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2021-10-11 09:52
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 1109
Release id #210249 : Pattern Finder +1D

Removed various postings from entry comments as it's once more general blahblah about what is a crack in these times.

@TheWarCriminal: You have been explained in great detail and overly politely why certain content does not belong into entry comments. However, you keep abusing comments instead of using forums and thus, generate work for moderators. Moderators' patience with you might come to an end soon. Consider yourself warned. EDIT: In case you've got a short memory, lookee here https://csdb.dk/forums/?csdbentrytype=release&csdbentry=208458&..

So here's the deleted stuff:
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Submitted by Plus -1- [PM] on 11 October 2021
This just proves there are STILL some wankers, that cruise in here THINKING they know how shit work, when in fact they have no clue! RTFM before you speak bro... Nothing to see here... "ON TO THE NEXT CRACK"

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Submitted by Jazzcat [PM] on 11 October 2021
Unsure about the weird little cabal comment; but the release for me is fine, gives people choice between a trainer or not.

The whole discussion about the definition of a crack has been regurgitated many times. e.g. https://csdb.dk/forums/?roomid=7&topicid=90014#90138

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Submitted by Six [PM] on 11 October 2021
Your complaints might be better directed at whatever weird little cabal decided to change the scene rules in the 90s and 2000s so they could pretend to be crackers. Our tactic for pushing reform is to beat them at their own game. Your tactic seems to be to complain about releases - though I notice for some odd reason you managed not to take offense at the other "crack" released today.

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Submitted by Shocker [PM] on 11 October 2021
:-)

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Submitted by TheWarCriminal [PM] on 11 October 2021
really? so you just get the game from an user here and do a trainer, slap an intro and call it a crack? apparently the remainder of what little scene is left don't care about their own rules anymore. A crack requires removing protection. This is not a crack.
 
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2021-10-12 22:46
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 247
Quote: Someone properly define IMPORT -- and I'll crack any of your cracky cracking definitions.

And while that someone is at it: please also explain why some prefered HANSA EXPORT over HANSA PILS or the other way around. This always confused me.

Thanx & Cheers!
2021-10-12 22:50
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 10072
Quote:
some prefered HANSA EXPORT over HANSA PILS

As someone from the 80/90s era i do not approve this
2021-10-12 22:51
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2111
Quoting TheWarCriminal
Just cause you link intros on a non commercial game (magazine, github, gb64, ect) does NOT make you a cracker.
Crack this. =D
2021-10-13 03:12
ws

Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 62
? Was something like this already done, actually:

Quickly cobble together a very simple, but working game that is releaseworthy (cough) and then hammer the disk with some very nasty copy protections.

There you have it: a cracking compo. The fastest cracker (all protections removed, bugfix, ntscfix, trainer, docs, exclusive cracktro) is then the momentary #1337 craxx0r world champion and everyone else who ticks all the boxes get a "real cracker" status and are subsequently immune to any "thats not a real crack, you're not a real cracker"-talk.

Somebody could even be so mean and spoil the cracking compo for everybody else, by releasing a deprotect-walkthrough... but what if they didn't find that super long timebomb protection? The shame - oh the shame.

;-)
2021-10-13 07:09
chuinho

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 424
a cracking compo? rings a bell... C64 Cracking Competition 2015
2021-10-13 10:10
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2111
Quoting chuinho
a cracking compo? rings a bell... C64 Cracking Competition 2015
Funny thing is, the guy who won doesn't even go by "cracker", and is an excellent coder. He also beat the old Transwarp v0.64 crypto challenge in no time. =)
2021-10-13 10:26
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 1109
Quoting ws
? Was something like this already done, actually:

Quickly cobble together a very simple, but working game that is releaseworthy (cough) and then hammer the disk with some very nasty copy protections. ...

n0mistake did that once at a BCC party with CRX Race
He put at least half-a-dozen ways of copy-protection measures he could remember or find on a real disc and then challenged me to crack it. Of course I was the wrong guy to do it and passed the task over to our only real cracker CSixx who succeeded rather quickly in producing a working crack. However, in our working version some mere disk filler files remained on the disk and LXT's version one year later replaced Krill Loader by 6R6 loader, so their version's better in the aftermath, also NTSC fixed.

@Count Zero: for you What's an import?
@Spider: Hansa Export and Hansa Pilsner both tasted shitty but Export had more alcohol in it, so the tough kids but always went for Export, also more ecomonic if the target is to get drunk with a limited amount of money :D
2021-10-13 12:13
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2111
Quoting TheRyk
later replaced Krill Loader by 6R6 loader, so their version's better in the aftermath
Please elaborate. :)
2021-10-13 12:50
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 1109
[OT/Krill]omg I didn't want to say anything blasphemous about your loader /o\

Just Didi's version with 6R6's loader made it a little more compatible with unreal hw[/offtopic]
*flees*
2021-10-13 12:59
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2111
Quoting TheRyk
Just Didi's version with 6R6's loader made it a little more compatible with unreal hw
[OT] Haha, ok. Technically, the unreal hw is more compatible with Glenn's loader (not the loader with the hw - burden of support clearly lies with the emulator, not the software).
On my side, there has been an SD2IEC compatibility option called "KERNAL fallback" for ages, though. :) (And native support *by* (not for) SD2IEC is in the pipeline.)
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