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2008-01-09 15:53
Shadow
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Covers that you thought were original C64 tunes..

Back in the eighties/early nineties I was a HUGE nerd that never went 'out' or listened to music or whatever the cool kids did (OK, all of the aforementioned still applies, but.. :D)
That meant that pretty much the only music I listened to came from the glorious SID chip. In the years since there has been many occasions where I've heard a tune on the radio/TV/mp3 and gone "WOW! They made a cover of the tune from demo X" and then a second later "Uhmm.. wait a minute.. it was probably the other way around".
Some notable examples:
* Domino Dancing / Pet Shop boys. I thought this was a C64 original up until I heard it on the radio a couple of years ago :D
* The tune from some Success demo, turned out to be a Koto cover
* The superb introtune from Partytrap. It was not until I read the comments here on CSDB that I realized it was a cover.

OK, am I the only one who has experienced this? :D
2008-01-09 15:57
chatGPZ

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look in STIL.txt in hvsc :)
2008-01-09 16:12
jailbird

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As a kid, for a while I thought Layla was a C64 song and it really shocked me when I heard the original on the radio.

By the way, sometimes I wonder why it's much more accepted on the scene to do cover music or remix than copying graphics? :)
2008-01-09 16:15
chatGPZ

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come up with a mp3 to sid converter and this will change =)
2008-01-09 17:00
Oswald

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yeah, Groepaz got the point exactly. its much harder to cover a music, than copy gfx.
2008-01-09 17:12
jailbird

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Quote:
yeah, Groepaz got the point exactly. its much harder to cover a music, than copy gfx.


You mean, to convert graphics, right? Copy != wired.
But yeah, I get the point :)
2008-01-09 17:13
chatGPZ

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even the good old copy-by-grid method is fairly easy, it's just work. even i can do that :)
2008-01-09 18:51
TDJ

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I am the walrus by TDM .. Really.
2008-01-09 19:26
Hein

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Quote: yeah, Groepaz got the point exactly. its much harder to cover a music, than copy gfx.

Not if you got good ears or a midi file. Almost every hip song got a midi file somewhere.

It's as difficult as the good old copy-with-grid method. (well, ok, 3 channels vs 16 colours)

Both are good practices, though, copying gfx and copying music. Especially picking out the essential bits, abstracting the details to less.
2008-01-09 19:57
Turtle
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Quote: Not if you got good ears or a midi file. Almost every hip song got a midi file somewhere.

It's as difficult as the good old copy-with-grid method. (well, ok, 3 channels vs 16 colours)

Both are good practices, though, copying gfx and copying music. Especially picking out the essential bits, abstracting the details to less.


Some fast complexity calculations....

3 channels * 65536 freq possibilities = 196608 possible channel/freq combinations

vs.

16 colours * 64000 pixels = 1024000 coulour/pixel combinations

concludes to: Songcovers should easier to be done than Imagecovers ;-)

But, wait! Maybe I should add the waveforms and pulses...

Then, there should be 3 ch * 65536 freq * (3 wf +(4 wf *4096 pulsevalues) = 3221815296 ch/freq/wf/pulse conbinations.

Correct me, if I'm wrong (which is almost inevitable).

Just kidding. I know how hard it is to compose, whether soundwise or visualwise, even to cover. Especially when you have no talent, like me! ;-)


Turtle
2008-01-09 20:13
Stainless Steel

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For the longest time i was totally unaware that "Two divided by zero" from Trond Kjetil Lindanger
(of which i even made a cover "Division by zero") is in fact itself a cover of "Two divided by zero"
from the pet shop boys.

What a surprise that was.

I still prefer Trond's version a thousand times more than the "original".

2008-01-09 22:43
Devia

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I recently heard the 1942 music played in a very nice orchestral version on TV. I think it was at some danish crap award show (forgot which one)... Then checked the STIL and found out 1942 is a cover of the music from some movie called "633rd Squadron" from 1964... never knew that ;-)
2008-01-10 05:16
JackAsser

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There is a dude who wishes to remain anonymous who have collected quite a few mp3s that are the originals to the corresponding sids. This collection contains at least to me quite many surprises, such as the original for the Maniac Mansion music etc.

If you wish I could get hold of the collection again and torrent it or something.

/JackAsser
2008-01-10 06:19
Style

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Anything by Hubbard.
2008-01-10 07:56
Oswald

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Jack, I wish it on saturday after 19:00 :)
2008-01-10 08:08
JackAsser

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Quote: Jack, I wish it on saturday after 19:00 :)

Heh, I'll talk to the dude again. :D
2008-01-10 08:50
Oswald

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thanx man :)
2008-01-10 09:05
JackAsser

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I really don't wanna fiddle with torrents nor crapid-share. Can someone provide me some hosting?
2008-01-10 09:32
Oswald

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some of the c64 ftp sites could host it probably, and I think I'm not alone who would like to dl it.
2008-01-10 09:51
Wisdom

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Most tunes by Hubbard.

"Two Divided by Zero" by Trond. I was also very surprised as Stainless Steel on this one.

Xpiose intro tune by Nordic Beat. I do not know who did the original but I have heard it in a restaurant. (BTW, this one is not in STIL yet. Other tunes from the same SID might be covers as well.)
2008-01-10 13:27
JackAsser

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Quote: Most tunes by Hubbard.

"Two Divided by Zero" by Trond. I was also very surprised as Stainless Steel on this one.

Xpiose intro tune by Nordic Beat. I do not know who did the original but I have heard it in a restaurant. (BTW, this one is not in STIL yet. Other tunes from the same SID might be covers as well.)


Ok, I've got the collection here. It's 403230766 bytes zipped and it's called TOCI - "The Origin of C64 Inspiration".

Someone provide me an FTP and I'll up it immediately.

/Andreas
2008-01-13 20:12
Oswald

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=zz_p3DhoJDY

sounds like the JT track with extra drums, or JT managed to get so friggin close to the arcade music ? the speech sounds like the JT version tho. confusing piece.
2008-01-13 20:21
chatGPZ

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Quote:

sounds like the JT track with extra drums


because thats exactly what it is =P

http://www.ocremix.org/info/ReMix_Changelog

OCR00783 - Turbo OutRun 'Slam the Gas'

* Reason: SID rip + drums.
2008-01-13 20:44
Oswald

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wow, well I really havent expected some guy showcasing an old pc game will use a remixed sid tune as background music :) thank you.



2008-01-18 16:23
Tim
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Quote: Back in the eighties/early nineties I was a HUGE nerd that never went 'out' or listened to music or whatever the cool kids did (OK, all of the aforementioned still applies, but.. :D)
That meant that pretty much the only music I listened to came from the glorious SID chip. In the years since there has been many occasions where I've heard a tune on the radio/TV/mp3 and gone "WOW! They made a cover of the tune from demo X" and then a second later "Uhmm.. wait a minute.. it was probably the other way around".
Some notable examples:
* Domino Dancing / Pet Shop boys. I thought this was a C64 original up until I heard it on the radio a couple of years ago :D
* The tune from some Success demo, turned out to be a Koto cover
* The superb introtune from Partytrap. It was not until I read the comments here on CSDB that I realized it was a cover.

OK, am I the only one who has experienced this? :D


hehe no ;)

took me some years to realise that quite a few of TDMs tracks are covers, such as Live_in_Leningrad.sid or Eleanor_Rigby.sid .. hehe.

Another one most people will not know are the Spijkerhoek sids, of which Edwin van Santen's version probably is the best well known.. i loved this tune so much that I even bought the cd-single which is nothing else then a tune from a dutch tv-show back in those days :)
2008-01-18 20:02
Rough
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As I grew up with pop music and 60s stuff as the Beatles or Stones I was often introduced to classical music first by playing all these old games 1982-1985 which often used classic stuff.

examples: Jet Set Willy, Gyruss, Friday the 13th, Sailing, Tales of the Arabian Nighs, Elite, Battle through Time

I still admire Rimsky-Korsakov.
2008-02-08 03:03
chancer

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TDJ .. I can understand with that specific song, out of all the songs it's not the best known of their work.

rough, as for classical , not like the original author could sue for usage, so they were easy target. It's like club'd to death by rob d (in the matrix) is a samuel barber tune =)

my favourite covers. .hhmm hypersports by martin galway /
l.e.d. storm by tim follin / venice in peril by ashley hogg (it's on the zzap sampler thing)

one of the first demos I saw ever was

The Bogg Collection Volume 1

but I didn't know all of tune songs.

there was a sample thing YEARS ago of "everyone was kung fu fighting" , I knew of the c64 thing before the actual song.

enola gay by OMD , I remember hearing on c64 first.

it's weird when it's the other way around .. e.g. lazy jones & zombie nation and the very obvious one thats going on at the moment. I wanted to know if anyone on here owns a sidstation, if so PM me, I'm just curious about a few things, thanks.

2008-02-08 14:53
SIDWAVE
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sidstation is overpriced..
www.hypersynth.com is selling good sid synth, or use hardsid..
2008-02-08 17:24
elkmoose

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rambones: neither sidstation nor hardsid are sold anymore
2008-02-29 18:23
Jammer

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i bet, hubbard didn't sign any agreements with the authors nor paid any royalties :P
2008-04-07 11:35
MAC
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I just recently found out that Pie Tree by Ben Daglish is a cover of Rydeen by Yellow Magic Orchestra!
I've ever liked that tune. ;)
He has also covered La Femme Chinoise by Y.M.O.! Nice that they even has the album-art in the Here We Go-demo!
WE M.U.S.I.C. 5
I was quite amazed when i heard the originals!
2008-04-07 11:57
CreaMD

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Quote: rambones: neither sidstation nor hardsid are sold anymore

how come? There was some new release of hardsid announced lately. So how come they aren't sold anymore?
2008-04-07 12:24
Radiant

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A more accurate cover of "Rydeen" was done by David Dunn and Martin Galway in "Daley Thompson's Decathlon".
2008-04-07 12:46
MAC
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Quote: A more accurate cover of "Rydeen" was done by David Dunn and Martin Galway in "Daley Thompson's Decathlon".

Yep, true! But it sounds less cool! ;)
2008-04-07 13:11
dalezy

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Quote: I just recently found out that Pie Tree by Ben Daglish is a cover of Rydeen by Yellow Magic Orchestra!
I've ever liked that tune. ;)
He has also covered La Femme Chinoise by Y.M.O.! Nice that they even has the album-art in the Here We Go-demo!
WE M.U.S.I.C. 5
I was quite amazed when i heard the originals!


i wouldn't exactly call that one being a cover of rydeen, only the first 2 notes sound equal =)
2008-04-07 16:31
MAC
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There are somewhat more like 2 notes that are equal, but second part is not 100% note for note,
it's maybe more like a remix.
All in all it's alot faster and has a harsher edge to it, but when i heard the original, i had that tune in my ear immediately.
2008-10-03 07:36
JCH

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Back when Metal made the Cream tune, I actually thought it was his own composition. It was only when I added his C64 music to our web site not long ago that I discovered the truth (it was actually an Amiga DMU tune composed by Ramon Braumüller).
2008-10-06 12:01
MAC
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Anyone knows the original from the cover in this release?
Party Life

I know the song, it's some popsong from the late 80s/early 90s, but i need to know how it's called and who's the artist.
Would also be interesting to know who did the C64-cover.
2008-10-06 12:48
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/MUSICIANS/B/Bjerregaard_Johannes/Cant_Stop.sid
TITLE: Stop Loving You
ARTIST: Toto
2008-10-06 15:29
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Crest Main (A)...

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http://zomgwtfbbq.info
2008-10-06 15:40
MAC
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Ok, thanks! Unfortunately HVSC seems to be down right now. :(
2008-10-06 19:09
j0x

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http://www.google.com/search?q=hvsc+mirror :)
2009-02-25 12:47
MAC
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In which game was this again? Think it was a Hubbard tune.

Human League - Hard Times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCCu6XH5LQs
2009-02-25 12:57
Zyron

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Not sure if it was used in any game but it's in Commodore 64 Music Examples (subtune 8 in /MUSICIANS/H/Hubbard_Rob/Synth_Sample_III.sid)
2009-02-25 13:38
MAC
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Wow, there are a lot of covers in there. I did not realize that in the past.
Funny to find out that subtune10, that was used in the famous Dynamic Duo intro, is the chorus of Human League's Do or die.
2009-02-25 14:34
Ymgve

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I recently watched Koyaanisqatsi for the first time, and went "Heyyy...isn't that the Delta tune!?"
2009-02-26 09:43
yago

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I never liked Classical Music.. But i loved the Sanxion Loader (by Hubbard iirc)... 20 years later i heard the same tune, by a classical Orchestra, it was "Romeo&Juliet" O_o

2009-02-26 13:48
MAC
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For me it's somewhat disappointing to find out that some of those classic tunes are "just" cover-versions,
as i always thought that they were original compositions.
Sure, it's another point to make it sound good on a C64 with only 3 channels and other limitations.
2009-11-04 13:23
MAC
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Just found out that one of my alltime favourite C64 tunes Ski Dance from Chris Hülsbeck was in the Willy Bogner Movie Fire & Ice from 1986. Here's a video: Fire & Ice - Ski Dance
The original tune is called Panarama - Ski Dance (Edit)
Damn, i need to get this soundtrack NOW!
2009-11-04 13:48
Dane
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SID covers is a longtime C64 tradition. I should know!
2009-11-04 17:48
Clarence

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I think this one misses a 'stil' entry as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyv--uZB9h0
2009-11-04 20:21
Wile Coyote
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Before Rock, Metal, Grunge, I liked the Pet Shop Boys. "Two Divided by Zero" is good track.
Once Behaviour was released, I lost all interest in PSB

Who is Trond?
Was he/she/they before or after The Pet Shop Boys?
Where can I hear "Two Divided by Zero" by Trond
2009-11-04 20:31
Zyron

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The site has a search function which brings up Two Divided by Zero
2009-11-04 20:32
Wile Coyote
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I always though the in game music from Delta was the work of Rob Hubbard. That was until I watched the film Koyaanisqatsi ;D

Rob has done an amazing conversion.

Koyaanisqatsi (trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirH8PADDgQ
2009-11-04 20:38
Wile Coyote
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Quote: The site has a search function which brings up Two Divided by Zero

(thanks)

doh!
..half a sleep, me..
Took the post to mean, there's a .Sid cover, a PSB song, a Trond song. Was left thinking, who are Trond?
2009-11-05 12:39
Deev

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Quote: I always though the in game music from Delta was the work of Rob Hubbard. That was until I watched the film Koyaanisqatsi ;D

Rob has done an amazing conversion.

Koyaanisqatsi (trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirH8PADDgQ


You might want to listen to this as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQrzPZB58A

It is a good conversion, though I was disappointed when I found out it was pretty much just a couple of covers. I always really liked that tune, it's so different to the music you hear is most games, especially from that era. I loved how the mood changes so much halfway through - I didn't realise that was because he was ripping of 2 seperate pieces of music!
2009-11-05 13:05
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Quoting Knoeki
Crest Main (A)...

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2009-11-05 18:20
Wile Coyote
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Quote: You might want to listen to this as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQrzPZB58A

It is a good conversion, though I was disappointed when I found out it was pretty much just a couple of covers. I always really liked that tune, it's so different to the music you hear is most games, especially from that era. I loved how the mood changes so much halfway through - I didn't realise that was because he was ripping of 2 seperate pieces of music!


I’ve never seen that Pink Floyd video before, and to be fair, I’ve haven’t viewed many Pink Floyd videos.

When it comes to their music, I really like the album Wish You Were Here. Dark Side of the Moon is ok, and I play The Wall from start to finish about about once a year.

I never picked up on, On the Run, as being part of the Delta tune, although having spent many hours playing Delta (and completing it), I do recall the tune very well.
2010-06-12 21:08
MAC
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It was already mentioned that Hubbard has lots of covers, so here's another one. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja7Zqu53kcA
But did he actually compose any of his pieces himself? Just wondering.
2010-06-12 21:41
SIDWAVE
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All this info is in /HVSC/Documents/STIL.txt
2010-06-12 21:46
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I wouldn't call them covers, but improvements of the quite dull original Synergy pieces.
2010-06-13 10:58
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my thoughts exactly. particularly Shibolet (Master of Magic) benefits from Rob's treatment.
2010-06-14 12:24
SIDWAVE
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and the whole extended melody in Zoids..
2010-06-18 02:51
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damn it, reverb/lords has burnt me twice... always been my favorite ntsc musician, but the 1st time was that wogoowaga surf tune... incredible... turns out it was a steve vai guitar track or something like that... today, researching kraftwerk on youtube i ended up at joy division and then new order. reverb's track on sellout is actually new order's blue monday... starting to wonder what he actually composed himself...
2010-06-24 21:59
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From two years(!) ago:
Quoting JackAsser
Ok, I've got the collection here. It's 403230766 bytes zipped and it's called TOCI - "The Origin of C64 Inspiration".

Someone provide me an FTP and I'll up it immediately.
So, did anyone ever take JackAsser up on his offer?
2010-06-26 16:00
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2010-06-26 23:46
Codey

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What is that, the 1541 soundtrack? Lol...
2010-08-01 21:03
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I think Rob Hubbard was probably 50/50 when it came to original content. The loading music for sanxion being original whilst the title screen wasnt. The in game tune to delta borrowed heavily from philip glass riffs but (I think!) the title tune was original. One track I don't think has been mentioned as a cover is One man & his droid - there is definately a section at the back end of the hubbard track that mimics the saxophone solo from the 1980's pop song "she's a man killer".

2010-08-03 18:13
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- Zoids/Hubbard. Many years later I found the original Synergy tune, was stunned, realised that it was the original, became disappointed of it and also 10x more amazed of Hubbard's awesome rendition. Quite obvious case.

- S-Express/JT. I had no love for that music style back in time so I totally missed the original. Loved JT's rendition, anyway. SID is a great style-indepentiser :) An another obvious case.

- Chameleon(?)/unknown. Back in time it was included in some intro I can't find anymore on old disks and I wasn't too educated about Herbie Hancock so again I was stunned when I heart Herbie's brilliant Chameleon track years later. Scanned Chamelon.SIDs on HVSC but I could not find that exact .sid Maybe, you have some idea...

- Some reverse case, any help is appreciated: Yo/NP. I heard this song in the radio back in the '80s once and never again. It stuck in mind and made a SID of it (not my best moments I must add), but never found out what the original was. For identification, any help is appreciated ;)
2010-08-03 18:18
NecroPolo

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Quote: yeah, Groepaz got the point exactly. its much harder to cover a music, than copy gfx.

One day I may release the tune that I converted using Project One ;D
2010-08-03 18:22
iAN CooG

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/MUSICIANS/P/PRI/Chameleon.sid <- cover of Hancock's song as stated in STIL.
these 2 probably don't match ;D
/MUSICIANS/W/Walker_Martin/Chameleon.sid
/DEMOS/UNKNOWN/Master_Composer/Karma_Chameleon.sid
2010-08-03 18:25
chatGPZ

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Quote:
The in game tune to delta borrowed heavily from philip glass riffs but (I think!) the title tune was original.


the title tune is philip glass :) the ingame tune is heavily based on pink floyds "on the run" (quite a decent interpretation/conversion imho :))
2010-08-03 18:28
NecroPolo

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Quote: /MUSICIANS/P/PRI/Chameleon.sid <- cover of Hancock's song as stated in STIL.
these 2 probably don't match ;D
/MUSICIANS/W/Walker_Martin/Chameleon.sid
/DEMOS/UNKNOWN/Master_Composer/Karma_Chameleon.sid


@iAN:

Yes, I've checked these ones. PRI's rendition is also killer but still not the one from that old intro. Maybe, it's some pre-1992 stuff, considering the numbering/date of my missing disks.
2010-08-03 19:09
iAN CooG

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/DEMOS/G-L/Its_Me_Again_intro.sid
TITLE: Chameleon
ARTIST: Herbie Hancock

/MUSICIANS/B/Blues_Muz/Gallefoss_Glenn/Synthfunk.sid
TITLE: Chameleon
ARTIST: Herbie Hancock

/MUSICIANS/K/Kleinert_Tim/Kleinert_01.sid
TITLE: Chameleon
ARTIST: Herbie Hancock

STIL has no other entry about it, if it's none of these either it's not yet ripped or just not identified.
2010-08-05 14:43
NecroPolo

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Quote: /DEMOS/G-L/Its_Me_Again_intro.sid
TITLE: Chameleon
ARTIST: Herbie Hancock

/MUSICIANS/B/Blues_Muz/Gallefoss_Glenn/Synthfunk.sid
TITLE: Chameleon
ARTIST: Herbie Hancock

/MUSICIANS/K/Kleinert_Tim/Kleinert_01.sid
TITLE: Chameleon
ARTIST: Herbie Hancock

STIL has no other entry about it, if it's none of these either it's not yet ripped or just not identified.


iAN, thanks for the list!

I guess, it must be case #2, not ripped or identified.

For a moment I thought Tim Kleinert's is that but the one that I'm after included a pretty different main lead instrument and other things were changed in the song, going more away from the original Herbie Hancock tune, but still in a good direction. Maybe, it is an another version by Tim that was not spread that much, or someone liked his SID cover and made a tune based on his.

BTW, Glenn's rendition... WOW! :O
2010-08-05 19:29
Carrion

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ian_coog:
chameleon from PRI is muuuuuch beter.
Oh and i realy thought it's PRI's composition untill I've came across Urbanator's (polish acid jazz band) version... later I found out it was from herbie hancock (which in original sounds really lame :P)
2010-08-06 07:48
Angel of Death

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Quoting NecroPolo
- Some reverse case, any help is appreciated: Yo/NP. I heard this song in the radio back in the '80s once and never again. It stuck in mind and made a SID of it (not my best moments I must add), but never found out what the original was. For identification, any help is appreciated ;)


Songtitle you are looking for is "Girls" by the Beastie boys from 1986 album "licensed to ill".
Nice cover, by the way, concerning it is made just from memory. (like the detuned solo-sounds. exactly like the original)

Have some more STIL info that could be put in but i'm just too lazy...
2010-08-06 07:53
Angel of Death

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Quote: ian_coog:
chameleon from PRI is muuuuuch beter.
Oh and i realy thought it's PRI's composition untill I've came across Urbanator's (polish acid jazz band) version... later I found out it was from herbie hancock (which in original sounds really lame :P)


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I totally DISagree with you.
But that's just a matter of taste.
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2010-08-06 12:14
Cresh

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354
"Rosanna" by Toto.
There are at least two sid versions, by Scortia and Johannes Bjerregaard.
2010-08-06 17:29
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
Quote: Quoting NecroPolo
- Some reverse case, any help is appreciated: Yo/NP. I heard this song in the radio back in the '80s once and never again. It stuck in mind and made a SID of it (not my best moments I must add), but never found out what the original was. For identification, any help is appreciated ;)


Songtitle you are looking for is "Girls" by the Beastie boys from 1986 album "licensed to ill".
Nice cover, by the way, concerning it is made just from memory. (like the detuned solo-sounds. exactly like the original)

Have some more STIL info that could be put in but i'm just too lazy...


Thanks, man!!!! :D

I was searching for that one, well, for ages :)

Quite weird thing, I like Beasties, still succesfully missed this album as well as the song, just heard once :)

I'll add this to my STIHL #54 entry.

I go now, found the song on YouTube, I can listen to this song after more then 20 years again :) \o/

Thanks again! :)
2011-01-13 13:24
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 427
Madonna covers from Dane are sweet. I always thought Pick Up The Pieces from PRI was SID original... then heard that funky tune on the radio one day... shocked! ;-)
2011-01-13 22:34
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
JT 42/Jeroen Tel
2011-02-10 11:19
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
I had the same experience with Domino Dancing and Suburbia of Petshop boys... I've first heard them on SID.

There is one thing that I recently discovered, it's Grooving High (by Metal), which is a Cannonball Adderley jazz tune from around the '60s... at least the main phrase comes from there.

I'm thinking about remixing Soldier of Fortune (by Page) one time, but I wonder if it was a pop tune as the melody resembles a singer's vocal very much, and the other parts too sound kinda popular music...

Hermit Software Hungary
2011-02-10 12:49
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Soldier of Fortune is by Deep Purple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_4GVm9adaU
2011-02-10 13:03
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
Quote: Soldier of Fortune is by Deep Purple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_4GVm9adaU

Until today i thought it was an original. Though, it was really outstanding in that heineken demo compared to the other songs. Should've been a hint ;)
2011-02-10 13:12
lemming

Registered: Oct 2009
Posts: 44
I'm really surprised at how people don't know about Deep Purple :) it's like Jarre, every scener has to know it imho

Back to topic; the tune in the final part of New Dimension by Triad (1987). Some years ago I learnt what the original song was but I've forgotten it again.
The SID is a bloody brilliant fat track anyway, like the whole demo actually.

Some 20 years ago I was surprised to find out that parts of International Karate by Rob Hubbard are from Do or Die by Human Leage. (another superb track:)
2011-02-10 15:47
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
Shame on me I didn't listen Deep Purple a lot, however I heard a lot about them, and know Child in Time... I have to listen to more music from this band at last.
Many thanks for the delightment on Soldier of Fortune, I'll check it out.

Hermit Software Hungary
2011-02-12 00:15
Six

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 289
Some originals that I always thought were only SID tunes:

Enola Gay - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szIx2hOiVWs
Koyaanisqatsi - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFnmH9a2RkE

I just heard "Living in Video" for the first time the other night, for years I thought it was just a MOD file made for that Kaktus & Mahoney demo on the Amiga.
2011-02-12 00:24
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
I love Stationary Ark which was remixed and was a music in Synth Sample. However I couldn't find the TV series which was somewhere said to be source for this tune..

Hermit Software Hungary
2011-03-16 08:25
Hermit

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 208
'Zakplus' of Shogoon is an excellent cover of this great Scott Joplin ragtime tune called 'The Easy Winners':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdCBT_VHnUk

2011-03-16 22:26
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1335
Quote: 'Zakplus' of Shogoon is an excellent cover of this great Scott Joplin ragtime tune called 'The Easy Winners':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdCBT_VHnUk



but you didn't think that c64 version was an original, did you? ;)
2011-05-17 21:15
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Haha, I've had this before, too! ;-D Thinking they stole the SID (again?), while it was the other way around...

Straight from the top of my head, the (well, for me) not so obvious ones:
JT42 / Jeroen Tel = Running in the Family by Level 42 (though JT only took the hookline and went from there, doing his own thing- better than the original IMHO! 8)
Soldier of Fortune / Page = Soldier of Fortune by Deep Purple
Some Last Ninja Tune (or IK?) = Traditional chinese folk song (Also covered by Modern Talking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Vg9EvaFv4 )
Delta / Rob Hubbard = Koyaanisqatsi by Philip Glass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFBijDU8PpE (near the end!)
Dutch Breeze Mix-e-load = Canon in D-Minor by Johann Pachelbel
2011-05-17 21:34
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
If u like oriental listen to this one:

at 2:15 all is revealed :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CwiSJh84Do&feature=related[/url]

Steve
2011-05-18 12:00
SIDWAVE
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_of_the_Yao_People
2019-01-30 21:05
Playboy

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 20
This one: Shape
I am 100% sure it's a cover, but I can't remind the original song. Anyone?
2019-01-30 21:28
DRAX

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225
Quote: I had the same experience with Domino Dancing and Suburbia of Petshop boys... I've first heard them on SID.

There is one thing that I recently discovered, it's Grooving High (by Metal), which is a Cannonball Adderley jazz tune from around the '60s... at least the main phrase comes from there.

I'm thinking about remixing Soldier of Fortune (by Page) one time, but I wonder if it was a pop tune as the melody resembles a singer's vocal very much, and the other parts too sound kinda popular music...

Hermit Software Hungary


Actually Metal convered my XM module of the same name. Partially a cover with some improvised Lead from me.
2019-01-31 00:56
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
A few more I got reminded of now that this thread is resurrected...
Moz(Ic)Art - Surrender - cover of Bomb the Bass - Don't Let Me Wait.
JCH - Secret Land - cover of Sandra - Secret Land.
2019-01-31 09:18
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 657
This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFgXGw_kXpc .. the Robocop music. Clearly a cover of the Ariston advert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqHkGX6VrUQ

;-)
2019-01-31 17:19
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186
/me looks at STIL.txt and wonders why we even bother to provide it if no one even tries to have a peek in it...
2019-01-31 17:27
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Does STIL.txt say which sceners thought which covers were original SID tunes?
2019-01-31 18:57
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
If it didnt, wouldnt it be kinda useless?!
2019-01-31 19:45
Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 172
Quote: Does STIL.txt say which sceners thought which covers were original SID tunes?

HAHAHA :'D
2019-02-01 07:46
Grue

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 161
Matt Grays Vendetta #1 is heavily inspired by Jarre's Tokyo kid. Its not mentioned in stil.txt even its very clear :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avcClHlecLo
2019-02-04 21:32
Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 172
Some guy has covered Fort Battle theme from The Last of the Mohicans on the C64.
2019-02-04 23:56
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186
Quote: Matt Grays Vendetta #1 is heavily inspired by Jarre's Tokyo kid. Its not mentioned in stil.txt even its very clear :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avcClHlecLo


"Inspired by" is different from "it's a cover of"
2019-02-05 07:51
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 285
Quote: "Inspired by" is different from "it's a cover of"

It's better to say "Covers the beginning."
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