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2018-05-12 17:49
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
DeepSID

I have made my own online SID player. It uses Jürgen Wothke's WebSid emulator and can also play digi tunes. You can browse all of HVSC #68 with it.

Check out my blog post for more information:
http://chordian.net/2018/05/12/deepsid/

Direct link:
http://deepsid.chordian.net/
 
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2019-07-24 12:17
gorans

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 14
Works great. Thanks JCH.
2019-07-24 21:55
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
listening to some good old Morbid tunes right now, he can brilliantly capture sad moods.

crazy amount of work in this, I have some suggestions:

- displaying digi channel
- user interface is not intuitive not logical I spent long time getting what/where everything is.

for example replay buffer size is hidden in piano display ? piano display is on a tab within tabs which are infos on the current tune, etc.
2019-07-24 22:37
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
If you drag the scope view larger, there's a fourth box for digi.

The buffer size box is also available in the settings tab (which is the last cog icon tab) and it shares its setting with the ones in the visuals views.
2019-07-25 17:04
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
that doesnt solve the mess.

biggest window should be the browsing window. many folders have hundreds of tunes and I get to view like 6 at one time.

acc / deccelerating scrolling sucks on my slow laptop, just snap it where I scrolled please.

currently played tune title should be highlighted.

piano / oscilloscope view should be in the same window.

there's hardly any contrast on rectangles around different windows, hard to see what belongs where logically.

took min 10 minutes to realize there's a menu on top and I can get back to starting page.

cant change buffer size in cogwheel icon because I should be logged in, but can change on piano tab without logging in.

etc.
2019-07-25 18:53
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
> biggest window should be the browsing window. many folders
> have hundreds of tunes and I get to view like 6 at one time.

I have actually been giving this a lot of thought.

The sundry box (which is the box with the STIL or scope) can be resized by dragging the bar in the bottom, just above the player controls. Furthermore, if DeepSID detects that there is insufficient vertical space upon refreshing or resizing the browser window, it automatically minimizes this sundry box.

On a desktop computer, you can manually toggle the latter with the s hotkey.

> currently played tune title should be highlighted.

The row should be highlighted in the browser list when clicked. Is this not what you mean?

For auto-progressing, you can decide whether the next tune should highlight or not with an option in the settings.

> cant change buffer size in cogwheel icon because I should be
> logged in, but can change on piano tab without logging in.

This is another one I've actually returned to quite often.

The buffer size setting is available in the visuals views because it's directly relevant to how fast they update. Smaller values work much better there. Similarly, the scope view automatically shows a button to change this if it's not at the right setting (it requires the biggest setting).

And since the visuals views are not available on a mobile device and the scope view only works with the maximum setting anyway, this is always the default there and thus should never require adjusting.

DeepSID does require some CPU juice in the computer or device to work well, especially now that the WebSid emulator has been updated to work on a cycle-by-cycle basis recently. It's impossible to ensure that it runs perfectly on all computers. If speed is a problem, I recommend using the SOASC handlers instead of the emulators. They play real MP3/FLAC recordings and require very little CPU time.
2019-07-28 15:11
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
about 1/3 of the screen is empty (right side)

so why not have 3 vertical blocks:

- list of tunes "area for browsing/find tunes"
- osci + piano+ settings - everything regarding playback/visuals
- info about current tune

recommended folders etc. put this into list of tunes, hence logically belonging there.

every function should be put logically into its "area"

and maybe a horizontal section on top for login / menu (looking at it now emulator type select positionally mixed with login, this belongs to playback settings into one logical box)
2019-07-31 11:06
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424
Also, have you thought about combining the piano and graph views somehow?
I've made this many years ago, which might give you some ideas: http://galway.c64.org/~sid/analyzer.png
2019-07-31 11:16
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
Quote: Also, have you thought about combining the piano and graph views somehow?
I've made this many years ago, which might give you some ideas: http://galway.c64.org/~sid/analyzer.png


Wow, that looks nice. I like the idea of showing the frequency line and what whole note it rounds off to.

I once thought of just adding a "waterfall" below the pianos but I'm not sure it would work well there. It would probably have to be a new view, I guess.
2019-07-31 11:19
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
[Types http://galway.c64.org/ to see what that is]

LOL!
2019-07-31 12:01
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 437
@Mr. SID: Wow, does it still run on macOS?
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