save for those, one of those new handheld NES-clones would be swell too. |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1641 |
@Stingray (or someone else): Why would you need some sort of adapters to connect megadrive controllers to a C64? As far as I remember, they work anyway, without adapters? |
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xaMpi
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 9 |
@stingray
Your setup looks very nice!
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Stingray
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Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 117 |
@xaMpi
Thanks :)
@Frantic
The wireless controllers in the photo will not work at all without the adaptors.
The adaptors also provide functions for some of the other buttons on the controller, most importaintly the waddle button, this works well when using a control pad to play games like Wizzball.
When you have a Mega Drive controller pluged into the C64 any typing you do will be screwed up, but not if you use the adaptors, you can type no problem plus you could also have a mouse connected at the same time.
Some PPL say using the Mega Drive controllers without diodes in CCT can damage your CIA.
Also, it may just be me, but when I have had Mega Drive controllers connected directly to the C64 the fire buttons have been a bit dodgey (as in doesn't always seem to work). |
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taper
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 119 |
As Stingray says, Megadrive/genesis joypads used on a c64 is rumoured to be hazarous for your 6526 chips. The keyboard does indeed fuck up when a MD joypad is plugged in. However, I'm yet to hear anyone who can actually confirm having blown a CIA by using an MD joypad. Still, I would for sure not risc it, 6526 is sensitive enough as it is. However, Mastersystem joypads are safe to use. I've been using one for several years.
About the "NES-in-a-chip" chip (hehe), it's not as bad as some make it seem here. Out of my carts I think I only found one that it couldn't take (Castelvania III if I remember correctly). Sure, some games do glitch, but to be honest, some games glitch on an original NES too, so... ;)
Not saying it's better than the real deal, but it's totally accaptable. |
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Twoflower
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434 |
Well - first of all, the sound is kind of borked on the NES-clones. I believe it has something to with the volume-levels of the different channels. Follin-stuff does f.ex never sound as booming and crisp as it does on the original.
Save for Castlevania III (I doubt any MMC5 game works) - Mach Rider and Slalom doesn't work on my clones and neither does that awesome firefighter game and some other oldies. But it's nice that it weighs nothing. |
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QuasaR
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 145 |
When I recognized that some keys weren't working when connecting the MegaDrive/Genesis controllers I cutted (more or less randomly) some wires to make them work on my stock C64 and C128D. Didn't had any knowlegde about what I was doing back then but it work quite well. So over years the joypad was my favorite joystick (and it's still doing fine...). |
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Adam
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 323 |
Odd.. I've been using Master System and Megadrive pads
on my c64/128's for years, I've never blown any chips.
The only problem I recall and have encountered recently
is when it's plugged into Port 1. It stops me from typing
anything on the 128-d keyboard. I may have to check just
out of interest.. I can't say i've ever had to make any
wacky adjustments or rewire any sega pads to work on the
commie..
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