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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Information should be free
Quoting Managing information in CSDb
2. The information regarding entries belongs to those who the information is about. A person "owns" the information about his scener-profile, and the information of his/hers releases and the groups he/she is/was member of.
3. If any person who "owns" information doesn't want the information in CSDb it is totally their rights to remove it, and should be respected. This means that if you have any doubts that the person who owns the information does not want it in CSDb, you must not add it, and also that this person have the right to delete the information at any time.
To be honest, I was never fully aware of these rules until Baracuda kept throwing them around, and I can't say anything else than that I don't agree with them at all ..
Just remember: the scene is bigger than the people that are (or were) part of it. |
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BAR.
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324 |
In my eyes should an information which was added to an
entry from another user not be deleted also the entry should stay.
But if the owner means that it is wrong,
he should be able of course to delete/edit..
Otherwise the wrong infos will rule..
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1679 |
I agree that rules perhaps should be updated. The rules were created after a lot of problems with copyrighted stuff and personal details. I should perhaps have thought it better through when I wrote that, but back then it made sense that if you "owned" something (copyright, personal data) you had total right over the info. It didn't orcur to me that people would remove their demos and trivial scener info just because they were mad or something.
I basically think that some information is "owned" by the scene itself. Info like who was a member of what when, credits etc. Info like this, which I can't see how should hurt anyone, should be public.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
sounds reasonable.... generally all info should be "public", with the exceptions of:
a) personal details (name, phone, adress, photo etc - ie what is protected by most related laws too)
b) copyrighted downloads (no matter how much _i_ would like to ignore this, you as the responsible hoster can't for obvious reasons)
b raises other questions though, like wether entries of commercial games (not cracks) without a download should be in the database at all. there should also be somekind of explaination on what is considered "copyrighted info" in that respect - because technically most stuff is copyrighted. (this is gonna be hard i guess) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
perff, I believe noone can sue csdb for publishing info thats on the streets anyway. can you sue a newspaper because it says z demo was made by perff ? nonsense. but the rules should stay for private personal info., |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1679 |
Updated the rules a bit. Any comments? |
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The Communist
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 485 |
Good. But I think adding the home country would be no problem also. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
imho the wording is kinda misleading. it makes it sound if "owning" information is the rule, not the exception. it should make clear that ALL info is generally "public property", with the already mentioned exceptions. eg "scener entries" can not be "owned" by an individual, since the contained info is generally "public" - with the only exception beeing the personal data. |
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The Communist
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 485 |
Sounds good. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
oh and it should also make clear that "maintainer" (someone who locked an entry) is different to "owning" information. a maintainer should not have any right whatsoever to remove information, except for the already mentioned "non public" stuff IF it is not related to him. (quite the opposite should be the case - maintainers should be responsible to provide all "public" info about a locked entry) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
What about first names? Removing them will make it more difficult to 'connect' handles to a person. Not sure if having them here can be considered illegal ..
And a hard one is the case where the scener used his real name as handle, like the Panoramic dudes for example .. |
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